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Panama Tall Coconut Update

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Here's my panama tall, collected in Isla Mujeres, Quintana Roo. This is the fastest variety I've had. It's just starting to open a new frond and another spear is coming out (Not visible in the picture)

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this is the same palm 3 months ago.

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  • 2 months later...

Nice.  I love the orangish yellow color of the petioles.

John

Mine is about 11 ft. to 11.5 ft. tall in overall height now, and survived 4 freezes and many nights in the 30'sF last winter, with protection on only 2 of those nights, but it has been slower to recover than my Green Malayan Dwarf, which makes me think the Green Malayan Dwarf may be slightly more cold hardy than the Panama Tall.  With that said, my Panama Tall is about 4 or 5 months younger, and is planted out a little further in the yard where it gets no protection from the house, whereas my Green Malayan Dwarf is planted right off the front patio, but judging by the faster and more robust recovery of my Green Malayan Dwarf, I still think it is slightly more cold hardy than the Panama Tall, which makes sense, as I have always read that the green petiole varieties of Coconut Palms are a little more cold hardy than the golden and yellow petiole varieties.

John

  • 2 months later...

Nice color!

  • 2 years later...
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After one night of 1⁰C and another one of 0⁰C for some hours.

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  • 3 months later...
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Only one new frond but looking good, they're slower when grown in shade.

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On 5/16/2026 at 11:41 AM, idontknowhatnametuse said:

Only one new frond but looking good, they're slower when grown in shade.

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What is your normal high/low temp there in °F during your coldest month, and what is the all time record low temp there?  Thanks.

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9 hours ago, MrCoconutPalm2 said:

What is your normal high/low temp there in °F during your coldest month, and what is the all time record low temp there?  Thanks.

My normal high is around 35⁰C (95⁰F)

Normal low is 3⁰C (37⁰F) but these last year but after 2021 we have been having light dips below 0⁰C.

Record low is -12⁰C (10⁰F) in the 1800's

11 hours ago, idontknowhatnametuse said:

My normal high is around 35⁰C (95⁰F)

Normal low is 3⁰C (37⁰F) but these last year but after 2021 we have been having light dips below 0⁰C.

Record low is -12⁰C (10⁰F) in the 1800's

Thanks.  Wow, normal highs of 95°F in the winter, and normal lows of 37°F???  That's HOT daytime highs and COLD nighttime lows!!!  What a temperature swing!!!

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40 minutes ago, MrCoconutPalm2 said:

Thanks.  Wow, normal highs of 95°F in the winter, and normal lows of 37°F???  That's HOT daytime highs and COLD nighttime lows!!!  What a temperature swing!!!

Oh in the winter? No, freezes are rare and we tend to have only 1 light one per year (as of 2021). The normal high on winter is around 22 and 25⁰C but sometimes we reach 35 and we have even reached 40⁰C in the middle of the winter, that season is short too.

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That's why you can find a lot of tropical stuff growing in Monterrey; Ficus trees, Delonix regia, the very common Hibiscus tiliaceus, Roystonea, Syagrus r. , Jacaranda, Cassia fistula, Pseudobombax, etc.

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Also note that 2021 and posterior freezes have only deleted half or less than the ~ 120 mature coconuts that were scattered around the city. I have registered some on iNaturalist.

15 minutes ago, idontknowhatnametuse said:

Oh in the winter? No, freezes are rare and we tend to have only 1 light one per year (as of 2021). The normal high on winter is around 22 and 25⁰C but sometimes we reach 35 and we have even reached 40⁰C in the middle of the winter, that season is short too.

That's more like it.  What are the normal low temps there in the middle of winter?

15 minutes ago, idontknowhatnametuse said:

That's why you can find a lot of tropical stuff growing in Monterrey; Ficus trees, Delonix regia, the very common Hibiscus tiliaceus, Roystonea, Syagrus r. , Jacaranda, Cassia fistula, Pseudobombax, etc.

Wow, I always thought that Monterrey was more of a chilly mountain or sub mountain type climate.

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3 minutes ago, MrCoconutPalm2 said:

That's more like it.  What are the normal low temps there in the middle of winter?

Around 11-15⁰C

15 minutes ago, idontknowhatnametuse said:

Also note that 2021 and posterior freezes have only deleted half or less than the ~ 120 mature coconuts that were scattered around the city. I have registered some on iNaturalist.

WOW, 120 of them there???  That's probably about the number of total Coconut Palms in the Rio Grande Valley prior to the Big Freeze in February 2021!!!  Do they produce mature fruits there, or are the nuts stunted due to chilly weather in the winter?

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2 minutes ago, MrCoconutPalm2 said:

Wow, I always thought that Monterrey was more of a chilly mountain or sub mountain type climate.

It's not chilly, I have been growing other stuff that requires warm temps here; Acrocomia, Bactris, Attalea, Sabal yapa, Syagrus sancona, etc.

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2 minutes ago, MrCoconutPalm2 said:

WOW, 120 of them there???  That's probably about the number of total Coconut Palms in the Rio Grande Valley prior to the Big Freeze in February 2021!!!  Do they produce mature fruits there, or are the nuts stunted due to chilly weather in the winter?

Some used to produce mature nuts, but I have not seen any producing fruit after the freeze.

1 minute ago, idontknowhatnametuse said:

Around 11-15⁰C

With normal lows like that in the wintertime, that puts you on par with coastal South Florida, which means your area is is a lot more tropical than I ever thought it was.

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This was the best looking one in town after 2021, that photo is a 2022 street view. Even flowering, obviously a tall variety. There are more good looking ones now 5 years after that freeze obviously.

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1 minute ago, idontknowhatnametuse said:

It's not chilly, I have been growing other stuff that requires warm temps here; Acrocomia, Bactris, Attalea, Sabal yapa, Syagrus sancona, etc.

Wow, cool.  Coconuts are my favorites, so I am fascinated that you can grow them to that extent that far inland near the mountains.  I have heard of mature fruit producing ones in the Guadalajara area at fairly high altitude for Coconut Palms, but their latitude is further south too.

1 minute ago, idontknowhatnametuse said:

This was the best looking one in town after 2021, that photo is a 2022 street view. Even flowering, obviously a tall variety. There are more good looking ones now 5 years after that freeze obviously.

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Nice one.  Do you know the variety?

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2 minutes ago, MrCoconutPalm2 said:

Nice one.  Do you know the variety?

I'm not 100% sure but the robustness screams 'Jamaican Tall'

11 minutes ago, idontknowhatnametuse said:

I'm not 100% sure but the robustness screams 'Jamaican Tall'

Not a Mexican Tall?  The variety originally derived from the Jamaican Tall, probably a couple of hundred years ago, that grows in Matamoros and along the coast down to the Bay of Campeche.

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3 minutes ago, MrCoconutPalm2 said:

Not a Mexican Tall?  The variety originally derived from the Jamaican Tall, probably a couple of hundred years ago, that grows in Matamoros and along the coast down to the Bay of Campeche.

Could be but I don't really know how to identify a mexican tall.

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