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Zone Pushing Palms


Brandon James

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Hey y’all, I figured we should have a tab for zone pushing, there was a lot of talk around what people do to make their favorite tropical landscapes in colder zones. For me I’ve stuck with sabal minor, needle palm and trachys but would like to try more in pots, maybe a cabbage palm or just send it with a queen palm here on the coast of Maine, Zone 6. Share your pics and zones, don’t forget the locations. 7D54E977-E2F0-4232-93A1-F8E592972376.thumb.jpeg.8387b06a560cc4253b2e7842725dd607.jpegBF985C6F-EBC2-4B66-A84E-65BA0BEDD243.thumb.jpeg.30519c13bc3b1c83d964a8808c9fddf9.jpeg
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Try washingtonia, robusta is better for wet winters but gets leaf damage at a higher temperature. Filifera likes dry sandy soil and they get leaf damage at a lower temp than the robusta, a filibusta is also good but more rare. But you would have to protect them with an insulated box and c9 lights. Foam board works well and is cheap.

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The filibusta is more hardy than both robusta and filifera, it grows way faster as well.

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Here is a 6a garden tour where he boxes in all palms for winter and has a lot of hardy tropicals or plants in pots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxpxiPzXTFg

This guy is in zone 6 as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s51askEu4Ns

Of course James Palms has been doing this for a long time (zone 5??)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glk_UDxCTn8

And zone 5 Green dragan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN4Q6LltK0c

 

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YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@tntropics - 60+ In-ground 7A palms - (Sabal) minor(7 large + 27 seedling size, 3 dwarf),  brazoria(1) , birmingham(4), etonia (1) louisiana(5), palmetto (1), riverside (1),  (Trachycarpus) fortunei(7), wagnerianus(1),  Rhapidophyllum hystrix(7),  15' Mule-Butia x Syagrus(1),  Blue Butia capitata(1) +Tons of tropical plants.  Recent Yearly Lows -1F, 12F, 11F, 18F, 16F, 3F, 3F, 6F, 3F, 1F, 16F, 17F, 6F, 8F

 

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24 minutes ago, ChicagoPalma said:

Try washingtonia, robusta is better for wet winters but gets leaf damage at a higher temperature. Filifera likes dry sandy soil and they get leaf damage at a lower temp than the robusta, a filibusta is also good but more rare. But you would have to protect them with an insulated box and c9 lights. Foam board works well and is cheap.

Filifera grow in swamps, wet canyons,  and places with high water tables. 

Filifera hibernate and don't actively  "grow" in dry sandy soil.  Part of what makes them cold hardy.

I would also venture out on a limb and say filibusta is the most common Washingtonia in the US. 

 

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Mediterranean palm. Survived(unprotected) -10f and 0f the following winter.  Rio Rancho NM zone 7b

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Thanks, I thought it was more rare.

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6 hours ago, Brandon James said:

Hey y’all, I figured we should have a tab for zone pushing, there was a lot of talk around what people do to make their favorite tropical landscapes in colder zones. For me I’ve stuck with sabal minor, needle palm and trachys but would like to try more in pots, maybe a cabbage palm or just send it with a queen palm here on the coast of Maine, Zone 6. Share your pics and zones, don’t forget the locations. 7D54E977-E2F0-4232-93A1-F8E592972376.thumb.jpeg.8387b06a560cc4253b2e7842725dd607.jpegBF985C6F-EBC2-4B66-A84E-65BA0BEDD243.thumb.jpeg.30519c13bc3b1c83d964a8808c9fddf9.jpeg
palms I have in 

 

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15 hours ago, Brandon James said:

Hey y’all, I figured we should have a tab for zone pushing, there was a lot of talk around what people do to make their favorite tropical landscapes in colder zones. For me I’ve stuck with sabal minor, needle palm and trachys but would like to try more in pots, maybe a cabbage palm or just send it with a queen palm here on the coast of Maine, Zone 6. Share your pics and zones, don’t forget the locations. 7D54E977-E2F0-4232-93A1-F8E592972376.thumb.jpeg.8387b06a560cc4253b2e7842725dd607.jpegBF985C6F-EBC2-4B66-A84E-65BA0BEDD243.thumb.jpeg.30519c13bc3b1c83d964a8808c9fddf9.jpeg
palms I have in 

Tried to load earlier. 

My indoor Butia last April with a late snow. Didn't seem to mind as long as I kept the roots from freezing. Central Indiana. 

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Pretty mild temps and early bulbs. Magnolias are about to bloom by the look of the bulging flower bulbs.

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15 hours ago, ChicagoPalma said:

The filibusta is more hardy than both robusta and filifera, it grows way faster as well.

Filibusta has so many variations. There's robusta dominant hybrids, filifera dominant hybrids & everything in between.  A pure filifera & filifera dominant hybrid (filibusta ) are going to be the most hardy but imo a pure filifera is the most hardy Washingtonia.  

Also, robusta's grow the fastest. I wouldn't say way faster just faster, as far as vertical height. 

Washingtonia are tolerant of many different soil types. Here in California we get majority of our rain during winter. This winter alot of places got 10-20" of cold winter rain and filifera's are just fine. I get snow, frost, freezes & high humidity durning winter & they're all fine here. Obviously it's totally different experiences growing filifera's in different parts of the world but just wanted to clarify filifera's tolerates of winter moisture. 

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Hesperia,Southern CA (High Desert area). Zone 8b

Elevation; about 3600 ft.

Lowest temp. I can expect each year 19/20*f lowest since I've been growing palms *13(2007) Hottest temp. Each year *106

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