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Borassodendron machodonis starting to look a bit better.

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happypalms Grand Master

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Planted this one as a bare rooted mail order. From what I read get them in the ground asap and don’t worry about container growing. The original leaves from tropical growth have taken a bit of a hard time but the new growth is substantially healthier. Another 5 years and I will have a nice palm I hope, having survived one winter there is hope for this species to live in my climate. 

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Harry’s Palms Grand Master

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There’s hope for that one. Looking good . Harry

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Jonathan Haycock Experienced

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Mine did not like wind that’s for sure!!! Leaves just kept getting shredded, but starting to come good now it is more sheltered and enjoys regular irrigation.

For those of you that frequent Facebook, I’ve set up a group called “Pommy palms”, where many of the palms I’ve seen since emigrating to Australia have been documented. If you wish to be a member, copy and paste “Pommy palms” into Facebook to view the page and click “Join group”.

happypalms Grand Master

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9 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

There’s hope for that one. Looking good . Harry

I hope so such a nice palm.

Ricgard 

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happypalms Grand Master

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55 minutes ago, Jonathan Haycock said:

Mine did not like wind that’s for sure!!! Leaves just kept getting shredded, but starting to come good now it is more sheltered and enjoys regular irrigation.

They love a drink, but that’s Australian culture drinking. I got mine in a protected spot so the leave’s getting shredded should not be a problem, the problem I will have is keeping the water up to it. The gum trees drink all the water the sods. 

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Jadd Correia Experienced

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Feeling inspired by happypalms! So I plugged my small Borassodendron machadonis into the ground today! Good luck little dude!!

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This species does well for me here in the Palm Springs area. I have one in the ground and one still in a one-gallon container, both sheltering under a Talipariti tiliaceum (Tropical Beach Hibiscus) for a little summer and winter cover (but in an otherwise south-facing position here to gather maximum winter warmth). Neither have complained over the last couple of years since I put them there. Somewhat slow while young but certainly faster than, say, Syagrus amara or Syagrus botryophora, both of which are truly a test of human patience in their youth here...and my Borassodendron have seen from about 32F to 124F.

I have a feeling this species might only thrive with a shorter winter, so not confident it would be an easy grow in the coastal plain or inland valleys of SoCal, or other cool climates with a grey-sky winter extension called "spring"...but hopefully Jadd will prove that idea wrong in Oakland. I personally would be afraid to put it in a winter-shade position (north-facing here and south-facing for you Southern Hemisphere folks). Hopefully it makes it for you in NSW. This is one of my all-time favorite palms...I love that chunky, prehistoric look. But once it has any size, one has to be very careful touching those petioles, they are like razor blades!!

Michael Norell

Rancho Mirage, California | 33°44' N 116°25' W | 287 ft | z10a | avg Jan 43/70F | Jul 78/108F avg | Weather Station KCARANCH310

previously Big Pine Key, Florida | 24°40' N 81°21' W | 4.5 ft. | z12a | Calcareous substrate | avg annual min. approx 52F | avg Jan 65/75F | Jul 83/90 | extreme min approx 41F

previously Natchez, Mississippi | 31°33' N 91°24' W | 220 ft.| z9a | Downtown/river-adjacent | Loess substrate | avg annual min. 23F | Jan 43/61F | Jul 73/93F | extreme min 2.5F (1899); previously Los Angeles, California (multiple locations)

happypalms Grand Master

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5 hours ago, Jadd Correia said:

Feeling inspired by happypalms! So I plugged my small Borassodendron machadonis into the ground today! Good luck little dude!!

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Good stuff they need there permanent position from day one apparently. Keep the water up to it. 

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10 minutes ago, mnorell said:

This species does well for me here in the Palm Springs area. I have one in the ground and one still in a one-gallon container, both sheltering under a Talipariti tiliaceum (Tropical Beach Hibiscus) for a little summer and winter cover (but in an otherwise south-facing position here to gather maximum winter warmth). Neither have complained over the last couple of years since I put them there. Somewhat slow while young but certainly faster than, say, Syagrus amara or Syagrus botryophora, both of which are truly a test of human patience in their youth here...and my Borassodendron have seen from about 32F to 124F.

I have a feeling this species might only thrive with a shorter winter, so not confident it would be an easy grow in the coastal plain or inland valleys of SoCal, or other cool climates with a grey-sky winter extension called "spring"...but hopefully Jadd will prove that idea wrong in Oakland. I personally would be afraid to put it in a winter-shade position (north-facing here and south-facing for you Southern Hemisphere folks). Hopefully it makes it for you in NSW. This is one of my all-time favorite palms...I love that chunky, prehistoric look. But once it has any size, one has to be very careful touching those petioles, they are like razor blades!!

We can only try. It’s surprising what will live in cool climates, some growers with the same winter temperatures can succeed while others fail with identical varieties. Cold wet is the killer, cold yes they will live but cold wet a different story. Time will tell if my live but it’s looking good so far. 

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1 hour ago, happypalms said:

We can only try. It’s surprising what will live in cool climates, some growers with the same winter temperatures can succeed while others fail with identical varieties. Cold wet is the killer, cold yes they will live but cold wet a different story. Time will tell if my live but it’s looking good so far. 

I agree, there are so many factors that come into play. I have very sandy soil here (on granitic alluvium) so my problems are usually with being able to hold water in the soil during the hot season for many plants, and I have to do a lot of structural amending to minimize that issue...but I do think that the sandy soil does really help in the colder season with the marginal stuff like Cocos, Adonidia, and maybe the Borassodendron as well, just because it sheds any chilled water from the root-zone during the winter, plus I really reduce the irrigation to almost nothing during those colder months.

Michael Norell

Rancho Mirage, California | 33°44' N 116°25' W | 287 ft | z10a | avg Jan 43/70F | Jul 78/108F avg | Weather Station KCARANCH310

previously Big Pine Key, Florida | 24°40' N 81°21' W | 4.5 ft. | z12a | Calcareous substrate | avg annual min. approx 52F | avg Jan 65/75F | Jul 83/90 | extreme min approx 41F

previously Natchez, Mississippi | 31°33' N 91°24' W | 220 ft.| z9a | Downtown/river-adjacent | Loess substrate | avg annual min. 23F | Jan 43/61F | Jul 73/93F | extreme min 2.5F (1899); previously Los Angeles, California (multiple locations)

happypalms Grand Master

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1 hour ago, mnorell said:

I agree, there are so many factors that come into play. I have very sandy soil here (on granitic alluvium) so my problems are usually with being able to hold water in the soil during the hot season for many plants, and I have to do a lot of structural amending to minimize that issue...but I do think that the sandy soil does really help in the colder season with the marginal stuff like Cocos, Adonidia, and maybe the Borassodendron as well, just because it sheds any chilled water from the root-zone during the winter, plus I really reduce the irrigation to almost nothing during those colder months.

 

1 hour ago, mnorell said:

I agree, there are so many factors that come into play. I have very sandy soil here (on granitic alluvium) so my problems are usually with being able to hold water in the soil during the hot season for many plants, and I have to do a lot of structural amending to minimize that issue...but I do think that the sandy soil does really help in the colder season with the marginal stuff like Cocos, Adonidia, and maybe the Borassodendron as well, just because it sheds any chilled water from the root-zone during the winter, plus I really reduce the irrigation to almost nothing during those colder months.

I got plenty of black sandy soil derived from sandstone and organic matter. Sandy soil heats up quicker in winter, has unlimited drainage sometimes too much at the moisture content loss in summer. It does tend to lack certain nutrients. The amount rock I have in my soil is amazing huge rocks the size of cars and whole rock shelves in the higher part of my block. But I would not swap it for anything else, it gives me that unique microclimate that you all see in what I can grow in a subtropical climate. Yes and in winter I back of the irrigation especially in the container growing department. 

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Something to look forward to Richard - here a mature one at Gardens by the Bay. IMG_5982.thumb.jpeg.18105a0dd92755f7a633ab6aa4730eb5.jpeg

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13 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Something to look forward to Richard - here a mature one at Gardens by the Bay. IMG_5982.thumb.jpeg.18105a0dd92755f7a633ab6aa4730eb5.jpeg

Lucky bloke running of to Singapore and looking at all those lovely palms. Keep em coming. 

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