Dypsis rivularis or sari palm any others out there I don’t see them on palm talk much

[happypalms]

My little sari palm hidden away out of sight behind my Areca vestria planted 24 years ago it wa# one of the first palms to get planted in my garden it has been slow to get a move on  it giving my garden a little more attention it seems to be putting on some grow pace I had another one that had six feet of trunk but sadly it moved on to the palm garden in the sky I haven’t seen it mentioned much on palm talk a real beauty of a palm that should be grown more often I have around a 100 seedlings in my greenhouse a real winner in the palm department I loved them so much I named my cat after this palm sari.

[Harry’s Palms]

That is a slow one , nice coloring on the crown shaft area . Is this one single trunk species? I know in this large Genus , some are clumping . I have only just started with Dypsis since my visit to @DoomsDave , he has quite a few species but I don’t recall seeing this one. He could have one but there were so many palms there. I’ve only had a couple Lutescens for many years and I love them . Harry

[TomJ]

I have had two in the ground for some time.

Slow. Pictures from June.

[Jonathan Haycock]

I've seen a few in private gardens around Queensland Richard, but they tend to look quite ratty unless conditions are perfect for them. The best ones I saw were at Kieran McDermott's place, in partial shade on the edge of his large damn, so assume they have access to permanent moisture. 

[DoomsDave]

Once upon a time, I got a few D. rivularis; eventually all ended up in the compost pile, alas.

 

[DoomsDave]

15 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

That is a slow one , nice coloring on the crown shaft area . Is this one single trunk species? I know in this large Genus , some are clumping . I have only just started with Dypsis since my visit to @DoomsDave , he has quite a few species but I don’t recall seeing this one. He could have one but there were so many palms there. I’ve only had a couple Lutescens for many years and I love them . Harry

Dypsis are a nice large diverse group. But some fail, at least for me, and D. rivularis is one. They seem way too tropical for me.

[happypalms]

19 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

That is a slow one , nice coloring on the crown shaft area . Is this one single trunk species? I know in this large Genus , some are clumping . I have only just started with Dypsis since my visit to @DoomsDave , he has quite a few species but I don’t recall seeing this one. He could have one but there were so many palms there. I’ve only had a couple Lutescens for many years and I love them . Harry

They are a nice palm and they are as single as Nun on a Sunday they are rare in my area but that will change when I get mine up to size for sale dypsis are one of my favourite genus of palms doing so well in my climate iam almost the same latitude as Madagascar a lot of plants do well from Madagascar and new Caledonia in my area.

Richard 

[happypalms]

4 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

Once upon a time, I got a few D. rivularis; eventually all ended up in the compost pile, alas.

 

That’s a shame they are a lovely small palm it hurts when you kill a palm of any variety.

[happypalms]

15 hours ago, Jonathan Haycock said:

I've seen a few in private gardens around Queensland Richard, but they tend to look quite ratty unless conditions are perfect for them. The best ones I saw were at Kieran McDermott's place, in partial shade on the edge of his large damn, so assume they have access to permanent moisture. 

They like water but tolerant of dry conditions mine has responded well to a bit  of TLC what doesn’t Kieran have is the question that’s one garden that should be on the rare and endangered to be preserved for future generations list amazing garden and not just a 1 acre block either.

[Jonathan Haycock]

2 hours ago, happypalms said:

They like water but tolerant of dry conditions mine has responded well to a bit  of TLC what doesn’t Kieran have is the question that’s one garden that should be on the rare and endangered to be preserved for future generations list amazing garden and not just a 1 acre block either.

40 or 50 acres I believe, The largest dam alone is 5-6 acres!!! I wish I could afford a single acre. Kieran's daughter and her young family just moved in and he is hoping they will grow attached to the property and take it on after he is gone. It is a difficult ask though as nowadays land is worth so much. 

[happypalms]

51 minutes ago, Jonathan Haycock said:

40 or 50 acres I believe, The largest dam alone is 5-6 acres!!! I wish I could afford a single acre. Kieran's daughter and her young family just moved in and he is hoping they will grow attached to the property and take it on after he is gone. It is a difficult ask though as nowadays land is worth so much. 

One hopes it stays in the family a true legacy to Kieran to behold that garden has the potential to be world heritage listed imagine a garden make over and new plantings it would rival Singapore botanical gardens given the right curator.

[Harry’s Palms]

Richard , I love it! “Single as a nun on Sunday” , a good laugh for my wife and I this morning! The most recent Dypsis I bought , two are single trunk and one is (maybe) a clumping variety. Good luck with those , Harry

[realarch]

Thanks for the posts about this smaller palm. Of all the species in the garden, this one seems to always be having a ‘bad hair day.’ I had originally planted a cluster of three, but as they matured the wild habit of the crowns grew together and looked like a messy thicket of fronds. So, I removed two of them and the remaining palm took on a whole new look. Giving the palm some room has enhanced its habit, color, and scale.

Here are a few photos.

Tim   

[Tracy]

2 hours ago, realarch said:

Thanks for the posts about this smaller palm. Of all the species in the garden, this one seems to always be having a ‘bad hair day.’ I had originally planted a cluster of three, but as they matured the wild habit of the crowns grew together and looked like a messy thicket of fronds. So, I removed two of them and the remaining palm took on a whole new look. Giving the palm some room has enhanced its habit, color, and scale.

Here are a few photos.

Tim   

I will guess this is now a Chrysalidocarpus as opposed to Dypsis?  I am strictly basing my guess on trunk thickness since I have other Chrysalidocarpus with narrower tanks than this and size seems to be the major factor in the reclassification when the genus was split.

[Jonathan Haycock]

9 minutes ago, Tracy said:

I will guess this is now a Chrysalidocarpus as opposed to Dypsis?  I am strictly basing my guess on trunk thickness since I have other Chrysalidocarpus with narrower tanks than this and size seems to be the major factor in the reclassification when the genus was split.

Apparently it still remains in Dypsis.

[realarch]

I believe Jonathan is correct. I referred to that Phylogenomics paper from 8/22 which has this palm under the genus Dypsis.

Tim

[Tracy]

3 hours ago, realarch said:

I believe Jonathan is correct. I referred to that Phylogenomics paper from 8/22 which has this palm under the genus Dypsis.

Tim

I was too lazy to go to the paper and look it up.  There are a few that I still don't find intuitive.   Thank you Jonathan and Tim for setting me straight. 

[happypalms]

19 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

Richard , I love it! “Single as a nun on Sunday” , a good laugh for my wife and I this morning! The most recent Dypsis I bought , two are single trunk and one is (maybe) a clumping variety. Good luck with those , Harry

Yes not to bad Nuns are meant to single so I thought fitted well with your question dypsis are a fantastic genus hopefully your ones  are winners you just have to choose which ones you like the small real dypsis are amazing perfect for the understory.

[happypalms]

15 hours ago, realarch said:

Thanks for the posts about this smaller palm. Of all the species in the garden, this one seems to always be having a ‘bad hair day.’ I had originally planted a cluster of three, but as they matured the wild habit of the crowns grew together and looked like a messy thicket of fronds. So, I removed two of them and the remaining palm took on a whole new look. Giving the palm some room has enhanced its habit, color, and scale.

Here are a few photos.

Tim   

Now that’s a winner of a rivularis I wish my big one hadn’t died it is what it is they do seem to get  tatty look at first glance but when you approach them they seem to do there hair and put on a show strutting there stuff your garden looks very similar to my garden many years of growing I wish my palms would get the green moss look so tropical.

[happypalms]

9 hours ago, realarch said:

I believe Jonathan is correct. I referred to that Phylogenomics paper from 8/22 which has this palm under the genus Dypsis.

Tim

I was wondering if it was still a dypsis that’s good news it still is.

[happypalms]

Thanks for the dypsis details solved that mystery for me glad it’s still a dypsis.

[Harry’s Palms]

I have not updated my tags on my Dypsis palms , save for the Lutescens. I know there are more , and if the tags need refreshing I will look them up before rewriting on the tags . For now , in my humble world , they will be Dypsis. Harry

[happypalms]

10 hours ago, Harry’s Palms said:

I have not updated my tags on my Dypsis palms , save for the Lutescens. I know there are more , and if the tags need refreshing I will look them up before rewriting on the tags . For now , in my humble world , they will be Dypsis. Harry

There going to be dypsis to me as well that’s what I purchased them as science is fun and if they want to change a name let them I wonder if they change there children ps name 20 years later and as for tags I have palms in my garden I can’t remember there names they never get tags it’s the good old memory for but it does fail at times.

Richard