Dug a Hedyscepe and stuck in a 15 gallon pot, big drink, in the shade. @happypalms what’s your fave transplant fert? @Harry’s Palms said you had a recommendation.

1 hour ago, DoomsDave said:

Dug a Hedyscepe and stuck in a 15 gallon pot, big drink, in the shade. @happypalms what’s your fave transplant fert? @Harry’s Palms said you had a recommendation.

Seasol or seaweed extract for vitamin b stress relief. Which I think some of world could use some right now!

I sure hope that Hedyscape makes it Dave. A nice shady spot , which you have , some of Richard’s recommended fertilizer , and some of your palmy experience will be beneficial. Harry

Thanks to all for the help and encouragement!

I’m trying to fix the ill-conceived act of planting two Hedyscepes too far from the beach (about 20 miles). They just burn badly here and aren’t a good grow, so I’m going to try to dig and pot and sell them to someone in a suitable climate for them in all their glory.

I would be interested if I were closer to the coast , myself. I’m afraid my place wouldn’t be a positive move. They do well in Ventura . Harry

On 8/17/2026 at 11:49 PM, Harry’s Palms said:

I would be interested if I were closer to the coast , myself. I’m afraid my place wouldn’t be a positive move. They do well in Ventura . Harry

Don’t those Tasmaniacs grow Hedyscepe? @Jonathan and @Tassie_Troy1971

They certainly like cooler climates . I’m afraid I’m a little too far inland , like my friend Dave. It would probably grow but struggle . Harry

These are growing very well , about 5 miles from the coast in Ventura California. Towering over the second story of apartment building where they were planted by the Sullivans. They are on the north side of the building so they got plenty of shade when they were young. When I was first introduced to these palms , they were still well below the building .

Dave I would place in the shade and only use organic fertiliser like fishmeal or seaweed until they re established

Here is an Ai rating of Hedyscepe canterburyana

Hoping ours someday looks like this, grown by you know who in our 8.8 suitability climate.

On 8/22/2026 at 7:55 PM, Tassie_Troy1971 said:

Here is an Ai rating of Hedyscepe canterburyana

Ai - telling us what we already know, removing nuance and spicing it up with a bit of extra BS!

In a long list of dubious human inventions, this one just about takes the cake. Steal our intellectual property, add an algorithm for commercial profit and still get half the facts wrong. Come on humanity, surely we can do better than this dross.

It’s often hot and dry in my coastal valley location in the summer but Hedescepe do exceptionally well despite that. Not sure how AI would rate my area but, as long as the palm is in shade or partial sun and watered often it will be happy.

4 hours ago, Jonathan said:

Ai - telling us what we already know, removing nuance and spicing it up with a bit of extra BS!

In a long list of dubious human inventions, this one just about takes the cake. Steal our intellectual property, add an algorithm for commercial profit and still get half the facts wrong. Come on humanity, surely we can do better than this dross.

Rating Phoenix as anything other than 0.0 suitability for Hedyscepe did make me laugh. I’d have thought San Fran is much more suitable than Sydney too, although of course nature specimens exist in both cities, Hedyscepe can grow basically out in the open unprotected in San Fran from what I’ve seen on thus forum.

Without making this an AI debate, it think it can be a useful tool. There is value in summarising a large amount of data from multiple sources and compiling into concise chunks, even at the expense of some accuracy and nuance. It’s primary strength is certainly not teaching a bunch of palm nuts about the suitability of palms in their climate, but it does take simple intellectual labour tasks and make them drastically more efficient than what a human can achieve, even if you account for any added time that may be required for fact checking. Funnily enough, I think I have to agree with its rating of Melbourne suitability here. I would describe Hedyscepe as being a must grow in Melbourne for palm lovers. In my opinion it’s the most beautiful palm we can grow, but it isn’t without its challenges here. Either full sun and/or lack of supplemental irrigation would spell a quick end for them here in summer.

5 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Rating Phoenix as anything other than 0.0 suitability for Hedyscepe did make me laugh. I’d have thought San Fran is much more suitable than Sydney too, although of course nature specimens exist in both cities, Hedyscepe can grow basically out in the open unprotected in San Fran from what I’ve seen on thus forum.

Without making this an AI debate, it think it can be a useful tool. There is value in summarising a large amount of data from multiple sources and compiling into concise chunks, even at the expense of some accuracy and nuance. It’s primary strength is certainly not teaching a bunch of palm nuts about the suitability of palms in their climate, but it does take simple intellectual labour tasks and make them drastically more efficient than what a human can achieve, even if you account for any added time that may be required for fact checking. Funnily enough, I think I have to agree with its rating of Melbourne suitability here. I would describe Hedyscepe as being a must grow in Melbourne for palm lovers. In my opinion it’s the most beautiful palm we can grow, but it isn’t without its challenges here. Either full sun and/or lack of supplemental irrigation would spell a quick end for them here in summer.

Maybe it's a generational thing Tim, but I like to do things the hard way 😅

As for Hedyscepe...they do like Tasmania!

10 hours ago, Jonathan said:

Ai - telling us what we already know, removing nuance and spicing it up with a bit of extra BS!

In a long list of dubious human inventions, this one just about takes the cake. Steal our intellectual property, add an algorithm for commercial profit and still get half the facts wrong. Come on humanity, surely we can do better than this dross.

This is AI at its finest, to list a palm for sale now they make you use ai on this website. $7.09 cents for a itaya amoricorum. Artificial intelligence at its finest, who is feeding this machine this crap. It cost me that and more for just one seed. Go to living blazes ai.

1 hour ago, Jonathan said:

Maybe it's a generational thing Tim, but I like to do things the hard way 😅

As for Hedyscepe...they do like Tasmania!

I’m actually completely with you and have had the same discussions at work and with members of my family.

The main thing being lost is practicing how to get information ourselves. It’s through the act of research that knowledge sticks in your brain. AI promotes us to quickly get information and then just as quickly forget it. I was initially resistant to using Apple/Google Maps for the same reason; I learnt my way around by using the old book style maps (Melways for us Melbournians). Admittedly I’ve now caved mainly due to no alternative being available, but I’d say my sense of direction and knowledge of our streets is a bit better than your average 20 year old who has grown up using digital maps and just following where they’ve been told to go.

All that being said, I use AI both at work and for personal use, even palm related stuff. The key is just realising its strengths and weaknesses and not just taking the output as gospel.

Photo of Hedyscepe at the Melb Botanic Gardens in our 7.8 rated climate to keep us on track 🤣