MarkbVet Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) All this talk of hybrids makes me greedy... I am sooo tempted by Bismarckia nobilis, once i move to So. Oregon. Yeah, it's still zone 8-9....but it's a fairly quick growing palm especially when larger. I know I could cover / heat with Christmas lights when small, the challenge is when larger. Perhaps I could treat it as a semi-deciduous plant, kinda like a banana plant, and maybe just cut all the leaves off each fall when too large to cover, then wrap the trunk and apex + lights. It could leaf out in spring and maybe look good by summer? Probably not, unless it grows really fast. And the trauma of losing all the leaves each year might really stunt it, IF it lived. Hey, it's a dream ok. Those trees look friggin' fabulous. Probably will never have one. Edited January 31, 2022 by MarkbVet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trustandi Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 @MarkbVet I am not sure about the hardiness, there is no data about it yet. I am assuming it will be the hardiest mule. It survives but I protected it in the ground this year. The lowest temperature it has experienced unprotected and no damage is 27f in a pot in February 2021. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkbVet Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Trustandi said: @MarkbVet I am not sure about the hardiness, there is no data about it yet. I am assuming it will be the hardiest mule. It survives but I protected it in the ground this year. The lowest temperature it has experienced unprotected and no damage is 27f in a pot in February 2021. I'd expect the Jxb xQ to be hardier, just because the original mother plant was Jubaea, but hey, who knows? I hope you're right and this BxJ x BxQ is really good, sure looks cool (let's hope they tend to look like the one in your larger picture, VERY nice!) Looks like a lot of Queen influence as far as phenotype/appearance. Edited January 31, 2022 by MarkbVet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkbVet Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Love them palms said: BJxBS,and a couple of Jubaea x butia yatay liners He's not listing BxJ x BxS unless i'm missing something... love to get one if i'm mistaken. Is that the 5 gal plants you were saying he had? Edited January 31, 2022 by MarkbVet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love them palms Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 5 hours ago, MarkbVet said: He's not listing BxJ x BxS unless i'm missing something... love to get one if i'm mistaken. Is that the 5 gal plants you were saying he had? it's one of his larger sizes. all the ones on the list are liners he has. he has the one I mentioned in 5g also 5g BxPJC and a BxPJT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love them palms Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 8 hours ago, MarkbVet said: @Love them palms Are there more available do you know? not really sure what amount Patrick has of BJXBS. he sent his reply of what he had when I asked what he had in 5g. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen Munk Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 17 hours ago, MarkbVet said: I am sooo tempted by Bismarckia nobilis, once i move to So. Oregon. Yeah, it's still zone 8-9....but it's a fairly quick growing palm especially when larger. I have a couple of Bismarkia in Salem. They are two years old from seed and only two strap leaves. They only grow quick in the heat. Mine have been growing at a glacial pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWpalms@206 Posted February 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 21 hours ago, Love them palms said: I would like to get a Butia x parajubea sunkha too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse PNW Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, NWpalms@206 said: You can't just post that without some kind of descriptive verbage.... Is that up here somewhere? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWpalms@206 Posted February 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jesse PNW said: You can't just post that without some kind of descriptive verbage.... Is that up here somewhere? Haha sorry that pic is a bit deceiving, it’s only about 4-5ft tall. On a deck rail. And shot from low angle. I didn’t realize it looked like a 15ft BxSunkha til just now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse PNW Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 You got me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkbVet Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 16 hours ago, Love them palms said: it's one of his larger sizes. all the ones on the list are liners he has. he has the one I mentioned in 5g also 5g BxPJC and a BxPJT Thanks! any idea what he's charging for those? I can ask him directly if you'd prefer. I imagine shipping adds a bit too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkbVet Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Fallen Munk said: I have a couple of Bismarkia in Salem. They are two years old from seed and only two strap leaves. They only grow quick in the heat. Mine have been growing at a glacial pace. Yes I've read that they are slow when small anyway... but pick up speed (moderate to fast growth) later...like a lot of palms I guess. Heat and sun would certainly help...my quandry is how to address protection when larger (and they do get large). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWpalms@206 Posted February 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, MarkbVet said: Thanks! any idea what he's charging for those? I can ask him directly if you'd prefer. I imagine shipping adds a bit too. That 5gal BxPJT is probably a beast. My jxb 5gal could have been in a 20 gal and not looked too small. I think the shipping on my 5gal was like 105 or 125? Something in that range. Edited February 1, 2022 by NWpalms@206 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkbVet Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, NWpalms@206 said: That 5gal BxPJT is probably a beast. My jxb 5gal could have been in a 20 gal and not looked too small. I'll have to ask him what he's got in 5 gal. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 11 hours ago, MarkbVet said: I'll have to ask him what he's got in 5 gal. :-) Curious too. I’d like to get a bigger JxB from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWpalms@206 Posted February 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 8:42 PM, MarkbVet said: I'll have to ask him what he's got in 5 gal. :-) On 2/1/2022 at 8:00 AM, RJ said: Curious too. I’d like to get a bigger JxB from him. Anything cool on the way yet?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love them palms Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, NWpalms@206 said: Anything cool on the way yet?! I have 2 4x10 Butia yatay x Queen and a 5g BJxBQ coming from Patric .should be here in a couple days 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWpalms@206 Posted February 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Love them palms said: I have 2 4x10 Butia yatay x Queen and a 5g BJxBQ coming from Patric .should be here in a couple days Nice! post pics when you can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love them palms Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Just now, NWpalms@206 said: Nice! post pics when you can! yes I will. can't wait to see how the BJxBQ looks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWpalms@206 Posted February 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Love them palms said: yes I will. can't wait to see how the BJxBQ looks I think i may inquire about that as well, do you know if he had more of that 5gal bjxbq? and what was the cost of that one if you dont mind my asking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love them palms Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 28 minutes ago, NWpalms@206 said: I think i may inquire about that as well, do you know if he had more of that 5gal bjxbq? and what was the cost of that one if you dont mind my asking? 175 + 105 shipping 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWpalms@206 Posted February 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 26 minutes ago, Love them palms said: 175 + 105 shipping Right on thanks. Same as my 5gal JubxButia was, which is well worth it for the size. Waiting on a response now hope there is another one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkbVet Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 4 hours ago, NWpalms@206 said: Anything cool on the way yet?! Patrick said he'd get back to me, haven't heard yet. Just got a baby C. humilis 'vulcano' arrival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWpalms@206 Posted February 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, MarkbVet said: Patrick said he'd get back to me, haven't heard yet. Just got a baby C. humilis 'vulcano' arrival. That’s another one I’d like. Kinda Hope you get that BxPJT because I like to live vicariously through others palm pics, Mines not very impressive….YET! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love them palms Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 first of 2 shipments from Patrick. 2 Butia yatay x Queen 20220204_165037.mp4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse PNW Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 4 hours ago, MarkbVet said: Patrick said he'd get back to me, haven't heard yet. Just got a baby C. humilis 'vulcano' arrival. Is that coming from Patrick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWpalms@206 Posted February 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Love them palms said: first of 2 shipments from Patrick. 2 Butia yatay x Queen 20220204_165037.mp4 Nice choice. I’m liking the yatay x Queen. Like mine, yours are about busting out of the pots ready for the earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkbVet Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Jesse PNW said: Is that coming from Patrick? No, it came from Desertscape in Oregon. Nice little plant, looks definitely 'vulcano' type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 16 hours ago, Love them palms said: I have 2 4x10 Butia yatay x Queen and a 5g BJxBQ coming from Patric .should be here in a couple days I had this bjxbq until this summer. It’s an interesting looking palm. For some reason mine got crown rot over the summer and died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love them palms Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 9 hours ago, RJ said: I had this bjxbq until this summer. It’s an interesting looking palm. For some reason mine got crown rot over the summer and died. Just got my 5g BJXBS today Jubaea side looks strong from the leaf tips. why are Patrick Schafer 5g so nice and big. just love the generous portions 20220205_115502.mp4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, Love them palms said: Just got my 5g BJXBS today Jubaea side looks strong from the leaf tips. why are Patrick Schafer 5g so nice and big. just love the generous portions That palm is super sweet! YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@tntropics - 60+ In-ground 7A palms - (Sabal) minor(7 large + 27 seedling size, 3 dwarf), brazoria(1) , birmingham(4), etonia (1) louisiana(5), palmetto (1), riverside (1), (Trachycarpus) fortunei(7), wagnerianus(1), Rhapidophyllum hystrix(7), 15' Mule-Butia x Syagrus(1), Blue Butia capitata(1) +Tons of tropical plants. Recent Yearly Lows -1F, 12F, 11F, 18F, 16F, 3F, 3F, 6F, 3F, 1F, 16F, 17F, 6F, 8F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love them palms Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 42 minutes ago, Allen said: That palm is super sweet! it is a nice looking one. Patrick Schafer has some beauties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trustandi Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, Love them palms said: it is a nice looking one. Patrick Schafer has some beauties Wow.. nice palm. It is very beautiful, indeed! On 2/4/2022 at 8:24 AM, NWpalms@206 said: Anything cool on the way yet?! I order a B/J x S and Brahea moorei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWpalms@206 Posted February 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Trustandi said: Wow.. nice palm. It is very beautiful, indeed! I order a B/J x S and Brahea moorei. Nice! Pics when they arrive! His B/Jx S, 4x10” are very nice, the one on the right. Edited February 5, 2022 by NWpalms@206 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWpalms@206 Posted February 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Love them palms said: Just got my 5g BJXBS today Jubaea side looks strong from the leaf tips. why are Patrick Schafer 5g so nice and big. just love the generous portions 20220205_115502.mp4 43.44 MB · 0 downloads It’s got hooked leaftips and armed petioles. Very nice balance of B and J. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love them palms Posted February 5, 2022 Report Share Posted February 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, NWpalms@206 said: It’s got hooked leaftips and armed petioles. Very nice balance of B and J. very nice trunk as well. trying to figure more Butia or Jubaea side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dartolution Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 7 hours ago, Love them palms said: Just got my 5g BJXBS today Jubaea side looks strong from the leaf tips. why are Patrick Schafer 5g so nice and big. just love the generous portions 20220205_115502.mp4 43.44 MB · 0 downloads This is flat out envious! Absolutely glorious. I wish I had the room for this one. goodness! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love them palms Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 17 minutes ago, Dartolution said: This is flat out envious! Absolutely glorious. I wish I had the room for this one. goodness! it is a beautiful tree.one of Patricks finest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 Mine eventually lost it’s hooks . was a Vigorous grower for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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