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5 hours ago, RJ said:

Just 3” inches of spear growth I imagine?

That’s how I took it . I marked the leaf that is opening a few days ago hotnhest wave coming this weekend so we will see how that mark looks late next week 

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Marked the spear after the 3 inch till was brought up . I can Definetly see movement 

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Lift off ? 

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Loving the heat and still moving along 

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Looking great so far!  It seems that it has just about dessicated the old leaves.  Hopefully it'll start a new spear in a few more weeks!

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16 hours ago, Merlyn said:

Looking great so far!  It seems that it has just about dessicated the old leaves.  Hopefully it'll start a new spear in a few more weeks!

Yeah hopefully atleast one more before winter . 

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Thanks for keeping us updated. I am excited to watch it grow on this thread.

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On 7/1/2023 at 6:51 PM, JubaeaMan138 said:

Marked the spear after the 3 inch till was brought up . I can Definetly see movement 

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Kinda hard for me to follow. Was the visible mark here done the day you planted it or after a few weeks?

I see the obvious mark from here appears to be maybe just under 2"
I hope it continues. :greenthumb:

To update those curious, I came up with the "Magic 3" rule" after observing a LOT of transplants of various rare palms. I slowly noted how many of the "big" palms would push say 2" of spear growth fairly quick.... then slow down.. maybe at 2.5" or so and stop.  It seems that what ever stores of energy the palm had could be used to push new spear growth, but by then it was dependent on uptake of nutrients from it's "new" location. Continued growth meant a successful transplant and able to get the water and stuff it needed.

It seemed if it reached the 3" point, they kept going. The sad/frustrating ones are the ones that stop short. :crying:
 

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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31 minutes ago, BS Man about Palms said:

Kinda hard for me to follow. Was the visible mark here done the day you planted it or after a few weeks?

I see the obvious mark from here appears to be maybe just under 2"
I hope it continues. :greenthumb:

To update those curious, I came up with the "Magic 3" rule" after observing a LOT of transplants of various rare palms. I slowly noted how many of the "big" palms would push say 2" of spear growth fairly quick.... then slow down.. maybe at 2.5" or so and stop.  It seems that what ever stores of energy the palm had could be used to push new spear growth, but by then it was dependent on uptake of nutrients from it's "new" location. Continued growth meant a successful transplant and able to get the water and stuff it needed.

It seemed if it reached the 3" point, they kept going. The sad/frustrating ones are the ones that stop short. :crying:
 

Sooo after you brought up the 3 inch rule i

marked it . I want to say it was an about 3 weeks after transplant . It had Definetly moved prior to me marking it. 

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Here’s a few different angles from this evening 

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I think I see a little bit of petiole sticking out!  Even if it doesn't get to ~1 foot long like the last fronds, that's a great sign that the new frond may completely open.  At the very least it won't get jammed up in the center with a future spear.

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6 hours ago, Merlyn said:

I think I see a little bit of petiole sticking out!  Even if it doesn't get to ~1 foot long like the last fronds, that's a great sign that the new frond may completely open.  At the very least it won't get jammed up in the center with a future spear.

Yep second picture you can see the beginning of the petiole for sure I was pretty happy to see that . 

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Trimmed off the dead leaves no use for them anymore . What do you know a spear waiting on deck . 

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Really remarkable.  I wouldn't have expected it to do so well out there--and that soil looks rough. You did it!

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10 hours ago, Frond-friend42 said:

Really remarkable.  I wouldn't have expected it to do so well out there--and that soil looks rough. You did it!

Thanks . Honestly I’m shocked it worked . yeah soil is actually really good soil old citrus grove . But we’re I planted this is on a hillside loaded with big rocks 

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Anyone have any guesses on its age I’m thinking around 10 years?

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This originally came from George Sparkman if that helps anyone recall how old the ones he had were . Thanks 

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2 hours ago, JubaeaMan138 said:

This originally came from George Sparkman if that helps anyone recall how old the ones he had were . Thanks 

RIP George 

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1 hour ago, KrisKupsch said:

RIP George 

Second that! This is my 3rd plant that I know George had his hands on. Appreciate him to the max 

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Sheesh that new leaf looks pretty the speed of this plant so far in the heat seems as though it should not have any problem pushing the second spear open before winter 👌

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Great growth in second spear compared to august 2nd 

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Got a short break from Hilary decided to snap some pictures 

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One thing I noticed about this plant is it puts on serious spear growth when it gets hot High 90s low 100s . Can’t wait to see how the next leaf looks when it opens . I’m thinking it will happen soon I read that this species tends to open the frond halfway out . Which is exactly what the first leaf did about this length or so . Also cool little Alocasias popped up next to it . Must of came with transplant . 

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Got some rain yesterday evening . Snapped this picture pulled the shade cloth off so it could get the nectar of the gods . Looks absolutely killer . 24 oz chela for scale . 

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Looking good! Hope that second spear opens for you before winter.

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Hi,

I think your Tahina is on the safe side now ,-

well done 👍👍!

Lars

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Well here is my second leaf opening now 

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This plant has really blown me away 

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Temps are suppost to cool down to low 80s for day time highs . I am thinking about removing the shade cloth permanently now . Thoughts on that are appreciated . Been around 100 for that last 3 to 4 days . So low 80s I think should be tolerable I had been removing it when temps got around 80s prior for couple days here and there and it did just fine . 

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This is great to see!  Amazing how well this is doing after it was dug.  I have had one in a pot for the past 3 years.  It was given to me because it was a runt and had a spear pull.  After a lot of peroxide and fertilizer it started a new "doinker" push.  After a year, it started another "doinker" and gave up the previous growth point.  I re-potted it with the newest growth pointing up.  Grew for another year and did the same thing!  It's now on it's 3rd "doinker" as it waits for construction at my property to get to a place where I can just plant this thing in the ground finally.  They seem like incredible tough plants!  

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4 hours ago, Hilo Jason said:

This is great to see!  Amazing how well this is doing after it was dug.  I have had one in a pot for the past 3 years.  It was given to me because it was a runt and had a spear pull.  After a lot of peroxide and fertilizer it started a new "doinker" push.  After a year, it started another "doinker" and gave up the previous growth point.  I re-potted it with the newest growth pointing up.  Grew for another year and did the same thing!  It's now on it's 3rd "doinker" as it waits for construction at my property to get to a place where I can just plant this thing in the ground finally.  They seem like incredible tough plants!  

Excellent ! Yes I agree thisnpalm is really tough it seems . I did get an exaggerated size root ball on it . Winter will be the real test . What do you think Jason on the shade cloth through winter? We are mild right now and so far it seems ok . You were the one early in the thread who recommended the shade cloth I think. And I think that ended up being key to its success 

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On 10/23/2023 at 2:59 PM, JubaeaMan138 said:

Excellent ! Yes I agree thisnpalm is really tough it seems . I did get an exaggerated size root ball on it . Winter will be the real test . What do you think Jason on the shade cloth through winter? We are mild right now and so far it seems ok . You were the one early in the thread who recommended the shade cloth I think. And I think that ended up being key to its success 

Hmm, I’m not sure the shade cloth would do much in the winter. I always just used them in California for protecting from sun until acclimated.  Once acclimated then they need to face the winter and hope for the best. And you want as much heat in the soil as possible in winter to maybe shade cloth would actually be a negative?? 

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Looks great. Congrats on doinker #2!

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I wouldn't risk sunburn, why not wait until the winter solstice to remove the shadecloth ?

San Francisco, California

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Happy seasons of the witch !!! Here is second leaf on tahina little smaller than the last but still Flawless can’t see it in the picture but it already has its 3rd spike deep in the crown poking out .won’t see that spear until next spring 

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On 7/23/2023 at 1:49 PM, BS Man about Palms said:

Kinda hard for me to follow. Was the visible mark here done the day you planted it or after a few weeks?

I see the obvious mark from here appears to be maybe just under 2"
I hope it continues. :greenthumb:

To update those curious, I came up with the "Magic 3" rule" after observing a LOT of transplants of various rare palms. I slowly noted how many of the "big" palms would push say 2" of spear growth fairly quick.... then slow down.. maybe at 2.5" or so and stop.  It seems that what ever stores of energy the palm had could be used to push new spear growth, but by then it was dependent on uptake of nutrients from it's "new" location. Continued growth meant a successful transplant and able to get the water and stuff it needed.

It seemed if it reached the 3" point, they kept going. The sad/frustrating ones are the ones that stop short. :crying:
 

What do you think bill? 

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On 10/31/2023 at 4:49 PM, JubaeaMan138 said:

What do you think bill? 

Weeelllll, since you are past your 2nd spear, it looks like the transplant was a success!

Next is ongoing environment... and all indications look great! Kudos and keep it up!  Yay for heat and good work!!

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Dr D and Tahina

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The Palm Mahal

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