imagine if michigan was like this

[A User on Palmtalk]

Edited August 15, 2022 by A User on Palmtalk

[DTS]

that would be nice being in zone 8

[kinzyjr]

@A User on Palmtalk <humor> if you can convince Canada that they'd be better off as open ocean, it's possible. </humor>

 

[Silas_Sancona]

6 minutes ago, kinzyjr said:

@A User on Palmtalk <humor> if you can convince Canada that they'd be better off as open ocean, it's possible. </humor>

 

If zone 8 ( 8b esp. ) reaches Michigan, i wonder what zone  -whats left-  of Florida would be, ..14? 15? ( Does a zone 15 even exist?, lol )  Zone 10 in Kansas might be nice though, ..i think, haha. 

[kinzyjr]

2 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

If zone 8 ( 8b esp. ) reaches Michigan, i wonder what zone  -whats left-  of Florida would be, ..14? 15? ( Does a zone 15 even exist?, lol )  Zone 10 in Kansas might be nice though, ..i think, haha. 

The highest zone I put in my database check table is 13b.

OK, we can't go higher than that because I don't want to write insert statements or do an Excel/CSV upload.

[Silas_Sancona]

10 minutes ago, kinzyjr said:

The highest zone I put in my database check table is 13b.

OK, we can't go higher than that because I don't want to write insert statements or do an Excel/CSV upload.

 

I believe the 2012 plant maps map of Mexico lists a zone 14, though i don't recall finding a blip of it on the map..  15, if it exists, would means no lows below 80F..

[kinzyjr]

The islands of Lake Wales, Lakeland, and Sugarloaf would be quite mild

[Aceraceae]

Several equatorial islands and atolls don't go below 70 ever.  And that's record lows not just mean minimum. And the death valley of ethiopia, the 400 foot below sea level Danakil Depression (-130 meters), with the sulfuric salt mining ghost town of Dallol, the hottest place on earth, with an average annual temp of 35c 95 f, a tropical desert at only 14° latitude, also doesn't go below 70. Mean minimums in these places might be above 75. Many houses don't go below, or much above 70 either. In very hot places without air conditioning they might go from 70 to 100, mimicking an outdoor zone 14. No place outside of a volcanic or coal seam fire vent doesn't go below 80. 

The average low in Dallol and Nauru in winter is 25c 77 f. Nauru is the highest oceanicity tropical climate on Earth. Every month the average low is 77. 

Edited August 16, 2022 by Aceraceae

[A User on Palmtalk]

6 minutes ago, Aceraceae said:

Several equatorial islands and atolls don't go below 70 ever.  And that's record lows not just mean minimum. And the death valley of ethiopia, the 400 foot below sea level Danakil Depression, with the sulfuric salt mining ghost town of Dallol, the hottest place on earth, with an average annual temp of 35c 95 f, a tropical desert at only 14° latitude, also doesn't go below 70. Mean minimums in these places might be above 75. Many houses don't go below, or much above 70 either. In very hot places without air conditioning they might go from 70 to 100, mimicking an outdoor zone 14. No place outside of a volcanic or coal seam fire vent doesn't go below 80. 

man thats too warm for me

[A User on Palmtalk]

also a zone 8 upper michigan lmao

[Aceraceae]

1 hour ago, Silas_Sancona said:

If zone 8 ( 8b esp. ) reaches Michigan, i wonder what zone  -whats left-  of Florida would be, ..14? 15? ( Does a zone 15 even exist?, lol )  Zone 10 in Kansas might be nice though, ..i think, haha. 

If the Great lakes didn't freeze over at all, as some of them already usually don't most years, there would be a better oceanic effect in the Northeast. Lake Erie gets very warm in the summer but it's so shallow that it's the first to freeze over. Superior, then Huron, then Michigan, then Lake Ontario is the last to freeze. 

However there's a temperature compression effect where the poles and the winter time would warm more than the equatorial summer. So if zone 8 reached the Northern tier, Florida would probably just be zone 9b to 12 and 13 in the lower keys.