Polar Vortex Jan 2025 - Are you preparing your palms?

[Xenon]

27 minutes ago, Chester B said:

It better stay this way, I don't want to drag everything back into the garage.  

I'm so demoralized by the last few years my first purchases this year are a nectarine and a plum.  At least I know they won't be killed by the winters, but who knows about the summers??

All 10 of my unprotected citrus trees are alive and most of them are putting on a huge flush of new growth. I've got satsumas, mandarin, pummelo, oranges, etc. Imo citrus is still the way to go here. Some of the ultra low chill peaches are ok. I'm not going to post 20 citrus pictures here but here are a few highlights: (you can see some queens that finally crisped up in these pics too, centers are all green and pushing)

Orange Frost satsuma zero damage zero leaf drop with massive new growth flush

Cara Cara navel, only the newest flush from Nov-Dec died. Minimal leaf drop and now massive new growth flush

Moro blood orange, 50% leaf drop but almost no dieback. Growth is flushing from the tips

 

[thyerr01]

I'm shocked at the difference in citrus performance between Katy and Meyerland/Bellaire. My grafted Calamondin is going to lose 90% of its branches. Only a handful right above the graft have remained green and are resprouting.

[Xenon]

3 hours ago, thyerr01 said:

 

Only a handful right above the graft have remained green and are resprouting.

 

Sorry to hear but that's all you need! Citrus recover really fast. Hopefully no more below average winters one after another

[MarcusH]

15 hours ago, Chester B said:

It better stay this way, I don't want to drag everything back into the garage.  

I'm so demoralized by the last few years my first purchases this year are a nectarine and a plum.  At least I know they won't be killed by the winters, but who knows about the summers??

My friend, don't be discouraged but I tell you one thing . There more plants you have the more to worry about it.  Where you and I live it's not as tropical as you think.  It used to be for a long time but the reality is different now . Colder , more extreme winters and hotter drier summers is the future in Texas for now. For how long?  I don't know,  nobody knows but get mentally prepared for what I said. Adjust your plantings to more palms and plants that can deal with it better.  Always keep in mind that the zone rating is worth nothing . You're in 9b but occasionally it gets down to 8b. 8a is even possible too if you look at climate data ( 80s & 2021) . Just know what's possible in Texas then you're good to go. 

[Chester B]

@Xenon your citrus look pretty darn good. Mine have been nuked. 
Cara Cara has had the top completely killed. It looks like perhaps new growth near the base but it could be below the graft. 
Meyer lemon is defoliated and branches are starting to brown off. 
Silverhill satsuma defoliated but has no dieback and has new leaves developing. 
 

@MarcusH part of the problem is that I am growing plants rated below zone 9 but they’re being killed because they’re young and not fully established.  So we have hot weather and everything is still awake and then extreme cold. They’re not quite hardened off so that further complicates things.  With the long growing season all I need is one average winter and I wouldn’t have the losses that I am seeing this year.  The majority of my palms are zone 8 but due to the lack of commercial availability I’ve grown them all from seed or seedlings so it’s going to take time to have palms that I can walk under. The garden will get to where I want it to be eventually. When you come from a fairly mature garden to starting over it’s difficult. 

[Xenon]

34 minutes ago, Chester B said:

@Xenon your citrus look pretty darn good. Mine have been nuked. 
Cara Cara has had the top completely killed. It looks like perhaps new growth near the base but it could be below the graft. 
Meyer lemon is defoliated and branches are starting to brown off. 
Silverhill satsuma defoliated but has no dieback and has new leaves developing. 

Hopefully your citrus make a speedy recovery. Loquats (even random seedlings but there are tons of named varieties too) are also delicious and way underapreciated. Persimmons also do really well here, I like the astringent varieties when they're fully ripe (like eating honey jello).  Lots of jujube varieties thrive too but can be a bit invasive. 

[ahosey01]

2 hours ago, Chester B said:

@Xenon your citrus look pretty darn good. Mine have been nuked. 
Cara Cara has had the top completely killed. It looks like perhaps new growth near the base but it could be below the graft. 
Meyer lemon is defoliated and branches are starting to brown off. 
Silverhill satsuma defoliated but has no dieback and has new leaves developing. 
 

@MarcusH part of the problem is that I am growing plants rated below zone 9 but they’re being killed because they’re young and not fully established.  So we have hot weather and everything is still awake and then extreme cold. They’re not quite hardened off so that further complicates things.  With the long growing season all I need is one average winter and I wouldn’t have the losses that I am seeing this year.  The majority of my palms are zone 8 but due to the lack of commercial availability I’ve grown them all from seed or seedlings so it’s going to take time to have palms that I can walk under. The garden will get to where I want it to be eventually. When you come from a fairly mature garden to starting over it’s difficult. 

Keep in mind the cold swings in Texas are so wild that I believe this is one of the few places in the world where a fair portion of the native dicots will freeze to the ground in the big, significant freezes.  There are documented reports in '89 of big Leucaena pulvirulenta, Cordia boisseri and Solanum erianthum freezing right to the ground.  Come to think of it I'm pretty sure Solanum erianthum even froze to the ground in 21.

I get around this buy buying as big as I can when it comes to tender stuff.  And also living in Brownsville, where even a few Hyophorbe survived '21 lol.

[Robert Cade Ross]

9 minutes ago, ahosey01 said:

Keep in mind the cold swings in Texas are so wild that I believe this is one of the few places in the world where a fair portion of the native dicots will freeze to the ground in the big, significant freezes.  There are documented reports in '89 of big Leucaena pulvirulenta, Cordia boisseri and Solanum erianthum freezing right to the ground.  Come to think of it I'm pretty sure Solanum erianthum even froze to the ground in 21.

I get around this buy buying as big as I can when it comes to tender stuff.  And also living in Brownsville, where even a few Hyophorbe survived '21 lol.

I’m pretty sure the Live  oak trees were even damaged in north west Texas during the 2021 freeze . 😶‍🌫️

[Robert Cade Ross]

2 hours ago, Chester B said:

@Xenon your citrus look pretty darn good. Mine have been nuked. 
Cara Cara has had the top completely killed. It looks like perhaps new growth near the base but it could be below the graft. 
Meyer lemon is defoliated and branches are starting to brown off. 
Silverhill satsuma defoliated but has no dieback and has new leaves developing. 
 

@MarcusH part of the problem is that I am growing plants rated below zone 9 but they’re being killed because they’re young and not fully established.  So we have hot weather and everything is still awake and then extreme cold. They’re not quite hardened off so that further complicates things.  With the long growing season all I need is one average winter and I wouldn’t have the losses that I am seeing this year.  The majority of my palms are zone 8 but due to the lack of commercial availability I’ve grown them all from seed or seedlings so it’s going to take time to have palms that I can walk under. The garden will get to where I want it to be eventually. When you come from a fairly mature garden to starting over it’s difficult. 

I picked up a Cara Cara yesterday and a replacement Owari satsuma since I lost the other one back in 2024 due to a heater malfunction :c . 

[thyerr01]

Given the current citrus discussion. Has anyone seen a Parson Brown Orange available in the Houston area? That seem to be one of the hardiest 'true' oranges.

[Robbertico18]

Still no new growth from the arctic frost Satsuma, hopefully I can fertilize after this cold front

[MarcusH]

2 hours ago, Chester B said:

@Xenon your citrus look pretty darn good. Mine have been nuked. 
Cara Cara has had the top completely killed. It looks like perhaps new growth near the base but it could be below the graft. 
Meyer lemon is defoliated and branches are starting to brown off. 
Silverhill satsuma defoliated but has no dieback and has new leaves developing. 
 

@MarcusH part of the problem is that I am growing plants rated below zone 9 but they’re being killed because they’re young and not fully established.  So we have hot weather and everything is still awake and then extreme cold. They’re not quite hardened off so that further complicates things.  With the long growing season all I need is one average winter and I wouldn’t have the losses that I am seeing this year.  The majority of my palms are zone 8 but due to the lack of commercial availability I’ve grown them all from seed or seedlings so it’s going to take time to have palms that I can walk under. The garden will get to where I want it to be eventually. When you come from a fairly mature garden to starting over it’s difficult. 

I understand and eventually that time comes we just don't know when .  You and I aren't going to manipulate the weather.  All I can say is "It is what it is" . I'm not happy about but we have to move on.  Every year the same game. How cold is it going to get?  Texas can drive you crazy lol.  You'll get there .  Be patient. 

[ahosey01]

3 hours ago, Chester B said:

@Xenon your citrus look pretty darn good. Mine have been nuked. 
Cara Cara has had the top completely killed. It looks like perhaps new growth near the base but it could be below the graft. 
Meyer lemon is defoliated and branches are starting to brown off. 
Silverhill satsuma defoliated but has no dieback and has new leaves developing. 
 

@MarcusH part of the problem is that I am growing plants rated below zone 9 but they’re being killed because they’re young and not fully established.  So we have hot weather and everything is still awake and then extreme cold. They’re not quite hardened off so that further complicates things.  With the long growing season all I need is one average winter and I wouldn’t have the losses that I am seeing this year.  The majority of my palms are zone 8 but due to the lack of commercial availability I’ve grown them all from seed or seedlings so it’s going to take time to have palms that I can walk under. The garden will get to where I want it to be eventually. When you come from a fairly mature garden to starting over it’s difficult. 

Would also add that in Texas, this is the advantage of choosing tender species that are suckering (i.e. some of the more unusual Arengas, or even Caryota mitis if you're in Galveston).  Then, even if stuff dies to the roots if the worst freezes, they'll generally come back in full force shortly after.

[Xenon]

2 hours ago, thyerr01 said:

Given the current citrus discussion. Has anyone seen a Parson Brown Orange available in the Houston area? That seem to be one of the hardiest 'true' oranges.

Seriously I think we should all stop chasing "most cold hardy orange etc", the difference between them all is negligible and that has been proven several times in various freezes like 2018, 2021, etc. I've never seen Parson Brown described as anything other a mid-quality early season very seedy orange. It does have a few unique attributes like very upright columnar growth habit and HLB tolerance (but that's not a big concern in TX). 

People will sing the praises for the "ultra cold-hardy Republic of Texas" with some romanticized story about it being descended from a 80s survivor tree. The reality is that it's a seedy so-so orange for fresh eating but makes great juice. 

Just pick the orange that YOU personally enjoy and that fits your growing situation and expectations. my 0.02

This is the general consensus for Houston oranges currently available for legal purchase from Saxon and/or Brazos:

Best orange for fresh consumption: any of the navels like Washington or N-33 will ripen in December; Cara Cara has a unique floral flavor with lower acid also ripens December; Marrs is early ripening (Oct-Nov) and has that sweet "Texas orange" flavor 

Best orange for juice: Republic of Texas; also consider Orlando tangelo and Page mandarin (all of these would be ready Nov-Dec); Valencia is the gold standard but is not fully ripe until Jan-Feb

Best blood orange: Moro has the best color and ripens in January; Tarocco is probably the best tasting but ripens February

 

 

[ahosey01]

26 minutes ago, Xenon said:

Seriously I think we should all stop chasing "most cold hardy orange etc", the difference between them all is negligible and that has been proven several times in various freezes like 2018, 2021, etc. I've never seen Parson Brown described as anything other a mid-quality early season very seedy orange. It does have a few unique attributes like very upright columnar growth habit and HLB tolerance (but that's not a big concern in TX). 

People will sing the praises for the "ultra cold-hardy Republic of Texas" with some romanticized story about it being descended from a 80s survivor tree. The reality is that it's a seedy so-so orange for fresh eating but makes great juice. 

Just pick the orange that YOU personally enjoy and that fits your growing situation and expectations. my 0.02

This is the general consensus for Houston oranges currently available for legal purchase from Saxon and/or Brazos:

Best orange for fresh consumption: any of the navels like Washington or N-33 will ripen in December; Cara Cara has a unique floral flavor with lower acid also ripens December; Marrs is early ripening (Oct-Nov) and has that sweet "Texas orange" flavor 

Best orange for juice: Republic of Texas; also consider Orlando tangelo and Page mandarin (all of these would be ready Nov-Dec); Valencia is the gold standard but is not fully ripe until Jan-Feb

Best blood orange: Moro has the best color and ripens in January; Tarocco is probably the best tasting but ripens February

 

 

In fairness there are actually some citrus species that do better than others in the freezes, but to your point this is like kumquat vs. citron and is not like "variety A orange" vs "variety B" orange.

[amh]

If you want cold hardy citrus.

Step 1: Collect seeds from fruit.

Step 2: Germinate said seeds.

Step 3: Grow the seedlings in pots until they reach about 3 feet tall and plant them in the ground in the spring time.

Step 4: Water and fertilize the plants throughout the growing season.

Step 5: Let winter do its thing.

Whatever plants survive are cold hardy and are growing on their own roots. Congratulations, you haven't wasted $50+ on a low quality, "legal", cold hardy citrus that might survive another year.

[thyerr01]

I view this a little differently, but I certainly agree that we shouldn't base things off anecdotes.

I'm just interested if there are any other heirloom citrus from the gulf south present in the Harris/Montgomery/Brazoria/Fort Bend quarantine zone. If there are, I would like to see them properly evaluated for hardiness. I would value a hardy orange I could grow even if the fruit quality wasn't perfect.

For palms and really anything else, I'm all for finding local survivors and trying to establish new lines from seed. Most citrus won't come true from seed though, so there's more uncertainty in that route and they also tend to take a long time to fruit. That wont stop me trying from my Yuzu seeds this year - although I think they do grow true.

[amh]

Changsha and murcott tangerines growing on their own roots are very hardy.

Those of you in the Houston area may want to look into https://www.panzarellacitrus.com/

[Chester B]

6 hours ago, Xenon said:

Hopefully your citrus make a speedy recovery. Loquats (even random seedlings but there are tons of named varieties too) are also delicious and way underapreciated. Persimmons also do really well here, I like the astringent varieties when they're fully ripe (like eating honey jello).  Lots of jujube varieties thrive too but can be a bit invasive. 

I do have a "Gold Nugget" Loquat which obviously was fine during the cold.  I do plan on adding another but locally it seems like all you can buy are unnamed or Gold Nugget.  I'll probably place an order with One Green World which used to be 10 minutes from my house.

And yes I am going to add a Persimmon, but I like the the non astringent Japanese types.  I made some cookies one year for Christmas from a Fuyu I had.  They were really good.

4 hours ago, thyerr01 said:

Given the current citrus discussion. Has anyone seen a Parson Brown Orange available in the Houston area? That seem to be one of the hardiest 'true' oranges.

I think I saw them at JRN Nursery last year.

 

4 hours ago, ahosey01 said:

I get around this buy buying as big as I can when it comes to tender stuff.  And also living in Brownsville, where even a few Hyophorbe survived '21 lol.

Always a good decision if you can find what you're looking for.  Plus I'm not shipping big palms from CA, I don't have that kind of money to burn.

[Xenon]

All of the yuzus died in the 2021 freeze along with the oranges, tangelos, mandarins, grapefruits, and pummelos of any and every e variety planted in the 90s. So I'm going go to plant exactly what I want to eat 😝. What are you really going to do with a big yuzu tree? 

[thyerr01]

@Xenon Make Yuzu Kosho!

I think we just want different things - and I do grow most of the citrus I want. Yuzu, Ujukitsu, mystery citrus for margaritas, and a whole lot of Zanthoxylum fagara. I'd love a Buddha's hand, but I don't want to deal with moving large pots around.

[ahosey01]

25 minutes ago, Xenon said:

All of the yuzus died in the 2021 freeze along with the oranges, tangelos, mandarins, grapefruits, and pummelos of any and every e variety planted in the 90s. So I'm going go to plant exactly what I want to eat 😝. What are you really going to do with a big yuzu tree? 

Climb higher every year to get fruit lol

[Chester B]

1 hour ago, Xenon said:

All of the yuzus died in the 2021 freeze along with the oranges, tangelos, mandarins, grapefruits, and pummelos of any and every e variety planted in the 90s. So I'm going go to plant exactly what I want to eat 😝. What are you really going to do with a big yuzu tree? 

I'm really surprised.  I grew Yuzu for years and they are tough.

[Xenon]

23 minutes ago, Chester B said:

I'm really surprised.  I grew Yuzu for years and they are tough.

I have seen all sweet citrus be tough in this climate, even the supposedly tender punmelos. Hyper fixating on the "hardiest" sweet citrus is not the right approach imo. Only the limes, citron, and most lemons (Meyer is OK) are actually "tender". 

There used to be a u-pick pummelo orchard in North Houston complete with hammocks between the trees and all. This vid was taken in 2020

https://youtu.be/6GhFoky25nc?si=dHDRGmUmF9uyBWZw

 

[UK_Palms]

It doesn’t look like the freeze will hit as bad in Dallas now. Still I would expect them to see about 72 hours below freezing, possibly, and also one night down to -10C / 15F.

 

NYC still looking pretty cold. I have to go back 7 years to February 2018 for the last time I had any temperatures even close to this bad in the 2nd half of winter. If that guy’s CIDP in NYC pulls through this winter, I will be amazed.

[JeskiM]

On 2/16/2025 at 2:03 PM, Robert Cade Ross said:

I’m pretty sure the Live  oak trees were even damaged in north west Texas during the 2021 freeze . 😶‍🌫️

I had damage to several large Live Oaks (Q, fusiformis) at my house 25 miles North of Austin.  The bark split and cut several inches deep on the north sides of the trees from about 2 to 10 feet above the ground. 

I wonder how far north one had to go find dead ones ?  Southern OK ?  TX Panhandle ? ... I've seen small to medium sized ones in those areas but last time I would have got a close look was prior to 2021.   

The furthest north on that I can recall of a medium size (20 foot tall) one was at the entrance of a hotel that I stayed at in Lubbock.  It was on the north side of the building, so open from that direction. I'll be back up there in a few months, but don't know if I will have a chance to check it out.

-Matt

[ahosey01]

On 2/16/2025 at 8:39 PM, Xenon said:

I have seen all sweet citrus be tough in this climate, even the supposedly tender punmelos. Hyper fixating on the "hardiest" sweet citrus is not the right approach imo. Only the limes, citron, and most lemons (Meyer is OK) are actually "tender". 

There used to be a u-pick pummelo orchard in North Houston complete with hammocks between the trees and all. This vid was taken in 2020

https://youtu.be/6GhFoky25nc?si=dHDRGmUmF9uyBWZw

 

This is interestingly similar to the North Florida citrus groves in the 1890s.  There are photos of groves north of Orlando with trees 3ft thick at the base.

Then 1894 (I think) came and smoked all of them and Henry Flagler was motivated to build his railroad to the south of the state.  Most of the people that planted those hadn't been in Florida in 1835, otherwise they would have known of the fact they could be playing with fire.

[Matthew92]

Crazy temperature gradient there

[MarcusH]

9 hours ago, Matthew92 said:

Crazy temperature gradient there

It got colder than predicted by a couple of degrees off.   Currently 25f . Tomorrow lows are predicted for 20f after that temperatures bounce back above freezing quite fast. This year has been a real temperature roller-coaster ride for us in the South.  So far nothing in my yard has been covered. Three freezes within 2 months, I would like to see how my palms recover from it. My Robusta has seen cosmetical damage so far , Filiferas look good. Hopefully this was the last freeze. 

[ChrisA]

I’ve been sitting at 23F for the last hour so. Thinking that tonight will likely get into the teens since this morning was only supposed to go down to 30F. That’s a big F for the weather people in my book.  At least if it doesn’t get much colder than this we’ll still have had a 9A winter. It just sucks that we get these freezes following very warm weeks of weather that cause plants to break dormancy.  I was really hoping to get some Loquats this year.  I’ve got lots of seedlings coming up but with three mature trees I’ve gotten exactly 2 fruits (last spring) in 4 f’ing years!! When the hell did the conditions exist that you could enjoy loquat fruits!! This climate is crazy. 
 

So now we gotta watch the next few weeks. Some forecasts have us back in the 80’s next week, some have us in the 60’s with lows near 40. I’m keeping my frost cloth handy until early April. I don’t trust the weather to not be so fickle here. And if the models show another cold outbreak hitting the central US that could mean another freeze here. 😳 

[UK_Palms]

Dallas is cooked man. Those temperatures are ludicrous. I mean central Dallas has just beaten Central London’s all time ever record minimum this morning with -10C / 14F lol.

 

-10.3C / 13F on the Farmers Market station in the centre of Dallas this morning. In over 100 years of records, it has never got that cold at St James Park in London and that is a station out in the open at a park. The urban areas of central London never would have gone lower than -9C / 16F way back in 63’ or 87’. Dallas is just cooked for winter freezes. They must have just had a lucky run in the 2000’s and 2010’s. But reality has bit in recent years.

 

These are temps at 8:30am after a slight warmup… 💀

Dallas Love field showing a wind chill of -20C / -5F. How is that even possible? The airmass itself isn’t actually that cold at hPa level. It must be the lack of nearby water to moderate land temps, so they hit so much harder/colder.

[PAPalmtrees]

1 hour ago, UK_Palms said:

Dallas is cooked man. Those temperatures are ludicrous. I mean central Dallas has just beaten Central London’s all time ever record minimum this morning with -10C / 14F lol.

 

-10.3C / 13F on the Farmers Market station in the centre of Dallas this morning. In over 100 years of records, it has never got that cold at St James Park in London and that is a station out in the open at a park. The urban areas of central London never would have gone lower than -9C / 16F way back in 63’ or 87’. Dallas is just cooked for winter freezes. They must have just had a lucky run in the 2000’s and 2010’s. But reality has bit in recent years.

 

These are temps at 8:30am after a slight warmup… 💀

Dallas Love field showing a wind chill of -20C / -5F. How is that even possible? The airmass itself isn’t actually that cold at hPa level. It must be the lack of nearby water to moderate land temps, so they hit so much harder/colder.

Man Dallas can't get a break they keep having these really cold winters😭

[Mazat]

On 13.2.2025 at 23:37, Robert Cade Ross said:

Wenn das meine Jahresergebnisse sind, dann ist das deprimierend 😵 😵 😵 😵 😵 

hope everyone recovers with you

[Mazat]

3 hours ago, MarcusH said:

Es ist ein paar Grad kälter geworden als vorhergesagt. Derzeit -4 °C. Für morgen sind Tiefstwerte von -6 °C vorhergesagt, danach steigen die Temperaturen recht schnell wieder über den Gefrierpunkt. Dieses Jahr war für uns im Süden eine wahre Temperatur-Achterbahnfahrt. Bisher war in meinem Garten nichts abgedeckt. Drei Frostperioden innerhalb von zwei Monaten, ich bin gespannt, wie sich meine Palmen davon erholen. Meine Robusta hat bisher kosmetische Schäden davongetragen, Filiferas sehen gut aus. Hoffentlich war dies der letzte Frost. 

I hope that everyone who has suffered damage will recover and that the others will be spared. yes, here too it's an up and down, no longer really predictable, max. 3 days if at all ...

[Mazat]

On 16.2.2025 at 00:07, Xenon said:

Alle 10 meiner ungeschützten Zitrusbäume sind am Leben und die meisten von ihnen verzeichnen einen enormen Wachstumsschub. Ich habe Satsumas, Mandarinen, Pampelmusen, Orangen usw. Meiner Meinung nach sind Zitrusfrüchte hier immer noch die beste Wahl. Einige der Pfirsiche, die extrem wenig Kälte vertragen, sind ok. Ich werde hier keine 20 Zitrusbilder posten, aber hier sind ein paar Highlights: (Sie können auf diesen Bildern auch einige Königinnen sehen, die endlich knusprig geworden sind, die Mitte ist ganz grün und drückt)

Orange Frost Satsuma, keine Schäden, kein Blattabfall, massiver Neuwuchs

Cara Cara Nabel, nur der letzte Austrieb von Nov.-Dez. ist gestorben. Minimaler Blattabfall und jetzt massiver Neuaustrieb

Moro Blutorange, 50 % Blattabfall, aber fast kein Absterben. Das Wachstum erfolgt aus den Spitzen heraus

 

all look good, great, I'm happy for you.
in our village, a neighbor has several varieties of citrus fruit that always survive well, but mine and my friend's don't. it seems that a good friendship has yet to develop between us, to put it that way.

[Mazat]

On 16.2.2025 at 00:07, Xenon said:

Alle 10 meiner ungeschützten Zitrusbäume sind am Leben und die meisten von ihnen verzeichnen einen enormen Wachstumsschub. Ich habe Satsumas, Mandarinen, Pampelmusen, Orangen usw. Meiner Meinung nach sind Zitrusfrüchte hier immer noch die beste Wahl. Einige der Pfirsiche, die extrem wenig Kälte vertragen, sind ok. Ich werde hier keine 20 Zitrusbilder posten, aber hier sind ein paar Highlights: (Sie können auf diesen Bildern auch einige Königinnen sehen, die endlich knusprig geworden sind, die Mitte ist ganz grün und drückt)

Orange Frost Satsuma, keine Schäden, kein Blattabfall, massiver Neuwuchs

Cara Cara Nabel, nur der letzte Austrieb von Nov.-Dez. ist gestorben. Minimaler Blattabfall und jetzt massiver Neuaustrieb

Moro Blutorange, 50 % Blattabfall, aber fast kein Absterben. Das Wachstum erfolgt aus den Spitzen heraus

 

oh yes, the queen is also coming back. i forgot to mention it 😊

[Mazat]

On 17.2.2025 at 00:45, amh said:

Wenn Sie kältebeständige Zitrusfrüchte möchten.

Schritt 1: Samen von Früchten sammeln.

Schritt 2: Lassen Sie die Samen keimen.

Schritt 3: Lassen Sie die Setzlinge in Töpfen wachsen, bis sie etwa einen Meter hoch sind, und pflanzen Sie sie im Frühling in die Erde.

Schritt 4: Gießen und düngen Sie die Pflanzen während der gesamten Wachstumsperiode.

Schritt 5: Lassen Sie den Winter seine Arbeit tun.

Die Pflanzen, die überleben, sind kälteresistent und wachsen auf ihren eigenen Wurzeln. Herzlichen Glückwunsch, Sie haben nicht mehr als 50 Dollar für eine minderwertige, „legale“, kälteresistente Zitrusfrucht verschwendet, die vielleicht noch ein weiteres Jahr überlebt.

very interesting. a colleague who lives right by the lake only does it this way, he says even fit-looking smaller and larger citrus plants, cheaper and more expensive trees are usually much less hardy and cold-tolerant than plants grown from seed.

[MarcusH]

43 minutes ago, Mazat said:

I hope that everyone who has suffered damage will recover and that the others will be spared. yes, here too it's an up and down, no longer really predictable, max. 3 days if at all ...

Ich spreche auch deutsch lol.  Deutscher immigrant.  

To my English speaking folks I said I speak German.  I'm a German immigrant.  No worries I won't turn this into a German debate. Lol. 

[Mazat]

6 minutes ago, MarcusH said:

Ich spreche auch deutsch lol.  Deutscher immigrant.  

To my English speaking folks I said I speak German.  I'm a German immigrant.  No worries I won't turn this into a German debate. Lol. 

ja, klar. du hast einen guten humor, Marcus. 😊und deine direkte art schätze ich.

best regards vom schwäbischen meer swiss side 

Tom

[Robert Cade Ross]

It’s sooo cold 😒