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Pre Tour Tour of Two awesome San Diego Gardens


DoomsDave

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The PSSC is having a garden tour at two cool gardens in San Diego in September 16 (edited), 2023 @ellidro; and one in Encinitas the other in the city proper @Matt in SD.

Here’s me next to Matt’s Chrysalidocarpus (Dypsis) “Big Red”; it’s almost as fat as me! And a lot purtier!

But don’t take my word - come see for yourselves!

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That’s a beast!!!

hehehe 😜

 

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@DoomsDave- September 16 or 23rd?

I’m really hoping it’s the 23rd as listed above, since I *might* be able to make that one happen… but it was listed as the 16th in another post, which sadly conflicts with a “mom and me” sleepaway camp I’ve committed to attend with my daughter. Hoping the date was changed to the 23rd, but if not please post LOTS of photos/videos. 🤞

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1 hour ago, iDesign said:

@DoomsDave- September 16 or 23rd?

I’m really hoping it’s the 23rd as listed above, since I *might* be able to make that one happen… but it was listed as the 16th in another post, which sadly conflicts with a “mom and me” sleepaway camp I’ve committed to attend with my daughter. Hoping the date was changed to the 23rd, but if not please post LOTS of photos/videos. 🤞

Yeah, @DoomsDave needs to clarify for sure. I’ve heard both so I’m confused too. This is going to be one of those meetings everybody needs to attend and will surely regret it if they are unable. No excuses people!! 😂
 

Let us know Dave. Thanks. 
 

-dale 

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I have to agree, I most likely can make the 23rd.. not sure about the 16th.

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It's September 16th, gonna flog self.

Sorry.

2023.

 

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11 hours ago, BS Man about Palms said:

I have to agree, I most likely can make the 23rd.. not sure about the 16th.

It's September 16th,

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13 hours ago, iDesign said:

@DoomsDave- September 16 or 23rd?

I’m really hoping it’s the 23rd as listed above, since I *might* be able to make that one happen… but it was listed as the 16th in another post, which sadly conflicts with a “mom and me” sleepaway camp I’ve committed to attend with my daughter. Hoping the date was changed to the 23rd, but if not please post LOTS of photos/videos. 🤞

13 hours ago, iDesign said:

@DoomsDave- September 16 or 23rd?

I’m really hoping it’s the 23rd as listed above, since I *might* be able to make that one happen… but it was listed as the 16th in another post, which sadly conflicts with a “mom and me” sleepaway camp I’ve committed to attend with my daughter. Hoping the date was changed to the 23rd, but if not please post LOTS of photos/videos. 🤞

its the 6hth

12 hours ago, Billeb said:

Yeah, @DoomsDave needs to clarify for sure. I’ve heard both so I’m confused too. This is going to be one of those meetings everybody needs to attend and will surely regret it if they are unable. No excuses people!! 😂
 

Let us know Dave. Thanks. 
 

-dale 

It's September 16th,

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This is me in front of @Matt in SD’s fat and happy Parajubaea torallyi torallyi and an even fatter Sabal.

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@PALM MOD can you please change the date from September 23 to September 16th in the original post? the 23rd is the wrong date

thanks 

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On 8/20/2023 at 8:28 PM, BS Man about Palms said:

I have to agree, I most likely can make the 23rd.. not sure about the 16th.

Don't miss out Bill.  First time ever both of these garden will be on display.  

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8 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

This is me in front of @Matt in SD’s fat and happy Parajubaea torallyi torallyi and an even fatter Sabal.

What a picture those palms have to be seen in person. Is the Sabal im guessing Causiarum shaded out , seems extremely stretched. 

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13 hours ago, Josh-O said:

@PALM MOD can you please change the date from September 23 to September 16th in the original post? the 23rd is the wrong date

thanks 

Done!

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8 hours ago, PALM MOD said:

Done!

Thank you!

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Okay, the wikipedia says that Parajubaea torallyi is cold hardy to 9F, is this true?

I think I need one.

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Extremely unlikely :indifferent:

P. cocoides, from high elevation cloud forest in Ecuador is only good to 26-28 F. 

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12 minutes ago, amh said:

Okay, the wikipedia says that Parajubaea torallyi is cold hardy to 9F, is this true?

I think I need one.

The real drawback for you in Texas is that P. torallyi prefer mild or cool summer climate without extremes. Winter might not kill one in your area but summer most likely would. 

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6 minutes ago, Jim in Los Altos said:

The real drawback for you in Texas is that P. torallyi prefer mild or cool summer climate without extremes. Winter might not kill one in your area but summer most likely would. 

I'm guessing that the last 3 months being above 106F wouldn't be conducive for any mild climate species to survive.

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Here’s @Josh-O next to a (expletive) Latania. 
 

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The Sabal is supposed to be uresana.  Looking forward to seeing everyone at the tour.

 

Matt

 

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Thanks Dave. Looking forward to this. I think the last time I was at Nicks was the last PSSC tour he had years back. Seen Matt’s again recently and it is a stunner. 

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9 hours ago, Matt in SD said:

The Sabal is supposed to be uresana.

Holy smokes that Uresana is in its own league 😳 

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@Josh-O with kentiopsis magnifica!

Scream those obscenities!


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3 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

@Josh-O with kentiopsis magnifica!

Scream those obscenities!


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Love palm that tree!! Matt did a killer job growing it so nicely 

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On 8/26/2023 at 7:41 PM, DoomsDave said:

@Josh-O with kentiopsis magnifica!

Scream those obscenities!


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Love palm that tree!! Matt did a killer job growing it so nicely 

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Just A few amazing morsels to drool over before seeing them in person at Nick’s Garden. Before the September 16th PSSC meeting.  Look how big the Ovo. is to the left. Not to mention that crazy Dypsis albofarinosa lurking in the back 

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Okay not a Palm but still cool a Ficus dammaeropsis in Nick’s garden.

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which PT members will be attending the PSSC meeting on the 16th?

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I’ve always wanted to go just always busy. How can I join and attend? I have never met Matt but I’ve been watching his posts forever and when it came time to buy our house in SD that’s why I chose Spring Valley because of him, lol.

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48 minutes ago, Wodyetia said:

I’ve always wanted to go just always busy. How can I join and attend? I have never met Matt but I’ve been watching his posts forever and when it came time to buy our house in SD that’s why I chose Spring Valley because of him, lol.

Matt P lives on San Diego  (sept 16th meeting) 

Matt Bradford lives in Spring Valley 

think you got the 2 mixed up?

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@GottmitAlex you gonna be joining us, ja?

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Benetickia

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20 hours ago, Josh-O said:

Matt P lives on San Diego  (sept 16th meeting) 

Matt Bradford lives in Spring Valley 

think you got the 2 mixed up?

MattyB and Matt P.... but both are master gardeners among their other traits.  Both gardens for this upcoming meeting, Nick's in Encinitas and Matt P's in University City, are clearly outstanding and worth a drive to see some zone pushing plantings for Southern California.  Looking forward to visiting the parents of my Meryta balansae again in Matt P's UC garden.

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21 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

@GottmitAlex you gonna be joining us, ja?

Whaddya think? 

I'm stoked! 

mein Frau is gonna prepare some nice Mexican fixins' fer alle.

Can't wait.  

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, GottmitAlex said:

Whaddya think? 

I'm stoked! 

mein Frau is gonna prepare some nice Mexican fixins' fer alle.

Can't wait.  

 

 

 

Mein Mund ist foamin!

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Pant pant pant 

Licky!

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On 9/6/2023 at 3:44 PM, GottmitAlex said:

Whaddya think? 

I'm stoked! 

mein Frau is gonna prepare some nice Mexican fixins' fer alle.

Can't wait.  

 

 

 

make sure you say Hi Alex. Its always a pleasure to talk with you at the meetings

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