(Butia x jubea) x s. schizophylla

[floridaPalmMan]

I was fortunate enough to grab some mule palms from Moultrie Palms in St. Augustine a few weeks back.

Since I knew a bit about palms (thanks to palmtalk), Frank & Elaine showed my wife and I around the rest of the grounds and the work he was doing.

He had his mules all over but in the special section of his squirrel cage, he had butia x jubeas as well as a dozen of these butia x jubea x schizophylla in which he let us take one of them. 

If I recall correctly, he used the seeds from a butia x jubea and pollinated them with a syagrus schizophylla. I could be wrong about the hybridization process but I think that was what he said. He also made sure I understood he has no idea how this palm will turn out or which set of genetics will end up being the most prominent.

But I thought it was pretty cool and figured people here would be interested in following the progress of this hybrid as the years go by.

It's going to stay potted for now but enough of me talking... here are some pics.

 

 

 

 

Edited May 27, 2021 by floridaPalmMan

[Palmarum]

A cool three-way cross...

In however way it ends up appearing, it will be unique.

Ryan

[Fusca]

1 hour ago, floridaPalmMan said:

If I recall correctly, he used the seeds from a butia x jubea and pollinated them with a syagrus schizophylla.

Typically the mother palm is listed first in the name of a hybrid palm.  So if the name is correct and it is a (Butia x Jubaea) x Syagrus schizophylla then the mother palm is the Butia x Jubaea hybrid.  In other words pollen from male flowers was collected from the Syagrus and the female flowers of the BxJ were hand-pollinated with it.  Then the fruits created from this pollination would contain seeds used to grow the resulting hybrid.  If he used pollen from the BxJ to pollinate the Syagrus then it should be labeled as Syagrus schizophylla x (Butia x Jubaea) but from your description it sounds like they have multiple BxJ on site to use as the mother palm so seems to me that the original name is correct.  Nice looking palm!

[howfam]

On 5/27/2021 at 9:07 AM, floridaPalmMan said:

I was fortunate enough to grab some mule palms from Moultrie Palms in St. Augustine a few weeks back.

Since I knew a bit about palms (thanks to palmtalk), Frank & Elaine showed my wife and I around the rest of the grounds and the work he was doing.

He had his mules all over but in the special section of his squirrel cage, he had butia x jubeas as well as a dozen of these butia x jubea x schizophylla in which he let us take one of them. 

If I recall correctly, he used the seeds from a butia x jubea and pollinated them with a syagrus schizophylla. I could be wrong about the hybridization process but I think that was what he said. He also made sure I understood he has no idea how this palm will turn out or which set of genetics will end up being the most prominent.

But I thought it was pretty cool and figured people here would be interested in following the progress of this hybrid as the years go by.

It's going to stay potted for now but enough of me talking... here are some pics.

 

 

 

 

Well it's been more than a year since you started this topic. How 'bout an update on this palm. I hope by now you've put it in the ground. It's more than big enough to be planted out. 

[floridaPalmMan]

On 8/13/2022 at 11:13 AM, howfam said:

Well it's been more than a year since you started this topic. How 'bout an update on this palm. I hope by now you've put it in the ground. It's more than big enough to be planted out. 

Nope not in the ground yet. I still can't decide a permanent location on my current property so here it sits with the rest of my potted palms.

It's throw out a few new fronds this growing season... but everything on my property got slowed down quite a bit when as got hit with a nasty fungus this spring/summer but luckily Banrot saved the day there.

Anyway, here it is.. one year later.

[floridaPalmMan]

So this last year has been a battle in which I've lost several palms to bud rot.

2022 was a really depressing year for me as far as palming goes.

Banrot and many MANY hydrogen peroxide applications have pulled a few palms through.

This is one of the palms that fought off and survived the sad, slow and painful death spiral that bud rot causes.

I will however say this, hydrogen peroxide sprayed directly into the heart of the palm does better than any fancy or expensive fungicides.

In this same time period, I was able to acquire the plot next to me so this palm finally has a place in the ground to go.

These pics are simply of the new growth thats exploded this summer from almost an entire year of no growth.

The next set of pics will be this palm in its permanent location.

[JLM]

On 6/30/2023 at 5:02 PM, floridaPalmMan said:

So this last year has been a battle in which I've lost several palms to bud rot.

2022 was a really depressing year for me as far as palming goes.

Banrot and many MANY hydrogen peroxide applications have pulled a few palms through.

This is one of the palms that fought off and survived the sad, slow and painful death spiral that bud rot causes.

I will however say this, hydrogen peroxide sprayed directly into the heart of the palm does better than any fancy or expensive fungicides.

In this same time period, I was able to acquire the plot next to me so this palm finally has a place in the ground to go.

These pics are simply of the new growth thats exploded this summer from almost an entire year of no growth.

The next set of pics will be this palm in its permanent location.

Update? I imagine it has done well in the ground!

[floridaPalmMan]

On 8/13/2024 at 11:54 PM, JLM said:

Update? I imagine it has done well in the ground!

I have no idea what's going on with this guy.

It's been in the ground for 6-ish months now and all of the new fronds have stunted growth but several are pushing out. The color of them is an amazing blue-ish color but nothing looks like its doing good.

 

[jwitt]

Setting roots!

 

[MobileBayGarden]

Any updates?

[gyuseppe]

a nice hybrid, unfortunately in Europe there are none

[sonoranfans]

might just be a slow growing hybrid.  Might be a few years, jubaeas are slow and so are butias and s. schizophylla.  I have two hybrids BxJ and (BxJ)xJ , nothing fast about them.  I estimate BxJ at 8-12 inches overall height a year for 12 years, my (BxJ)xJ is a bit slower.

[MobileBayGarden]

I actually have the same hybrid and it is has really taken off. It's developing the same beautiful blue color and the recurved fronds are all starting to twist to the side.