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Another day in paradise in the garden

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4 hours ago, KrisKupsch said:

drought tolerant ? Not so. It might survive but they hate dry and hardly ever grow if dry. 

it’s a palm that adores a lot of water and will grow in water. Likely would survive -5C too. 
 

nice post 

That’s awesome info. 
 

The ones I saw in habitat were in a slushy swampy upland stream swamp area, which agrees with what you are saying. 
 

I need to get my hands on this one again. My last one was from Rosebud farm, but had stressed itself through a heatwave on the trip down to Albany when we moved down and eventually died. 

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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4 hours ago, KrisKupsch said:

drought tolerant ? Not so. It might survive but they hate dry and hardly ever grow if dry. 

it’s a palm that adores a lot of water and will grow in water. Likely would survive -5C too. 
 

nice post 

True not drought tolerant but will survive thats most likely why the one I have is so slow and wants to drink water like a drowning fish 

Great job keep them moist in well draining soil out of full sun.

Here are 2 from my garden biggest is from seed in 2009 smallest is around 7 years old they grow like escapees in the ground at my place. 

 

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Old Beach ,Hobart
Tasmania ,Australia. 42 " south
Cool Maritime climate

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4 minutes ago, Tassie_Troy1971 said:

Great job keep them moist in well draining soil out of full sun.

Here are 2 from my garden biggest is from seed in 2009 smallest is around 7 years old they grow like escapees in the ground at my place. 

 

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Nice palms I always thought of Tasmania as a death zone for such exotics you learn something new everyday 

Where are you located Happy 

Old Beach ,Hobart
Tasmania ,Australia. 42 " south
Cool Maritime climate

I got this one as a Christmas gift years back. It started off really slow but has picked up in the past couple. Really beautiful imo 

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For my climate, this is the slowest growing palm I have ever experienced.

San Francisco, California

12 hours ago, happypalms said:

Hi Tim did you get your seeds from David 

Yes, seed doesn’t come around often so I thought it was more than coincidence. 
 

Here’s my older one in the garden. This species is a bit more challenging here than for Troy, still gets sunburn in summer until the canopy around it grows more, but otherwise it’s fairly happy. 

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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

13 hours ago, KrisKupsch said:

drought tolerant ? Not so. It might survive but they hate dry and hardly ever grow if dry. 

it’s a palm that adores a lot of water and will grow in water. Likely would survive -5C too. 
 

nice post 

Agree. I made the mistake years ago of letting a seedling slightly dry out and it dies near instantly. Wasn’t even hot or warm at the time, I think it was April and I eased off water after getting it through summer. Won’t make that mistake again. 
 

Luckily I got a replacement. It got a bit of crown rot after a wet Spring in 2022, but otherwise happy in a heavily shaded, moist position. 

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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

11 hours ago, Tyrone said:

That’s awesome info. 
 

The ones I saw in habitat were in a slushy swampy upland stream swamp area, which agrees with what you are saying. 
 

I need to get my hands on this one again. My last one was from Rosebud farm, but had stressed itself through a heatwave on the trip down to Albany when we moved down and eventually died. 

I’ve many if WA let you receive. 

11 hours ago, happypalms said:

True not drought tolerant but will survive thats most likely why the one I have is so slow and wants to drink water like a drowning fish 

Visit me sometime in Burringbar. I’ll show you sites they like. I’ve maybe 30 planted.

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11 hours ago, Tyrone said:

That’s awesome info. 
 

The ones I saw in habitat were in a slushy swampy upland stream swamp area, which agrees with what you are saying. 
 

I need to get my hands on this one again. My last one was from Rosebud farm, but had stressed itself through a heatwave on the trip down to Albany when we moved down and eventually died. 

The one I have is from rosebud farm I credit most of my collection that is established in my garden from rosebud (rip rich) 

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14 minutes ago, KrisKupsch said:

Visit me sometime in Burringbar. I’ll show you sites they like. I’ve maybe 30 planted.

Will do always interested in any information about gardening and always learning something new thanks 

3 minutes ago, happypalms said:

The one I have is from rosebud farm I credit most of my collection that is established in my garden from rosebud (rip rich) 

I miss Rich. He made palm collecting so easy in Australia. I was fortunate to meet him twice when visiting his nursery. A real nice guy. 

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Darold Petty said:

For my climate, this is the slowest growing palm I have ever experienced.

They are slow I thought joeys in my climate were slower than a wet week Oraniopsis even slower 

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4 minutes ago, Tyrone said:

I miss Rich. He made palm collecting so easy in Australia. I was fortunate to meet him twice when visiting his nursery. A real nice guy. 

A true palm guru when I get a plaque made up for my garden Rich’s name will be top of the list 

4 minutes ago, happypalms said:

They are slow I thought joeys in my climate were slower than a wet week Oraniopsis even slower 

In northland NZ they are almost fast. Red soil. No extremes of cold or heat. I’ve them over my head in 20 years here on the far nensw coast. I expect flowers any moment. 

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11 hours ago, Tassie_Troy1971 said:

Where are you located Happy 

Halfway between Grafton and Coffs Harbour nsw with a unique microclimate 

11 hours ago, Tassie_Troy1971 said:

Where are you located Happy

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2 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Yes, seed doesn’t come around often so I thought it was more than coincidence. 
 

Here’s my older one in the garden. This species is a bit more challenging here than for Troy, still gets sunburn in summer until the canopy around it grows more, but otherwise it’s fairly happy. 

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Yes David has good quality seeds do you have chuniophoenix nana 

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12 minutes ago, KrisKupsch said:

In northland NZ they are almost fast. Red soil. No extremes of cold or heat. I’ve them over my head in 20 years here on the far nensw coast. I expect flowers any moment. 

Crazy a palm from the far north tropics growing so well in kiwi land I will be up your way in a couple of weeks cheers 

15 minutes ago, KrisKupsch said:

In northland NZ they are almost fast. Red soil. No extremes of cold or heat. I’ve them over my head in 20 years here on the far nensw coast. I expect flowers any moment. 

That makes sense. Rich volcanic soil, abundant rainfall, and year round mild temps, probably very similar to the Atherton tablelands and places like Mt Lewis. 

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

1 hour ago, happypalms said:

Yes David has good quality seeds do you have chuniophoenix nana 

Yes, one in the ground. Nice little palm. Is pushing growth even now and hasn’t stopped through the cold winter. 

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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

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I have a licuala ramsayi and it apparently has decided to split into two with two spears all growing well has anyone seen or heard of this variety doing this I have been told that there is a variant in far North Queensland that has this trait 

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Here’s are a couple of photos of one that’s been in the ground for 13 years now from a 3 gal. pot. Growing well and looks like time for a good feed. 

Kris, if you get the time, post a few photos.

Tim

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Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

Here’s a beast from Landsendt gardens, Auckland NZ. I saw some massive ones up in the northern parts of NZ. 

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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

Tim, oh yeah, I like it!

Tim

Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

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Here’s a few of the chameadorea Metallica I have in my garden a tough little palm and so beautiful they love deep shade go a bit yellow in bright light an absolutely gorgeous little palm 

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I love these guys.  A little hard to find around here these days. 

1 hour ago, Looking Glass said:

I love these guys.  A little hard to find around here these days. 

Yes. I wonder why that is. They used to be extremely popular. Most nurseries that used to carry them don't anymore. Is there a lack of seed availability?

6 hours ago, hbernstein said:

Yes. I wonder why that is. They used to be extremely popular. Most nurseries that used to carry them don't anymore. Is there a lack of seed availability?



Excellent specimens Happy Palms  :greenthumb::greenthumb:


@hbernstein   Hard to say... There was a nursery in CA that was stocking them up until recently ( Maybe they're working on another crop?? ..eh ?..  ) Definitely not hard to germinate, and easy to hand pollinate.  Did it twice, and all my seed germinated each time.


Like C. microspadix,  these should be much more easy to find palm that should have never gone " out of style ".   ..I'd take a dozen of these,  over one S* -frizi.. ( Waayy too many of those )

For those who can't grow it outside thru the winter  C. metallica  would certainly be easy easier to grow indoors through that time of year  ..or all year..   ..Very unique looking too,  rather than just  ....blah..

6 hours ago, hbernstein said:

Yes. I wonder why that is. They used to be extremely popular. Most nurseries that used to carry them don't anymore. Is there a lack of seed availability?

Here in The Netherlands we have plenty of them🥳 and every once and awhile even plants with fully divided leaves!

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Holly cow that is a beast 

Beautiful examples, Happypalms! 

I'm sure I've seen these in the houseplant sections of a few nurseries in San Diego, but have never seen them on display outdoors.  As mentioned, they need shade and, I think, a regularly moist environment. Or can they tolerate a dry season? Actually I'm not sure...

 

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

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7 hours ago, Kim said:

Beautiful examples, Happypalms! 

I'm sure I've seen these in the houseplant sections of a few nurseries in San Diego, but have never seen them on display outdoors.  As mentioned, they need shade and, I think, a regularly moist environment. Or can they tolerate a dry season? Actually I'm not sure...

 

Hi Kim they are definitely one pretty palm they are drought tolerant they will obviously look and grow better with ample moisture my garden can get very dry at certain times they have proven themselves to survive with or without water they will look much better with lots of water in the photos I posted the not so healthy ones are in a dry hot bright light area in my garden so shade they like  the healthy green ones are under irrigation but that’s when I get around to watering so there is a big difference I never fertilise just mulch 

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This has to be one of my all time favourites in my garden so delicate looking it’s in a very protected spot with irrigation it’s around 20 years old a real beauty in any situation if you can find one rarer than hens teeth in my area 

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This has got to be the coolest thing I have seen in a while. This has to be one of my favorite licualas and am a bit jealous. Really cool 

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On 8/11/2023 at 1:53 AM, John hovancsek said:

This has got to be the coolest thing I have seen in a while. This has to be one of my favorite licualas and am a bit jealous. Really cool 

Yes I thought wow how cool (now how do I dig it out and ship it to you 🤣) I have about 100 Ramsayi in pots easy to grow palm and very easy to get in nurseries here 

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 Here’s a couple of my Wallichia densifolia a very tough hardy palm cold tolerant palm temps around 2 degrees not a problem will tolerate dry conditions 

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I was happy to see my Wallichia Densiflora/Oblongifolia make it through two serious freezes and have minimal damage.  Right next to it a Hyophorbe Indica, Ptychosperma Schefferi, and Chamaedorea Metallica all died at around 26-28F.  It's a really pretty palm, the only thing it doesn't like around here is full sun.

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