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Happ,

About every other year a big high pressure will settle over Calif. and we can get 2 or 3 weeks of warm weather in Feb or March. It happened up here last year.  We went directly from cold to warm for about 2 weeks. Do you see anything like that happening this year, or is it to far out or hard to predict?

Dick

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(BS, Man about Palms @ Feb. 06 2008,18:13)

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Jack- Is that 5C or 5F ? ???

Same as yesterday, 7C (45F) at my place, frost on the rooftops below.

Bill, I meant 5C.  The low in Burbank was 2C (36F), and I assume that's probably a decent guess for the lowlands below me...

Jack Sayers

East Los Angeles

growing cold tolerant palms halfway between the equator and the arctic circle...

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(elHoagie @ Feb. 07 2008,11:48)

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(BS @ Man about Palms,Feb. 06 2008,18:13)

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Jack- Is that 5C or 5F ? ???

Same as yesterday, 7C (45F) at my place, frost on the rooftops below.

Bill, I meant 5C.  The low in Burbank was 2C (36F), and I assume that's probably a decent guess for the lowlands below me...

Its just not fair, Jack.... :(        :)

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Your right, Dick [it is too early to see a major weather shift

What's remarkable is the radical improvement in the watershed across the West [California/Arizona/New Mexico/Colorado =  above normal w/ heavy wet snow  :P

First day above normal since mid January w/ more to come  :cool:

73F/22.7c [norm: 71F/21.6c

46F/7.7c [norm: 52F/11.1c

Los Angeles/Pasadena

34° 10' N   118° 18' W

Elevation: 910'/278m

January Average Hi/Lo: 69F/50F

July Average Hi/Lo: 88F/66F

Average Rainfall: 19"/48cm

USDA 11/Sunset 23

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?MTW

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Crisp nights and sunny warmish days here the last 3 days, and today even warmer, near 65F. Yesterday the sun was warm enough to heat my rain buckets to a tepid temp. I watered all the plants under the overhang with warm rain water. The rain and a few days of sun have greened all the hills in N. Calif. and the Poppies will be blooming soon. The wild flowers in the West should make a spectacular show this year.

Dick

Richard Douglas

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Yesterday was 22°C  72°F in Fullerton and Anaheim

Climate zone : 8b/9a

January average temperature : 41°F/5°C

July average temperature : 80°F/27°C

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39F here, still 7F below the average low for today. The idea of having an average low sounds like a wonderful dream after the last 3 months.

Zone 9b/10a, Sunset Zone 22

7 miles inland. Elevation 120ft (37m)

Average annual low temp: 30F (-1C)

Average annual rainfall: 8" (20cm)

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10C (50F) for a low this morning after almost 24C (75F) for a high yesterday afternoon.

Jack Sayers

East Los Angeles

growing cold tolerant palms halfway between the equator and the arctic circle...

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hi. im to busy for putting report of temperatures every day of the digital thermometers i have.

but i read in "el mexicano" tijuana newspaper in this week for this winter december 2007 and january 2008  these months are the most cold in tijuana in 30 years.

average temperatures both months of 13C / 55 F

normal is 15C / 59 F

this winter i have most cold night coldest of 6C / 43 F

information is from SMN - servicio meteorlogico naciónal. mexico meterology service.

they also say in the newspaper the cold of december was more worse east of baja california, they have freeze in much of sonora and north part of sinaloa and this kill many plants of tomatos in these states.

TEMP. JAN. 21/10 C (69/50 F), AUG. 29/20 C (84/68 F). COASTAL DESERT, MOST DAYS MILD OR WARM, SUNNY AND DRY. YEARLY PRECIPITATION: 210 MM (8.2 INCHES). ZONE 11 NO FREEZES CLOSE TO THE OCEAN.

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Thanks Cristóbal  :P for the info on Mexico [sinaloa is basically the same latitude as Brownsville & Miami.  Any data on temps?

Temps jumped up a bit today.  I could feel it warming last night as the temp rose thru the night on steady wind

80's forecast for inland regions tomorrow  :cool: FINALLY

82F /27.2c

52F /11.1c

Los Angeles/Pasadena

34° 10' N   118° 18' W

Elevation: 910'/278m

January Average Hi/Lo: 69F/50F

July Average Hi/Lo: 88F/66F

Average Rainfall: 19"/48cm

USDA 11/Sunset 23

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?MTW

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happ its very hard to find good informations with details of weather in mexico. we are developing country not like united states we have many less stations for weather and records is hard to find. mexico's smn has not many details on internet like nws in united states.  i do search for details of weather for december january in this winter for ciudad obregón and hermosillo sonora, guamuchil sinaloa and find nothing i can put here.

these are the princiapals cities in these areas of cultivation of tomatos but there not very big. most the cultivations away from coast in valleys by the mountains for theres water there. on the coast theres little water.

TEMP. JAN. 21/10 C (69/50 F), AUG. 29/20 C (84/68 F). COASTAL DESERT, MOST DAYS MILD OR WARM, SUNNY AND DRY. YEARLY PRECIPITATION: 210 MM (8.2 INCHES). ZONE 11 NO FREEZES CLOSE TO THE OCEAN.

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49F this morning.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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40F, which is psychologically a lot warmer than 39F. Hey, as long as it keeps climbing I'm happy.

Zone 9b/10a, Sunset Zone 22

7 miles inland. Elevation 120ft (37m)

Average annual low temp: 30F (-1C)

Average annual rainfall: 8" (20cm)

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Above mid 40's for past couple days. Me an my palms be happy.  :D

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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38F in Walnut Creek this morning which it has been all week, give or take a degree or two. At least it's been above freezing and no frost the last couple of days.  Yesterday was near 70F and more of the same expected today. The early signs of Spring are showing.

Dick

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53 this morning.  Woooohooooo!

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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46F low here, warming up quickly!  It's a barbecue day!  I love it.

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

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Be careful Matt, at the rate you're gaining you'll be like Florida soon and won't be able to grow Howea's or Jubea's because you are too hot overnite!  :P

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Terry

You live in one of the most diverse micro-climates of California  :P 30's were reported in lower basins along the San Luis Rey riverbed  while minimums in the 60's occurred in nearby foothills [Talega 64F /17.7c Case Springs 63F /17.2c :o Camp Pendleton is riddled w/ weather stations

Lo: 57F /13.8c

Los Angeles/Pasadena

34° 10' N   118° 18' W

Elevation: 910'/278m

January Average Hi/Lo: 69F/50F

July Average Hi/Lo: 88F/66F

Average Rainfall: 19"/48cm

USDA 11/Sunset 23

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?MTW

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It was above 15C (60F) all night last night, except for a dip to 14C (57F) for about 30 mintues around 4AM.  I think tonight will be the first time in a while that it doesn't drop below 15C...

Jack Sayers

East Los Angeles

growing cold tolerant palms halfway between the equator and the arctic circle...

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(elHoagie @ Feb. 09 2008,16:41)

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It was above 15C (60F) all night last night, except for a dip to 14C (57F) for about 30 mintues around 4AM.  I think tonight will be the first time in a while that it doesn't drop below 15C...

Allright Jack, just to make us all feel better, you need to find the COLDEST spot on your property and only give us those readings...... So, you'll have to go waaaayy down that hill... :D

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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(BS @ Man about Palms,Feb. 09 2008,18:00)

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(elHoagie @ Feb. 09 2008,16:41)

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It was above 15C (60F) all night last night, except for a dip to 14C (57F) for about 30 mintues around 4AM.  I think tonight will be the first time in a while that it doesn't drop below 15C...

Allright Jack, just to make us all feel better, you need to find the COLDEST spot on your property and only give us those readings...... So, you'll have to go waaaayy down that hill... :D

Bill,

I think the sensor is in the coldest part of my property.  I have another unofficial sensor down the hill, and the low temperatures down there are usually warmer than up top.  I think the canopy down there is thick enough to make a difference...

I feel bad too, since f-ing Happ is usually warmer than me :laugh:

Jack

Jack Sayers

East Los Angeles

growing cold tolerant palms halfway between the equator and the arctic circle...

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(elHoagie @ Feb. 09 2008,21:31)

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I feel bad too, since f-ing Happ is usually warmer than me :laugh:

Bro, our conditions appear to be near identical [maybe more rain up here?  On the other hand I lust minimums like San Rafael Hills/Sierra Madre etc [never content when it comes to palms  :laugh:

Watered pretty heavy today & will feed tomorrow [first fertilization since last autumn

Quite warm in the most favored locations [unbelievable 91F /32.7 in Whittier :P & approaching 90F Woodland Hills/Beverly Hills/Winnetka/Malibu Canyon

Looks nice all week [but "inside slider"/interior storm may drop the temps for a few days

84F /28.8c

Los Angeles/Pasadena

34° 10' N   118° 18' W

Elevation: 910'/278m

January Average Hi/Lo: 69F/50F

July Average Hi/Lo: 88F/66F

Average Rainfall: 19"/48cm

USDA 11/Sunset 23

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?MTW

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(happ @ Feb. 09 2008,09:02)

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Terry

You live in one of the most diverse micro-climates of California  :

42F this morn'

Happ - I whine about my microclimate a lot, but I also look at it as a challenge to conquer. Successes will mean even more. I think I might be getting more Summer warmth than my neighbors, which helps with royals and other palms.

Zone 9b/10a, Sunset Zone 22

7 miles inland. Elevation 120ft (37m)

Average annual low temp: 30F (-1C)

Average annual rainfall: 8" (20cm)

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Just like last night it was above 15C (60F) all night, except for a little blip down to 14C (57F) around 2AM...

Jack Sayers

East Los Angeles

growing cold tolerant palms halfway between the equator and the arctic circle...

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I was at 44F this morn.  I'm gonna get a halogen light near my temp guage so I don't feel left out.  :P

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Hmmm...   I was 46.6F last night (8.11 for you C folks).  Lie down,see what tomorrow brings...

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

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55F this mornings low.  Nice and toasty....if you like cold toast.  My high today was 80.1F with a refreshing onshore breeze.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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It appears the "sometimes" high pressure we get over Calif. in Feb or March is asserting its self. This past week in N. Calif. has been mild with mid 60's to low 70's and night lows around 40F. It looks like more of the same for the coming week. My low this morning is 42F, and near 70F today for a high. Perfect weather to work in the garden, but I'm not fooling myself, as we will probably have some more cold weather before Spring gets here.

Dick

Richard Douglas

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Yes, Dick, it looks like a nice week ahead - dry & sunny  :D storm track is north & east of California.  Watched a bit of the Pebble Beach golf classic & noticed how balmy it was in Monterey over the weekend.

Today should be the 4th day in a row with above 80F /26.6c maximums

Lo: 57F /13.8c [yesterday morning: 58F /14.4c - normal: 52F /11.1c

Los Angeles/Pasadena

34° 10' N   118° 18' W

Elevation: 910'/278m

January Average Hi/Lo: 69F/50F

July Average Hi/Lo: 88F/66F

Average Rainfall: 19"/48cm

USDA 11/Sunset 23

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?MTW

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52F this morning.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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80+F would make me crazy here, but 70F beats the hell out of what we had before this week. I'll take what I can get. Feels like spring anyway.

Dick

Richard Douglas

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52F again this morning.  80F or warmer that last three days.  This is great.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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This weekend was awesome.... 70s to 80 all three days... got out and cleaned up, weeded, planted some bamboo clumps so that the neighbor's new balcony will be covered up in <2 years...

Even moved my soon to croak potted cocos and adonidia outside for a few days.... (I'm just not capable of keeping palms alive in the house  :(   )

Dave

 

Riverside, CA Z 9b

1700 ft. elevation

approx 40 miles inland

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13C (56F) the past two mornings...

Jack Sayers

East Los Angeles

growing cold tolerant palms halfway between the equator and the arctic circle...

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Cool down tomorrow into Thursday as a storm system moves into Arizona & kicks-up wind across California.  Nice weekend will follow  :D

LA: 84F /28.8c

     58F /14.4c

Los Angeles/Pasadena

34° 10' N   118° 18' W

Elevation: 910'/278m

January Average Hi/Lo: 69F/50F

July Average Hi/Lo: 88F/66F

Average Rainfall: 19"/48cm

USDA 11/Sunset 23

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?MTW

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Granada Hills had 84F/ 52F today. Palms are super happy... and so am I :D

Matt - The seedlings are beginning to put out new shoots! (I guess they're still too small to say spears). This is a real wow moment for me!

Scott

San Fernando Valley, California

Sunset Climate Zone 18

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That's great news Scott!  Your a proud papa. :D

49.9F this morning, piece of cake.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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49F and foggy this morning

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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What a difference a day can make with a drop of 21 degrees F from yesterday's maximum [strong onshore flow of coastal clouds limited sunshine].

Clouds, of-course, will keep night temps up [tomorrow may be similar to today but strong winds will eventually push the clouds out & warm-up temps into the weekend  :D

63F /17.2c

52F /11.1c

Los Angeles/Pasadena

34° 10' N   118° 18' W

Elevation: 910'/278m

January Average Hi/Lo: 69F/50F

July Average Hi/Lo: 88F/66F

Average Rainfall: 19"/48cm

USDA 11/Sunset 23

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?MTW

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