Sabal ID’s in Essex, England (51N)

[UK_Palms]

Are these just regular Sabal Minor’s or something else? I don’t think they are Palmetto’s…? I am by no means an expert on Sabal’s whatsoever and they are still pretty rare in cultivation here in the UK, even though all the ones I see here nowadays are thriving.

It is probably the most underplanted genus with the largest potential over here. They are even slower growing here, sure, but they do not get damaged. Nowhere near cold enough. I suspect a lot more will be planted moving forward. These ones were planted years ago now and have quadrupled in size since.

Anyway, what are your thoughts? Minors?

[Chester B]

Definitely not Sabal minor, at first glance I was thinking Louisiana but the boots look like they are arranged fairly neatly so may be palmetto.

[Zone7Bpalmguy]

3 hours ago, UK_Palms said:

Are these just regular Sabal Minor’s or something else? I don’t think they are Palmetto’s…? I am by no means an expert on Sabal’s whatsoever and they are still pretty rare in cultivation here in the UK, even though all the ones I see here nowadays are thriving.

It is probably the most underplanted genus with the largest potential over here. They are even slower growing here, sure, but they do not get damaged. Nowhere near cold enough. I suspect a lot more will be planted moving forward. These ones were planted years ago now and have quadrupled in size since.

Anyway, what are your thoughts? Minors?

The trunk looks very palmetto but I'm not seeing much costapalmate fronds, although that could just be the perspective of the picture and the fact I'm viewing on my phone. I would say definitely not minor but that snapped frond reminds me of what some would say sabal louisiana.

[NC-Key-Bar]

my guess is Sabal minor var. louisiana.  The folded leaves are very common in the palmate/costapalmate hybrids.  Regular minor would take 20 years to get this large, and the trunks would be much thicker with (more) tightly stacked boot jacks.  Louisiana maybe 10?
If the flower stalks were present, someone on here could tell you for sure.

[Zone7Bpalmguy]

@UK_Palms Here's a pic of my sabal palmetto with the curved costapalmate leaf and my sabal louisiana (which was purchased as a sabal Brazoria and still may be) with it's collapsed frond look below 

I don't know why this dumb thing keeps wanting to do duplicates by anyways, you get the picture. Figuratively and literally. 😂 

[NC-Key-Bar]

https://www.plantdelights.com/products/sabal-minor-var-louisiana

i think the one on their product photo was planted in 2011. 

[NC-Key-Bar]

Came across this Sabal today and questioned it. I’m thinking like a xbrazoria or ‘Alabama’?
the fronds seem too small to be this large of a minor. But not sure. Also some damage from the cold, it seems. 
There’s an old flower stalk that comes out just as long as the fronds. Based on Google Maps, it’s about 22-25 years old. 
https://maps.app.goo.gl/2USkge883mKP2TW87

 

 

[ryjohn]

These are Sabal palmetto for sure.  Sabal minor, Louisiana, and Brazoria all grow extremely fast here in Louisiana, but none trunk with boots spaced nearly anywhere that widely.  I see mass plantings of Sabal minor in commercial developments here and inevitably there are a few Sabal palmettos mixed in that look like these.

[Ryan Wonka]

This is a sabal(?) in dublin ireland botanic gardens. It's been here for years already but haven't grown much probably because of the vines surrounding it that leaves out in summer. Anyone can id it?

[Las Palmas Norte]

Sabal horizontali

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[Mazat]

On 2/26/2026 at 12:40 AM, Las Palmas Norte said:

Sabal horizontali

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