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Phoenix Date Palm ID & Seed viability?


Dwarf Fan

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I have found what I believe to be a Phoenix Dactylifera growing at a condo complex on the Island that is currently dropping seeds all over the adjacent public street so I decided to collect what was on the ground.

Question 1: Am I correct in IDing this as a Phoenix Dactylifera?

 

Question 2: I opened up a couple of the Dates to take a pic of the seeds and they seem under developed compared to the ones I seen online which seemed more fat and defined. Do these seeds look viable?

 

Question 3: Does this species self pollinate or does there need to be another Phoenix nearby?

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8 hours ago, Dwarf Fan said:

I have found what I believe to be a Phoenix Dactylifera growing at a condo complex on the Island that is currently dropping seeds all over the adjacent public street so I decided to collect what was on the ground.

Question 1: Am I correct in IDing this as a Phoenix Dactylifera?

 

Question 2: I opened up a couple of the Dates to take a pic of the seeds and they seem under developed compared to the ones I seen online which seemed more fat and defined. Do these seeds look viable?

 

Question 3: Does this species self pollinate or does there need to be another Phoenix nearby?

 

Looks like you are correct that it's a female dactylifera or dactylifera hybrid.  Those seeds are not viable - most likely because there's not a male Phoenix nearby.

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Jon Sunder

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1 hour ago, Fusca said:

Looks like you are correct that it's a female dactylifera or dactylifera hybrid.  Those seeds are not viable - most likely because there's not a male Phoenix nearby.

Thanks so much Fusca for the confirmation of what my gut was already telling me. 👍
 

Well there is a CIDP that is about to explode all over the sidewalk soon just around the block, I will post up what I find whenever it drops, hopefully it will have produced something viable.

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11 hours ago, Fusca said:

Looks like you are correct that it's a female dactylifera or dactylifera hybrid.  Those seeds are not viable - most likely because there's not a male Phoenix nearby.

Is the fruit edible, nonetheless?

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5 hours ago, SeanK said:

Is the fruit edible, nonetheless?

Absolutely edible in the sense that it is not toxic.  However it is unlikely to taste good due to the humid location.  The dates need to ripen in a hot/dry climate for quality fruits to be produced.  Even areas west of here away from the coast have not been able to produce quality dates like they can in Arizona and eastern California.

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Jon Sunder

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17 hours ago, SeanK said:

Is the fruit edible, nonetheless?

I have no idea what type of landscaping chemicals may have been recently sprayed on these “street palms” if they were something I grew in my organic soil with organic Palm Tone I wouldn’t mind trying out some dates or making Butia Jelly but I am definitely not up for taste testing any seeds that I literally just picked out of the gutter.

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