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Mexican fan palms


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I have a opportunity to buy a Mexican fan palm.  Nice size, in a 15 gal pot.

4 to 5 ft.

I'm in Greenville  SC 29611.

7b . I'm a little concerned about buying due to freeze . Any thoughts appreciated.

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@James Robert

It will definitely need protected at some point.  In the southeast, they don't do too well once it goes below 20F.

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Lakeland, FL

USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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It's only going to be temporary, so it's really up to you if you want to spend the money on a 1 or 2 year rental.  They grow fast, so it will outgrow a protectable size relatively quickly.  7b is what, like 5 degrees min temp?  Even with protection the cold will take its toll.  

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Love this forum. Thanks for the quick response. Was very tempted to go back to buy both of them this morning. 

I will pass on those. Thanks so much. 

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Buy it if you like it, you can always containerize it.  I have Queens, Washys, Dates, Butias and large cycads in NJ/Zone 7A/B.  

They are all in large, plastic tubs and get dragged into my garage by early December and reerge in March, otherwise concentrate on cold

hardier species..., Sabals, Trachycarpus, Chamaerops perhaps. Good luck!

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9 hours ago, James Robert said:

Love this forum. Thanks for the quick response. Was very tempted to go back to buy both of them this morning. 

I will pass on those. Thanks so much. 

More likely than not it's a filibusta, but if it is a true robusta, yes it will be difficult to achieve.

I looked at NOAA data for Greenville and it turns out Greenville is a warm 8a, with an average annual minimum of 14f for the years 1992-2021.

So if it is a warm 8a, a filibusta is plausible. Keep in mind it would have to be protected under 17 degrees or thereabouts.

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I am in zone 8b TEXAS, I had more Tall washingtonia than anyone on this hardy message board I think. This winter killed them.
I was watching TV filmed in Los Angeles, and it was the first time it sunk in what a terrible loss this was For me, after seeing their heathy ones and filling a real gut punch to my years of gardening gone.

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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15 hours ago, Collectorpalms said:

I am in zone 8b TEXAS, I had more Tall washingtonia than anyone on this hardy message board I think. This winter killed them.
I was watching TV filmed in Los Angeles, and it was the first time it sunk in what a terrible loss this was For me, after seeing their heathy ones and filling a real gut punch to my years of gardening gone.

I thought you said most of the taller ones were showing signs of life about a week or two ago? I know the tall Sylvestris is trying to come back, which is great, but I thought a few of the tall washies were as well? Or are they all totally kaput? Surely one of them must have survived, given your degree of spring warm-up? And if not, how are you going to remove them now?

Maybe just go all out with Filifera from here on. Get hold of some NM seed, or some seed from one of the guys out in Utah. Or just try and get some pure Filifera in general. It's unfortunate that your current ones are either Robusta's or Robusta dominant hybrids. If they were Filifera dominant hybrids, let alone pure Filifera, they probably would have survived. So that must be frustrating AF for you. It also reminds me that my own Robusta's are on borrowed time here, although mine are a fraction of the size of your ones.

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Dry-summer Oceanic / Warm summer Med (Csb) - 9a

Average annual precipitation - 18.7 inches : Average annual sunshine hours - 1725

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From what I am seeing, a lot of the filifera (and mixes) are returning, however, the vast majority of thin trunked (and often tall) W Mexicana's are still not showing any sign of life. The Brazos valley thread has some pictures of survivors that appear mexicana-dominant, however, you can count them on one hand.  
:)

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On 6/5/2021 at 8:22 AM, James Robert said:

I have a opportunity to buy a Mexican fan palm.  Nice size, in a 15 gal pot.

4 to 5 ft.

I'm in Greenville  SC 29611.

7b . I'm a little concerned about buying due to freeze . Any thoughts appreciated.

They take down walls. Here's one I saw in North Hollywood CA. Give it lots of space. It can swallow your house. 

 

 

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Thanks, everyone,  still after all these comments,  I'm going to continue with the pindo and windmill. 

If I can do a sabal palmetto palm,  that I would try.

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9 hours ago, HiwaKika said:

They take down walls. Here's one I saw in North Hollywood CA. Give it lots of space. It can swallow your house. 

 

 

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Looks crazy that big of a palm in that small of a pot, has to be rooted into the ground through the drain holes

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When is the last true zone 7 winter youve had?

Temps seem to be trending UP UP UP

Here in central Utah we are on week 2 of triple digit heat...and it is barely JUNE !

 

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This past winter here in Greenville SC,

Has been very cold, several days below freezing in a row. 

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I wouldn’t do it. Too tender for your location. They grow very fast, so they will outgrow protection before too long. I have to cut down a 40 foot Robusta I lost in the freeze. Approaching mid June with no sign of growth, and I am borderline zone 9a. I planted if 16 or 17 years ago. It grew that fast. I planted another one recently, but we’re a lot warmer than you on average. A lot of Robusta were slaughtered in Texas. 

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