Phoenix reclinata - good progress

[SeanK]

€100 to person who gives it a hug.

[Hu Palmeras]

42 minutes ago, SeanK said:

100€ a la persona que le dé un abrazo.

A good man crashed for a few good euros. He'd be left jumping like a cat.

[Hu Palmeras]

On 22/9/2025 at 11:41, Mazat said:

Nuestra Phoenix reclinata crece a un ritmo constante, lento pero seguro.
Esperemos que siga así... ¿
Cómo le va a tu Phoenix reclinata este año?
Esperamos ver tus fotos. 

Beautiful reclining roses. I hope to grow mine like this, especially the finest ones.

 

[Hu Palmeras]

Hace 2 horas, UK_Palms dijo:

En cuanto a la Reclinata de Londres… Todavía no estoy seguro de si esta es una Reclinata. Si no, definitivamente es un híbrido de CIDP con algo como la Reclinata o la Dactylifera debido a su naturaleza aglutinante… 🤔

Las imágenes de Street View tienen 3 años. Darley Road, en el centro de Londres…

 

Vista de la calle en marzo de 2018, justo después de la infame helada de la "Bestia del Este", que muestra claramente un brote lateral prominente. Sospecho que los brotes laterales se han recortado un poco con los años. Me parece una polilla de la descamación de la piel (PIC), pero las PI son solitarias y no producen retoños. 🤔

In England, they have beautiful palm trees. It's a luxury that they have palm trees too, my friend.

[Hu Palmeras]

El 22/9/2025 a las 15:39, gyuseppe dijo:

La mía también, Phoenix reclinata, proviene de rarepalmseeds y ahora mide unos 5 metros de altura.

You should buy the purest variety. Or try it.

[Hu Palmeras]

19 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

Hoy, mientras le tomaba una foto a mi Phoenix reclinata, me di cuenta de que no mide 5 metros de altura, ¡sino quizás 10! Llega hasta el techo de la casa.

Very cool my Friend😎😎😎💪💪💪🦜🌴

[Hu Palmeras]

El 22/9/2025 a las 17:44, Fusca dijo:

La mía es una reclinata híbrida que aún no ha retoñado. Desconozco el donante de polen, pero sospecho que es canariensis. ¿Alguna idea?@Phoenikakias @gyuseppeLas hojas estaban blandas cuando me las regalaron a principios del año pasado, pero desde entonces se han puesto rígidos.

I've never seen such a thick-bodied recumbent tree. A friend has a recumbent tree with a good trunk and shoots.

[Hu Palmeras]

2 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

definitivamente híbrido

Guiusepe, my friend. How do you know it's a hybrid?

[Phoenikakias]

28 minutes ago, Hu Palmeras said:

You should buy the purest variety. Or try it.

There is not such thing as a purest variety. P reclinata extends from west Africa (Senegal) to south-east Africa and Madagascar. Therefore it is quite variable. It is only a matter of availability of the various forms. The big one of mine looks for example very similar to the population growing in Kenya.

[Hu Palmeras]

1 minute ago, Phoenikakias said:

No existe una variedad pura. La P. reclinata se extiende desde África occidental (Senegal) hasta el sudeste de África y Madagascar. Por lo tanto, es bastante variable. Es solo cuestión de disponibilidad de las distintas formas. Mi especie grande, por ejemplo, se parece mucho a la población que crece en Kenia.

Well, it won't be pure, but it will have a more refined trunk and not as leafy.

[Phoenikakias]

2 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

definitely hybrid

Could not but agree!

[gyuseppe]

1 hour ago, Hu Palmeras said:

Guiusepe, my friend. How do you know it's a hybrid?

At the Botanical Garden in Naples, there are many species of phoenix, and there are also many hybrid species. It's a shame that almost all of them are steril(the hybrid)

GIUSEPPE

[gyuseppe]

1 hour ago, Phoenikakias said:

Could not but agree!

my friend Konstantinos you are more expert than me

[Hu Palmeras]

Konstantinos is a great expert. He knows a lot about palm trees, especially the Phoenix.

[Mazat]

On 9/24/2025 at 5:36 PM, Phoenikakias said:

Mazat Palmengenosse, here is my big reclinata, enjoy the pictures.

Konstantinos, what a beauty 🤗

We are impressed.

[Mazat]

22 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

Today, while I was taking a picture of my  Phoenix  reclinata, I noticed that it is not 5 meters high, but maybe 10 meters! It reaches up to the roof of the house.

Also impressive, Gyuseppe 🤗 and so big

[Mazat]

On 9/24/2025 at 5:36 PM, Phoenikakias said:

Mazat Palmengenosse, here is my big reclinata, enjoy the pictures.

They grow really big 

[Mazat]

3 hours ago, SeanK said:

100 € für die Person, die es umarmt.

😁

[Mazat]

20 hours ago, UK_Palms said:

Not a common palm at all, especially here in the UK.

This is the Reclinata at Tremenheere in Cornwall. It has got multiple side shoots making an impenetrable radius. I saw some seeds on it, which may be pollenated by a nearby Sylvestris, or one of their CIDP’s, but I didn’t want to die of blood loss getting them.

 

The nearby Sylvestris…

These have got to be the only reliably documented specimens of either species growing above 45N latitude, although I think there are some in London too. I know the Reclinata’s in the coastal regions of western France died from about -8C back in 2018.

Great pictures, thank you very much 🤗 

We didn't know it was thriving so well with you. It's good that you left it alone, even though it was tempting, right? Health comes first. .

[Phoenikakias]

6 minutes ago, Mazat said:

They grow really big 

Lol this is still a teenager in terms of size. It needs tons of water in the heat, which is sadly impossible in my garden.

[Hu Palmeras]

9 hours ago, Phoenikakias said:

Jaja, todavía es una adolescente en cuanto a tamaño. Necesita mucha agua con el calor, lo cual, lamentablemente, es imposible en mi jardín.

Very cool my Friend😎😎😎🌴🌴🌴

[dalmatiansoap]

Example from Pompeii. I have few seedlings from this tree but I'm afraid they are hybrids with CIDP around 

[Phoenikakias]

3 minutes ago, dalmatiansoap said:

Example from Pompeii. I have few seedlings from this tree but I'm afraid they are hybrids with CIDP around 

Beautiful! Only in my dreams in my super dry garden with less than 200 mm annual precipitation. Italy has a similar climate with Greece, in particular the region around Naples. So it is impossible a natural cross of reclinata with canary according to personal experience. Reclinata blooms in the mid summer while canary blooms in autumn. Roebelenii may have overlapping florition with reclinata and perhaps also rupicola... @gyuseppe your opinion on the matter please!

[dalmatiansoap]

I have 2 planted in ground on different locations. Probably one of slowest varieties I have. Dry locations as you say

[Phoenikakias]

3 minutes ago, dalmatiansoap said:

I have 2 planted in ground on different locations. Probably one of slowest varieties I have. Dry locations as you say

Try mixing in to surrounding soil a water retentive!

[dalmatiansoap]

Here are some of seedlings

[gyuseppe]

3 hours ago, Phoenikakias said:

Beautiful! Only in my dreams in my super dry garden with less than 200 mm annual precipitation. Italy has a similar climate with Greece, in particular the region around Naples. So it is impossible a natural cross of reclinata with canary according to personal experience. Reclinata blooms in the mid summer while canary blooms in autumn. Roebelenii may have overlapping florition with reclinata and perhaps also rupicola... @gyuseppe your opinion on the matter please!

Yes Konstantinos, here at my place they almost always flower together, reclinata and canariensis, all the seeds collected in my area, I am 15 minutes by car from Naples, they are hybrids, and here there is also plenty of water, they grow quickly

[Mazat]

16 hours ago, Phoenikakias said:

Lol this is still a teenager in terms of size. It needs tons of water in the heat, which is sadly impossible in my garden.

Konstantinos, i expressed it incorrectly; we did not anticipate or believe that this species would become or could become so large...

[Mazat]

3 hours ago, dalmatiansoap said:

Example from Pompeii. I have few seedlings from this tree but I'm afraid they are hybrids with CIDP around 

A very wonderful specimen, Ante.
Yes, I can understand that. Let's hope not...

Okay, even then, it's still a magnificent palm tree.

[gyuseppe]

here reclinata flowers in June, July, August here canariensis flowers in July, August and until November

[Mazat]

2 hours ago, dalmatiansoap said:

Here are some of seedlings

Wonderful, Ante. I really like them. Every time, it's a miracle how such beautiful phoenixes grow from such small seeds ...

[Mazat]

 

4 hours ago, dalmatiansoap said:

Example from Pompeii. I have few seedlings from this tree but I'm afraid they are hybrids with CIDP around 

I'm very happy about that. I hope you got a lot of seeds 🤗

[Mazat]

7 minutes ago, gyuseppe said:

here reclinata flowers in June, July, August here canariensis flowers in July, August and until November

CIDP until November, wow, what a great climate you have there.

[Phoenikakias]

41 minutes ago, Mazat said:

CIDP until November, wow, what a great climate you have there.

Lol in Athens they may bloom until end of December

 

[Hu Palmeras]

7 hours ago, dalmatiansoap said:

Ejemplo de Pompeya. Tengo pocas plántulas de este árbol, pero me temo que son híbridos con CIDP. 

Friend, this is a beautiful group of reclining trees. I don't know whether to call it pure or that they look more refined. Those trunks are fine, and their canopy is less dense. I liked them.

[Hu Palmeras]

3 hours ago, Mazat said:

¡Genial, Ante! Me encantan. Cada vez es un milagro cómo crecen fénix tan hermosos de semillas tan pequeñas...

Your Mazat palm tree is very beautiful. It looks well-kept and luxurious. You'll have an excellent palm tree in Switzerland.

[Hu Palmeras]

5 hours ago, dalmatiansoap said:

Aquí se muestran algunas plántulas.

That palm tree looks beautiful. Congratulations!

[Hu Palmeras]

They have beautiful reclinata. Mine are very small and have just sprouted. I'm sprouting the pure variety and also the hybrid. A friend wanted to give me some reclinata offspring, but I didn't want it.

[gyuseppe]

8 hours ago, Phoenikakias said:

Lol in Athens they may bloom until end of December

 

Here it depends on the winters, but they often flower even in December (those few remaining specimens)

[UK_Palms]

17 hours ago, Phoenikakias said:

Beautiful! Only in my dreams in my super dry garden with less than 200 mm annual precipitation. Italy has a similar climate with Greece, in particular the region around Naples. So it is impossible a natural cross of reclinata with canary according to personal experience. Reclinata blooms in the mid summer while canary blooms in autumn. Roebelenii may have overlapping florition with reclinata and perhaps also rupicola... @gyuseppe your opinion on the matter please!

You have less than 7 inches of rain annually near Athens!? Surely not. 🤔

There are places here in England that have only had about 7 inches of rain so far in 2025, although that is likely to go up quite a bit in the subsequent month ahead. It has also been a very dry year here this year. But having 7 inches a year is just madness.

Los Angeles is very dry and they still average 14-15 inches a year. I know Athens is the driest capital city in Europe, but it isn’t that dry. It gets about 430mm / 17 inches annually I thought?