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Why don't Majesty & Cat Palms like inside my house?


PashkaTLT

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Hello guys,

This is not the first Majesty palm that doesn't like it inside. This time I had a humidifier in the room and the humidity was ~45%, but still the Majesty & Cat Palms were going allow. Inside they were standing near a window for 2 weeks after I bought them in HomeDepot (they were inside there as well).

Today I decided to put them outside, hopefully they will like it better outside.

Majesty on the left & cat palm on the right:

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They were completely green 2 weeks ago when I bought them from Home Depot.

What's wrong in my house?

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Planted palms: Sabal minor, W. Robusta (Mexican Fan Palm, my favourite!), Windmill, Pindo, Needle, European Fan, Sago palm, Saw Palmetto

Inside during winter: Majesty, Cat palm, Chinese fan palm, Pygmy Date palm

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15 minutes ago, PashkaTLT said:

Hello guys,

This is not the first Majesty palm that doesn't like it inside. This time I had a humidifier in the room and the humidity was ~45%, but still the Majesty & Cat Palms were going allow. Insiode they were standing near a window.

Today I decided to put them outside. 

Majesty on the left & cat palm on the right:

image.thumb.png.f1f2c77e3f8b59061d72f39fef8dc397.png

They were completely green 2 weeks ago when I bought them from Home Depot.

What's wrong in my house?

Sun acclimation possibly

YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@tntropics - 60+ In-ground 7A palms - (Sabal) minor(7 large + 27 seedling size, 3 dwarf),  brazoria(1) , birmingham(4), etonia (1) louisiana(5), palmetto (1), riverside (1),  (Trachycarpus) fortunei(7), wagnerianus(1),  Rhapidophyllum hystrix(7),  18' Mule-Butia x Syagrus(1),  Blue Butia odorata (1) +Tons of tropical plants.  Recent Yearly Lows -6F, -1F, 12F, 11F, 18F, 16F, 3F, 3F, 6F, 3F, 1F, 16F, 17F, 6F, 8F

 

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@Allen

Maybe I didn't explain well, in HomeDepot they were standing inside as well and they were inside for 2 weeks in my house, I just put them outside today...

Or you mean they were outside in sun at the seller and if I didn't buy them they would go yellow inside HomeDepot too?

Planted palms: Sabal minor, W. Robusta (Mexican Fan Palm, my favourite!), Windmill, Pindo, Needle, European Fan, Sago palm, Saw Palmetto

Inside during winter: Majesty, Cat palm, Chinese fan palm, Pygmy Date palm

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2 minutes ago, PashkaTLT said:

@Allen

Maybe I didn't explain well, in HomeDepot they were standing inside as well and they were inside for 2 weeks in my house, I just put them outside today...

Or you mean they were outside in sun at the seller and if I didn't buy them they would go yellow inside HomeDepot too?

Not sure then if they haven't been outside in the sun.   Maybe water - You can water those a ton outside.

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YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@tntropics - 60+ In-ground 7A palms - (Sabal) minor(7 large + 27 seedling size, 3 dwarf),  brazoria(1) , birmingham(4), etonia (1) louisiana(5), palmetto (1), riverside (1),  (Trachycarpus) fortunei(7), wagnerianus(1),  Rhapidophyllum hystrix(7),  18' Mule-Butia x Syagrus(1),  Blue Butia odorata (1) +Tons of tropical plants.  Recent Yearly Lows -6F, -1F, 12F, 11F, 18F, 16F, 3F, 3F, 6F, 3F, 1F, 16F, 17F, 6F, 8F

 

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Btw, the average night temperature here is 45F, but the lowest will be 38F (for like 1 hour). Is that ok, or I should take them inside?

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Planted palms: Sabal minor, W. Robusta (Mexican Fan Palm, my favourite!), Windmill, Pindo, Needle, European Fan, Sago palm, Saw Palmetto

Inside during winter: Majesty, Cat palm, Chinese fan palm, Pygmy Date palm

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1 hour ago, PashkaTLT said:

Btw, the average night temperature here is 45F, but the lowest will be 38F (for like 1 hour). Is that ok, or I should take them inside?

Both palms can take below a freeze without a frost , even in a pot. 

T J 

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T J 

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2 hours ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

Both palms can take below a freeze without a frost , even in a pot. 

I'm confused. "below a freeze without a frost" ? I don't get it.

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8 hours ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

I'm confused. "below a freeze without a frost" ? I don't get it.

probably like when i gets below freezing, but frost doesnt happen because of a light breeze or smth

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1 hour ago, Phoenix_Canariensis said:

probably like when i gets below freezing, but frost doesnt happen because of a light breeze or smth

If your in a dry area and the dew point is below freezing then it's even less to worry about. 

T J 

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T J 

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I must've had a "senior moment" when I didn't understand what was being stated. I later surmised that it was a low humidity or overhead protection event. I know from previous experiences that if actual frost doesn't settle on fronds, there's several degrees advantage.

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On 4/20/2023 at 12:44 AM, Las Palmas Norte said:

I'm confused. "below a freeze without a frost" ? I don't get it.

A frost burns the Fronds, How it does that is when the sun hits the frost it causes the cells in the Fronds to rupture. That is what kills it. At cooler temps without frost, the tree simply goes dormant.

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Majesty's are terrible house plants. They need tons of water and sunlight and fertilizer and humidity and need to be planted in a swamp essentially to survive. They are only sold because they are cheap 

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1 hour ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

Majesty's are terrible house plants. They need tons of water and sunlight and fertilizer and humidity and need to be planted in a swamp essentially to survive. They are only sold because they are cheap 

I must be the only person north of the Canadian border that has one growing well, 3 years in. It's because I have followed your criterion.

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i think mine is doing well over winter but youres does look bigger

i just separated some clusters of 2 and 3 yesterday

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I firmly believe humidity plays a big role. 

Winter low: 16F (December 2022), Summer/spring high: ~85F (March 2023). Very humid climate.

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