Aleitalyyy Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 good morning guys and passionate friends. today the Ligurian coconut is spent the day out after a welcome wash of the leaves full of dust in the house. I would say it is going very well and I hope this year has a big change. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleitalyyy Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 good morning my Dutch coconut now grown is put out in the sun with minimum temperatures of 15 ° / 22 ° degrees after having given blue chemical fertilizer and an anti-mold on the nut with a little salt in the stem and on the ground it is ready for the property.... how are the coconuts of mortar? updates ... a greeting to everyone from Italy of by Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltese coconut project Posted May 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 I am almost restarting the experiment again. I am also giving chance for the two big ones hopefully they might have the heart of the palm still alive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ego Posted May 4, 2022 Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Maltese coconut project said: I am almost restarting the experiment again. I am also giving chance for the two big ones hopefully they might have the heart of the palm still alive Are all these new plants? None survived from last year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltese coconut project Posted May 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2022 (edited) The ones in the photos I took from the paludariums and planted in pots on the 27th April. I have 3 older specimens which I am not sure whether they survived or not.. They had their leaves dried and therefore pruned but they also have a pre winter spear.. I will hope a new spear will come out.. Cold wind did a lot of damage this winter and we had an unusually long cool season Edited May 4, 2022 by Maltese coconut project 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleitalyyy Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 dear you should also try planting a few palm trees in the ground in the garden ... so that the roots go deep and the palm grows faster and faster than the one in the pot! then with the arrival of the intervention cover with transparent plastic sheets and leave the roof open .... I would do so, so that you also have the proof of understanding in the open ground how the palm behaves ... besides the fact that if it survives the winter you have a plant with strong and deep roots in the ground ... therefore a vegetative restart much faster in spring ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleitalyyy Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 try even just with 2 palm trees ... you put them in the garden already now, in the sun and then with the arrival of winter you build a structure, or you buy those mountable greenhouses that in my part are about 40 euros .... (I don't know in Malta how much they cost) you would be sure that the wind does not burn them in winter ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltese coconut project Posted May 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 The biggest mistake I did is that I didn't experiment at least one of the big ones in the garden downstairs.. It would have been protected from the wind.. The only concern is limited sunshine and light 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ego Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 I think an easy greenhouse would be a good idea for the winter. Mostly for the wind, not so much for the temperature increase. They are so small itwill be easy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltese coconut project Posted May 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 The only coconut palm specimen that survived outdoors this winter (and with help of a huge transparent plastic bag that acted as a mini greenhouse). This winter was exceptionally cooler in the Mediterranean. The mistakes that I suspect are the following: 1) In summer I put the specimens under North facing wall for early morning and late evening sun only.. This really boosted very beautiful and quick growth but on the downside they weren't exposed to extreme summer heat stress and therefore the leaves grew bigger but thinner, with thinner waxy cuticle, shorter palisade cells and greener. On the arrival of winter, the cold dry wind (never freezing temperatures here) killed the plants since the leaves possibly where more delicate. 2) my second mistake was not to experiment with specimens on different areas both last summer and in winter, possibly I should have put a few in the more sheltered from wind (though less sunny) garden area. I am sad to say I am almost restarting from near scratch but lessons thought. We will try again differently. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 Would it be possible to grow them in Palma, Mallorca? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltese coconut project Posted July 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/11/2022 at 12:46 AM, GottmitAlex said: Exactly. Keep it to a minimum. Watering during the "warmest" time of of the day. (Once every three, four days) 1 hour ago, Will said: Would it be possible to grow them in Palma, Mallorca? Your weather is very similar to that of Malta. I am trying here. In winter the cool northern winds are the negative factors that on the long run reduce survival rates 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltese coconut project Posted July 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 If you can find a spot in front of a south facing building to protect from northern winds and take advantage from the longest full sun period possible to provide the best microclimate possible 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottmitAlex Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 If your palms are shot enough, you may want to place a tarp above them (open on the sides) just to keep them frost free. If they are too large, then just the brood lamp. 1 Quote 5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltese coconut project Posted July 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 Here frost is rare. The long cool winter weather together with northern winter wind are the major killer for coconut palms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Posted July 16, 2022 Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 On 5/9/2022 at 8:40 AM, Aleitalyyy said: dear you should also try planting a few palm trees in the ground in the garden ... so that the roots go deep and the palm grows faster and faster than the one in the pot! then with the arrival of the intervention cover with transparent plastic sheets and leave the roof open .... I would do so, so that you also have the proof of understanding in the open ground how the palm behaves ... besides the fact that if it survives the winter you have a plant with strong and deep roots in the ground ... therefore a vegetative restart much faster in spring ... Where are you growing it? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltese coconut project Posted July 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2022 Which location are those coconut palms? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleitalyyy Posted August 2, 2022 Report Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 16/7/2022 at 13:24, Will said: Dove lo stai coltivando? are photos taken from the forum ... one is pether in australia and the other in northern florida ... guys i update with my italian coconut palm ... did you miss me? I put some pictures ... and I would like to see your palms ... hello guys 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltese coconut project Posted August 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 My coconut experiment at the moment 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleitalyyy Posted August 3, 2022 Report Share Posted August 3, 2022 if I can afford to give you dear advice put the largest immediately in the open ground in the garden ... you still have 3 months of heat and then in November you mount a cover from the winds ... the next they have you find yourself an already rooted coconut that will grow like a rocket .... so by now you have experimented in pots and you have seen the reactions of your palms ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltese coconut project Posted September 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 I am going to try to harden them as much as possible this time.. I kept them south facing for maximum sun and to develop waxier cuticle, longer palisade cells, smaller but more frequent stomata.. I plan to decrease Nitrogen slowly and increase potassium fertiliser to harden them even more for winter. I switched to potassium nitrate and calcium nitrate, then mid October I will switch to npk 3.5-12-35 pre winter. I will revert to higher Nitrogen in May 2023 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottmitAlex Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 On 5/8/2022 at 11:40 PM, Aleitalyyy said: dear you should also try planting a few palm trees in the ground in the garden ... so that the roots go deep and the palm grows faster and faster than the one in the pot! then with the arrival of the intervention cover with transparent plastic sheets and leave the roof open .... I would do so, so that you also have the proof of understanding in the open ground how the palm behaves ... besides the fact that if it survives the winter you have a plant with strong and deep roots in the ground ... therefore a vegetative restart much faster in spring ... Can you give us an update? Quote 5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltese coconut project Posted September 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 My only concern regarding planting in the ground is that the back garden only receives sun from around 11.30am to 2 pm due to a 5 storey wall on the west side and our 2 storey house on the east side.. Will it be enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottmitAlex Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 49 minutes ago, Maltese coconut project said: My only concern regarding planting in the ground is that the back garden only receives sun from around 11.30am to 2 pm due to a 5 storey wall on the west side and our 2 storey house on the east side.. Will it be enough? It will not. Sorry. Quote 5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltese coconut project Posted September 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 On 9/24/2022 at 11:54 PM, GottmitAlex said: It will not. Sorry. I will experiment with some specimens, anyway I have quite a big quantity of seedlings at the moment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleitalyyy Posted October 4, 2022 Report Share Posted October 4, 2022 https://www.fruttama.it/forum/viewtopic.php?p=90662#p90662 good morning I leave here the link of the Italian forum with some users who are trying to grow indoor / autodoor at home! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltese coconut project Posted October 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 Middle left specimen coconut with strange leaves 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idontknowhatnametuse Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 45 minutes ago, Maltese coconut project said: Middle left specimen coconut with strange leaves That's very rare, never seen a coconut seedling that produces leaves without the V separation on them. Impressive palm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottmitAlex Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 39 minutes ago, idontknowhatnametuse said: That's very rare, never seen a coconut seedling that produces leaves without the V separation on them. Impressive palm. That is normal. Quote 5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltese coconut project Posted October 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 The one in the middle left looks strange compared to the other 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleitalyyy Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 hello dear i was in malta 4 days as a little vacation, it is beautiful malta I also liked a lot to my girlfriend! i stayed in st. giuljan and then I walked around a bit arriving in bugibba, mdina, valletta, smart city ... unfortunately I have not seen any coconut ... but where do you live in Malta? however I noticed many other very beautiful syagrus, kentia, and alexandriee palms ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltese coconut project Posted October 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 Currently in Malta I am the only one who is working hard on having coconut tree. My previous experiment failed and I am trying again. All my specimens are on the rooftop so it explains why the public cannot see them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltese coconut project Posted October 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 Here are my specimens (including other plants) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleitalyyy Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 I looked from the window of the hotel room on the 8th floor ... but I didn't see your coconut trees on the roofs ... I was in a hotel in San Giuliano in front of the roundabout with portomaso written ... . bugibba seemed to me the warmest place with low houses and small gardens that come out of the concrete facing south ... this was my feeling ... even if bugibba is further north than la veletta ... I lived there with a of those houses on the ground floor I would immediately try my coconut in the ground .... but unfortunately I am back in my Liguria .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleitalyyy Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 are you always trying Indian green cocos from lidl? I would also like to try to sprout an Indian walnut ... but I always fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltese coconut project Posted October 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 They are too small to see from St Julians to Attard.. The big ones that I managed to grow from 2019 and 2020 died last winter.. I am trying again.. The biggest current specimen is 123cm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltese coconut project Posted October 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 Yes I am using the Lidl ones. If only you told me that you were in Malta we would have contacted for you to see them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleitalyyy Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 you are right but I was always traveling by bus to visit the island and I forgot ... but I would like to go back in the future! here is my Ligurian coconut still out as long as the temperatures resist ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Maltese coconut project Posted October 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 Very beautiful. I am hoping that next winter I will be successful.. This summer I left them always South facing to harden the leaves and thicken the waxy cuticle as much as possible, have many but smaller stomata. I also gave potassium nitrate, calcium nitrate, magnesium sulfate to harden them pre winter. I will reduce watering as well and in November I will remove the underplate. I hope I will succeed this time. Winter 2020-2021 I was successful but winter 2021-2022 was a disaster except for one specimen who was covered inside a huge transparent bag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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