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Why don't Majesty & Cat Palms like inside my house?

PashkaTLT

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Hello guys,

This is not the first Majesty palm that doesn't like it inside. This time I had a humidifier in the room and the humidity was ~45%, but still the Majesty & Cat Palms were going allow. Inside they were standing near a window for 2 weeks after I bought them in HomeDepot (they were inside there as well).

Today I decided to put them outside, hopefully they will like it better outside.

Majesty on the left & cat palm on the right:

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They were completely green 2 weeks ago when I bought them from Home Depot.

What's wrong in my house?

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Planted palms: Sabal minor, W. Robusta (Mexican Fan Palm, my favourite!), Windmill, Pindo, Needle, European Fan, Sago palm, Saw Palmetto, Pygmy Date palm

Inside during winter: Majesty, Cat palm, Chinese fan palm, Mexican Fan palm

Allen Grand Master

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15 minutes ago, PashkaTLT said:

Hello guys,

This is not the first Majesty palm that doesn't like it inside. This time I had a humidifier in the room and the humidity was ~45%, but still the Majesty & Cat Palms were going allow. Insiode they were standing near a window.

Today I decided to put them outside. 

Majesty on the left & cat palm on the right:

image.thumb.png.f1f2c77e3f8b59061d72f39fef8dc397.png

They were completely green 2 weeks ago when I bought them from Home Depot.

What's wrong in my house?

Sun acclimation possibly

YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@tntropics - 60+ In-ground 7A palms - (Sabal) minor(8 large + 27 seedling size, 3 dwarf),  brazoria(1) , birmingham(3), louisiana(4), palmetto (1),  (Trachycarpus) fortunei(7+), wagnerianus(2+),  Rhapidophyllum hystrix(7),  Blue Butia odorata (1), Serenoa repens (1) +Tons of tropical plants.  Recent Yearly Lows 4F, -6F, -1F, 12F, 11F, 18F, 16F, 3F, 3F, 6F, 3F, 1F, 16F, 17F, 6F, 8F

 

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PashkaTLT

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@Allen

Maybe I didn't explain well, in HomeDepot they were standing inside as well and they were inside for 2 weeks in my house, I just put them outside today...

Or you mean they were outside in sun at the seller and if I didn't buy them they would go yellow inside HomeDepot too?

Planted palms: Sabal minor, W. Robusta (Mexican Fan Palm, my favourite!), Windmill, Pindo, Needle, European Fan, Sago palm, Saw Palmetto, Pygmy Date palm

Inside during winter: Majesty, Cat palm, Chinese fan palm, Mexican Fan palm

Allen Grand Master

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2 minutes ago, PashkaTLT said:

@Allen

Maybe I didn't explain well, in HomeDepot they were standing inside as well and they were inside for 2 weeks in my house, I just put them outside today...

Or you mean they were outside in sun at the seller and if I didn't buy them they would go yellow inside HomeDepot too?

Not sure then if they haven't been outside in the sun.   Maybe water - You can water those a ton outside.

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YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@tntropics - 60+ In-ground 7A palms - (Sabal) minor(8 large + 27 seedling size, 3 dwarf),  brazoria(1) , birmingham(3), louisiana(4), palmetto (1),  (Trachycarpus) fortunei(7+), wagnerianus(2+),  Rhapidophyllum hystrix(7),  Blue Butia odorata (1), Serenoa repens (1) +Tons of tropical plants.  Recent Yearly Lows 4F, -6F, -1F, 12F, 11F, 18F, 16F, 3F, 3F, 6F, 3F, 1F, 16F, 17F, 6F, 8F

 

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Btw, the average night temperature here is 45F, but the lowest will be 38F (for like 1 hour). Is that ok, or I should take them inside?

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Planted palms: Sabal minor, W. Robusta (Mexican Fan Palm, my favourite!), Windmill, Pindo, Needle, European Fan, Sago palm, Saw Palmetto, Pygmy Date palm

Inside during winter: Majesty, Cat palm, Chinese fan palm, Mexican Fan palm

OC2Texaspalmlvr Grand Master

OC2Texaspalmlvr

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1 hour ago, PashkaTLT said:

Btw, the average night temperature here is 45F, but the lowest will be 38F (for like 1 hour). Is that ok, or I should take them inside?

Both palms can take below a freeze without a frost , even in a pot. 

T J 

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T J 

Las Palmas Norte Grand Master

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2 hours ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

Both palms can take below a freeze without a frost , even in a pot. 

I'm confused. "below a freeze without a frost" ? I don't get it.

Phoenix_Canariensis Apprentice

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8 hours ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

I'm confused. "below a freeze without a frost" ? I don't get it.

probably like when i gets below freezing, but frost doesnt happen because of a light breeze or smth

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OC2Texaspalmlvr Grand Master

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1 hour ago, Phoenix_Canariensis said:

probably like when i gets below freezing, but frost doesnt happen because of a light breeze or smth

If your in a dry area and the dew point is below freezing then it's even less to worry about. 

T J 

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T J 

Las Palmas Norte Grand Master

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I must've had a "senior moment" when I didn't understand what was being stated. I later surmised that it was a low humidity or overhead protection event. I know from previous experiences that if actual frost doesn't settle on fronds, there's several degrees advantage.

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Palmlover_78 Experienced

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On 4/20/2023 at 12:44 AM, Las Palmas Norte said:

I'm confused. "below a freeze without a frost" ? I don't get it.

A frost burns the Fronds, How it does that is when the sun hits the frost it causes the cells in the Fronds to rupture. That is what kills it. At cooler temps without frost, the tree simply goes dormant.

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DreaminAboutPalms Mentor

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Majesty's are terrible house plants. They need tons of water and sunlight and fertilizer and humidity and need to be planted in a swamp essentially to survive. They are only sold because they are cheap 

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Las Palmas Norte Grand Master

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1 hour ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

Majesty's are terrible house plants. They need tons of water and sunlight and fertilizer and humidity and need to be planted in a swamp essentially to survive. They are only sold because they are cheap 

I must be the only person north of the Canadian border that has one growing well, 3 years in. It's because I have followed your criterion.

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subsonicdrone Proficient

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i think mine is doing well over winter but youres does look bigger

i just separated some clusters of 2 and 3 yesterday

Enar Collaborator

Enar

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I firmly believe humidity plays a big role. 

Lowest seen: 16F, Highest seen: 105F. Heavy red clay (iron oxide). Amended to 6.5-7PH using Dolomitic lime. (No yearly fertilizer for lawn, just for independent plants).

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