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Spear pull - moisture after rain


smatofu

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Hello Guys!

 

Unfortunately, I pulled spear from my CIDP.  I don't cut the trunk yet, but I cut all fronts to the level where spear cavity starts. the cavity is about 8-12 inches deep.

I cover the palm when its raining.

After recent rain, I've noticed dew over the cut fronds. Water also collected at the bottom of the spear cavity.

Wouldn't that mean that the palm is still alive? That there is healthy and live tissue inside the trunk?

 

Thank you!

 

 

 

 

 

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Zone 6b maritime climate

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From seeing inside the cavity, there is live tissue there (very light brown, yellow color)

But when I pour hydrogen peroxide, there is minimal bubbling. 

I think it is a good sign! live tissue and no rot!

 

 

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15 hours ago, smatofu said:

Unfortunately, I pulled spear from my CIDP.

 

48 minutes ago, smatofu said:

I think it is a good sign! live tissue and no rot!

Wow. Problem solved in 15 hrs. Awesome news.

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11 minutes ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

 

Wow. Problem solved in 15 hrs. Awesome news.

ha, ha, ha... 🤣 I don't know where you see it 🤣   The palm is treated with copper fungicide and bacteriocides, and that stuff works = rot has been stopped for now.

How deep is the damage? Will the palm ever grow again? This I don't know. 

 

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29 minutes ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

in 15 hrs

I pulled the spear and started treatment about 2 weeks ago. 

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Sunlight(UV) is a great disinfectant.  If mine, I might trunk cut to expose the "live tissue" unless I was seeing growth movement.

Festering can start quickly in dark, warm places.  

Enough about the wife, back to palms...

 

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This is what I would remove, on not actually in the trunk.  

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11 minutes ago, jwitt said:

Sunlight(UV) is a great disinfectant.  If mine, I might trunk cut to expose the "live tissue" unless I was seeing growth movement.

I am thinking about a lower cut... but I will give the palm more time.

Some sources warn about too early low cuts because it weakens palm structure: weak support and protection for new fronds.

Unfortunately, I don't see any growth yet... maybe it is still too cold for CIDP.

 

 

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I would trunk cut it.  Put a stick in the hole and see how deep and start cut in that area if that makes sense.

 

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Speaking of spear pull, here's the biggest spear pull I've ever had. Happened today with my dead as a door nail Majesty palm. LOL! Killed by death.

 

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So far, all that grows inside my palm, is mold.

Days are warm >80F, but no growth... it doesn't look good...

 

 

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I would cut down until you get to live tissue . I might have been able to save a Palmetto if I had cut down into the crown earlier , possibly in March would've been good  . The damage happened  when I had an 7-8 day below freezing period back in 2018 , considered a 100 year event here . I took the statement  that Palmettos can take down to 7F too literally because it got to 7F twice during that cold snap so I thought everything was OK . They forgot to say that the palm needs a few  mild periods after those 7F nights . 

When I finally cut down into it in May?  I found just a stinky mess . 

Will

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3 hours ago, WSimpson said:

I would cut down until you get to live tissue .

An advantage behind the cut is to release a supposed constriction that doesn't allow a new growth to push through.

But I don't see any constriction in my palm.

A disadvantage of the cut is that the palm loses structural integrity: there is nothing to physically support the new growth until is matures.  

 

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Sunlight is the best disinfectant....

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  • 2 weeks later...

After rain, the palm started to smell again and more fruit flies..

I decided to cut.

 

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