Trachycarpus wagnerianus/fortunei distance to wall

[ThePole]

Hello everyone

I am planning to install a trachycarpus (either fortunei or wagnerianus, preferably the latter) next to a wall in my garden. As I am located in 6b hardiness zone, house walls are my huge friends as they provide a bit of warm air in the winter.

I was wondering how far should those palms be installed not to get their leaves interrupted by the wall?

Kind regards

Maciej

[Allen]

Well fronds on adults can be 4-5 feet so to clear wall you need to go that range or higher.  Palm over time may lean away from wall.  I have 3 fortunei about 2 feet away which is a distance I like..  clearing wall vs cold protection dilemma 

[ThePole]

11 minutes ago, Allen said:

Well fronds on adults can be 4-5 feet so to clear wall you need to go that range or higher.  Palm over time may lean away from wall.  I have 3 fortunei about 2 feet away which is a distance I like..  clearing wall vs cold protection dilemma 

Nice. Do you have pics? I don't care about the whole getting a bit dirty, but I wouldn't like the leaves to look bad or too folded

[teddytn]

Closer the better for protection from cold. Roots touching the foundation is very good in my opinion. Here’s a waggie I recently planted. 

[Allen]

 

[Las Palmas Norte]

15 hours ago, ThePole said:

I was wondering how far should those palms be installed not to get their leaves interrupted by the wall?

The biggest problem could very well be overhead interference, and not so much proximity to a wall.

Don't let this happen.

[teddytn]

1 hour ago, Allen said:

 

Insane for a cold hardy palm to have that fast of growth. It’s way bigger in person than it seems in that clip too. The Allen cold protection method and the Allen growth method lol, need to market that 🤔😂

[steve617]

Allen, has lots of good videos. He knows his stuff.

[ThePole]

Thank you everyone! That was very helpful!

[ThePole]

I think I'll plant it here. Will it be fine?

[teddytn]

5 hours ago, ThePole said:

I think I'll plant it here. Will it be fine?

The house will block some wind at that distance, I don’t know how much help with the cold it’ll get, not much if I had to guess. It’ll be fine for sure though as long as you plan on protecting it if you’re 6b

[ThePole]

47 minutes ago, teddytn said:

The house will block some wind at that distance, I don’t know how much help with the cold it’ll get, not much if I had to guess. It’ll be fine for sure though as long as you plan on protecting it if you’re 6b

Thank you. Of course it will be protected when needed. Although when I live is quite warm for 6b. Last year we had around 3 nights that would require heating up a palm.

Do you think it can be even closer to the wall than I suggested?

[teddytn]

1 hour ago, ThePole said:

Thank you. Of course it will be protected when needed. Although when I live is quite warm for 6b. Last year we had around 3 nights that would require heating up a palm.

Do you think it can be even closer to the wall than I suggested?

Other people will have a difference in opinions. Being that palm roots are not intrusive and aren’t going to crack apart your foundation, and the trunks of Trachycarpus staying slim. If it was my house I would plant it in that rock bed against the house. Next best would be where the middle wood planter is against the rock bed. An animal or person if forced to sleep outside in the worst winter weather would by instinct lay against the foundation, that’s the best possible microclimate. The pic I posted above of that wagnerianus was growing in a 7 gallon pot, the roots are right against the foundation. I’ve got a bunch of sabals, and now a bunch of trachys all planted the same way around 3 sides of my house.

[ThePole]

49 minutes ago, teddytn said:

Other people will have a difference in opinions. Being that palm roots are not intrusive and aren’t going to crack apart your foundation, and the trunks of Trachycarpus staying slim. If it was my house I would plant it in that rock bed against the house. Next best would be where the middle wood planter is against the rock bed. An animal or person if forced to sleep outside in the worst winter weather would by instinct lay against the foundation, that’s the best possible microclimate. The pic I posted above of that wagnerianus was growing in a 7 gallon pot, the roots are right against the foundation. I’ve got a bunch of sabals, and now a bunch of trachys all planted the same way around 3 sides of my house.

Thank you!