Fusca Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Merlyn said: Yeah Scott and @NWpalms@206 I decided on the Sunkha hybrid as an experiment. It's probably the only Parajubaea that can "sorta" tolerate the humidity in FL, so I figured it would be the best hybrid bet for good growth. I really liked the looks of the bigger BxLW hybrid posted here earlier, only 5 years from a strap leaf in TX. It wasn't in this thread, I can't remember who posted it: That's definitely @Matt N- Dallas's palm. I saw it last April @OC2Texaspalmlvr and I'm pretty sure he provided excellent protection for it and looked really good. 5 1 Jon Sunder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, Fusca said: That's definitely @Matt N- Dallas's palm. I saw it last April @OC2Texaspalmlvr and I'm pretty sure he provided excellent protection for it and looked really good. I really like the look of this hybrid. I purchased a bxhoen from Patric a couple years ago hopping it might be a bit hardier . I’m 99% sure it’s just a butia though. I don’t think he’s doing bxhoen anymore. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OC2Texaspalmlvr Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Fusca said: That's definitely @Matt N- Dallas's palm. I saw it last April @OC2Texaspalmlvr and I'm pretty sure he provided excellent protection for it and looked really good. Well I hope Matt provides an update on this palm cause it is magnificent. Way better looking palm , then the more variable mule palms T J 1 T J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusca Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 4 hours ago, RJ said: I really like the look of this hybrid. I purchased a bxhoen from Patric a couple years ago hopping it might be a bit hardier . I’m 99% sure it’s just a butia though. I don’t think he’s doing bxhoen anymore. Hope you got what it's supposed to be - would definitely be a shame if Patric couldn't provide another one. Jon Sunder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWpalms@206 Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 5 hours ago, RJ said: I really like the look of this hybrid. I purchased a bxhoen from Patric a couple years ago hopping it might be a bit hardier . I’m 99% sure it’s just a butia though. I don’t think he’s doing bxhoen anymore. Pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt N- Dallas Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 2 hours ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said: Well I hope Matt provides an update on this palm cause it is magnificent. Way better looking palm , then the more variable mule palms T J The B x Lyto Wedd pictured above lives on continues to grow in San Marcos, TX. On 02/12/21 I defoliated, wrapped w/ a heating cable, wrapped w/ cotton painter’s tarps and a waterproof tarp. The Valentine’s week cold blast brought freezing rain, 10” of snow, an ultimate low of 6*F, and extended power outages due to the failure of the TX electric grid- the coldest temps in this area since 1989. This palm and the other hybrids grew back well during 2021’s growing season. 1st pic- 04/15 2-10/20 3-07/21 4-12/21 5-12/21 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OC2Texaspalmlvr Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, Matt N- Dallas said: The B x Lyto Wedd pictured above lives on continues to grow in San Marcos, TX. Thanks Matt for the update !!! Garden looks great and your BxLytoWedd is an inspiration for all the many seedlings out there haha How much CT you think you have now ? T J T J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott W Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 14 hours ago, Matt N- Dallas said: The B x Lyto Wedd pictured above lives on continues to grow in San Marcos, TX. On 02/12/21 I defoliated, wrapped w/ a heating cable, wrapped w/ cotton painter’s tarps and a waterproof tarp. The Valentine’s week cold blast brought freezing rain, 10” of snow, an ultimate low of 6*F, and extended power outages due to the failure of the TX electric grid- the coldest temps in this area since 1989. This palm and the other hybrids grew back well during 2021’s growing season. That is a beauty for sure!!! This thread keeps making me want to email Patrix to order more....but I really need to restrain myself. Definitely will heavily consider doing this cross once my Lytocaryum start flowering consistently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWpalms@206 Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, Scott W said: That is a beauty for sure!!! This thread keeps making me want to email Patrix to order more....but I really need to restrain myself. Definitely will heavily consider doing this cross once my Lytocaryum start flowering consistently. Its tough, ill probably make it a few weeks then cave lol Id have no problem ordering a few more. Maybe another JxB if hes got one, a B x Lyto, and a yatay x queen. Excited for what he does in 2022! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trustandi Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 @NWpalms@206 i know right. I can't stop getting new palms from Patrick. He always has awesome hybrids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWpalms@206 Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 On 1/5/2022 at 9:59 AM, Trustandi said: @NWpalms@206 i know right. I can't stop getting new palms from Patrick. He always has awesome hybrids. Ya I lasted until my next paycheck haha, 3 more incoming from patrick... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trustandi Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 @NWpalms@206 does he have a new list for January? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWpalms@206 Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Trustandi said: @NWpalms@206 does he have a new list for January? Not sure, I’m still ordering off the oct list but have about exhausted it. I may check with him what his spring plans are, or an estimation on some new arrivals. Personally there’s not much more I’m after except pure Jubaea, jubaea x queen (#1), and maybe some trachy hybrids. And specifically Rich Lindbergs jubutia F3 x queen. The JxQ is gonna be tough to come up with. This round is Jubaea x yatay, yatay x queen, and another (B/J) x Q. Edited January 18, 2022 by NWpalms@206 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWpalms@206 Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 I wanted the Bxlyto but If I’m not mistaken the one pictured above was found to be less hardy than a standard mule. I gotta keep my heavy protection palms to a minimum or winter will be too stressful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt N- Dallas Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 On 1/4/2022 at 8:02 PM, OC2Texaspalmlvr said: Thanks Matt for the update !!! Garden looks great and your BxLytoWedd is an inspiration for all the many seedlings out there haha How much CT you think you have now ? T J Thank you! The B x Lyto Wedd. has 9’ of trunk currently. The first two growing seasons - growth seemed slow, then the last four - she grew like a rocket. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWpalms@206 Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 43 minutes ago, Matt N- Dallas said: Thank you! The B x Lyto Wedd. has 9’ of trunk currently. The first two growing seasons - growth seemed slow, then the last four - she grew like a rocket. Was I correct that it was observed to be less hardy than a standard mule? I thought i read that you had more severe damage on the lyto as compared to BXQ... has this kept true, or was that as a younger palm? I really like this palm but worried its gonna be too high maintenance in cold. So i went with the yatay mule which seems to have very similar visual appeal as the Lyto mule, but maybe slightly more cold tolerant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnAndSancho Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Matt N- Dallas said: Thank you! The B x Lyto Wedd. has 9’ of trunk currently. The first two growing seasons - growth seemed slow, then the last four - she grew like a rocket. Here's mine. Put it in a 2gal pot when it showed up. Pretty sure it wants a repot in the spring - it's got some weight for such a small palm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OC2Texaspalmlvr Posted January 19, 2022 Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 5 hours ago, Matt N- Dallas said: Thank you! The B x Lyto Wedd. has 9’ of trunk currently. The first two growing seasons - growth seemed slow, then the last four - she grew like a rocket. Dang 9' CT that has to be the tallest BxLytoWedd out there Nice growing T J T J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkbVet Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) On 1/17/2022 at 4:37 PM, NWpalms@206 said: Not sure, I’m still ordering off the oct list but have about exhausted it. I may check with him what his spring plans are, or an estimation on some new arrivals. Personally there’s not much more I’m after except pure Jubaea, jubaea x queen (#1), and maybe some trachy hybrids. And specifically Rich Lindbergs jubutia F3 x queen. The JxQ is gonna be tough to come up with. This round is Jubaea x yatay, yatay x queen, and another (B/J) x Q. I want some Parajubaea X Jubaea or the reverse cross, if Patrick ends up producing some of these. I have a hunch they'll look very tropical and be pretty hardy. I've got a 2 gallon supermule on the way; they won't ship til March. Love to get a JxB too; already have B. yatay X Jubaea but it's a small seedling. Looks like those yatay crosses are gonna be cool looking plants! Good luck with yours! Edited January 20, 2022 by MarkbVet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkbVet Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) On 7/4/2021 at 11:23 AM, Fallen Munk said: Thread update. Both palms in the ground. JxBY in morning shade (first photo) , BYXJ in morning sun (second photo). Smaller J dominant starting to catch up to the BY dominant and looks healthier with no yellowing leaves. Both roughly the same size now. Yeah that yellowish is slightly concerning, as is the fact that JxB is catching up with the BxJ...Patrick says that the latter cross is faster growing. Maybe something is bothering the BxJ hybrid, causing the yellowing and slowed growth? Hope it's nothing serious. Thanks much for the update! Edited January 20, 2022 by MarkbVet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkbVet Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 On 10/18/2021 at 11:36 AM, Jesse PNW said: OC2palmlover those look great. How old? Looking at his lineup, aside from Jubaea x Butia and Butia x Yatay (which I guess is B odorata x B yatay?), I'm trying to figure out what the next most hardy cross is. There was an older thread here where a guy had posted that his Butia x PJb cocoides had survived a dry 12F. And I believe cocoides is the least hardy of those three species but it seems like no one agrees on how hardy sunkha or torallyi are. I love his B. yatay X Jubaea cross (just got one)... looks so tall/thin and feathery. or the reverse cross, though the seedlings are supposedly more finicky and slower growing. Would love to see a PJB X J also! On paper, torallyi grows up to 11,000 feet elevation, so should be more cold hardy, but people seem to be finding that sunkha is less finicky in cultivation and more wet tolerant. I'd love to see a hybrid of sunka and Jubaea, but would be ok with a torallyi x Jubaea too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen Munk Posted January 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 7 hours ago, MarkbVet said: Yeah that yellowish is slightly concerning, as is the fact that JxB is catching up with the BxJ...Patrick says that the latter cross is faster growing. Maybe something is bothering the BxJ hybrid, causing the yellowing and slowed growth? Hope it's nothing serious. Thanks much for the update! Yellowing was from fertilizing in a pot without flushing out the salts on occasion. Today's photos. The BY X J is really compact and full, while the J X BY is real spindly. It almost looks straight up Butia to me. I expected to see much more Jubaea influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWpalms@206 Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, Fallen Munk said: Yellowing was from fertilizing in a pot without flushing out the salts on occasion. Today's photos. The BY X J is really compact and full, while the J X BY is real spindly. It almost looks straight up Butia to me. I expected to see much more Jubaea influence. I have a 3x9 inch "pinnate" JxBY shipping today ill post pic when it arrives. A 4x10" Yatay x Queen and 4x10" B/J x Q also. Love having palms on the way. Except for when fedex ships my Chamaerops from florida and decides to send it completely off track through north dakota's 0f daytime and -27f night temps. Needless to say it was delayed and there for 2 weeks, on arrival spear pulled immedately looked like death. and its in the garbage now. I got my money back but a shame! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen Munk Posted January 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, NWpalms@206 said: Except for when fedex ships my Chamaerops from florida and decides to send it completely off track through north dakota's 0f daytime and -27f night temps. Needless to say it was delayed and there for 2 weeks, on arrival spear pulled immedately looked like death. and its in the garbage now. I got my money back but a shame! Same thing happened to me last winter with USPS. They kept rerouting my shipment for a month and by the time it arrived all the palms had turned to compost. The box smelled like the underside of a lawnmower before I even opened it. Surprisingly though there was one palm in there that actually grew roots in shipping. A princeps X fortunei hybrid sent along as a freebie was the only one to survive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester B Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 @Fallen Munk do you have any photos of those palms taken from a side view instead of overhead? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 56 minutes ago, Chester B said: @Fallen Munk do you have any photos of those palms taken from a side view instead of overhead? I’ve got some in pots if that’s to your liking? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkbVet Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Fallen Munk said: Yellowing was from fertilizing in a pot without flushing out the salts on occasion. Today's photos. The BY X J is really compact and full, while the J X BY is real spindly. It almost looks straight up Butia to me. I expected to see much more Jubaea influence. Hmmm well if it's a pure Butia (things happen) that would explain its appearance and faster growth rate-- sorry if that's the case (though may still be a cool plant). I'm hoping my B. yatay x Jubaea cross (just got the seedling) is the real deal! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 6 hours ago, Chester B said: @Fallen Munk do you have any photos of those palms taken from a side view instead of overhead? Page two of this thread has an older pic of two of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester B Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 25 minutes ago, RJ said: Page two of this thread has an older pic of two of mine. They look very similar from the side. Any change in appearance since then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen Munk Posted January 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 On 1/20/2022 at 10:22 AM, Chester B said: @Fallen Munk do you have any photos of those palms taken from a side view instead of overhead? I'll take some when I get a chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 On 1/20/2022 at 8:07 PM, Chester B said: They look very similar from the side. Any change in appearance since then? Just bigger but in all seriousness, you can definitely tell the difference in person. The boots and fiber are different. The JxB tends to be a bit greener at least at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen Munk Posted January 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 On 1/20/2022 at 10:22 AM, Chester B said: @Fallen Munk do you have any photos of those palms taken from a side view instead of overhead? Here you go. The bigger fuller one is BY X J. The J X BY is underwhelming to say the least. I really don't see much Jubaea influence at all, to me it's starting to look straight up Butia. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester B Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 @Fallen MunkToo bad about the second palm. I finally broke down and submitted an order, but did not get the JXB based on what people have been showing here in the forum. Thanks for sharing the photos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWpalms@206 Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Chester B said: @Fallen MunkToo bad about the second palm. I finally broke down and submitted an order, but did not get the JXB based on what people have been showing here in the forum. Thanks for sharing the photos. What did you get? Yatay x jub? I’ve got two of those, and cannot wait to see them look like some pics I’ve seen. I’ve got 4x10” yatay x queen, a 4x10” B/JxQ, and a 3x9” Jub x yatay (which I hope is not to disappoint now) on the way. Monday can’t come fast enough! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester B Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, NWpalms@206 said: What did you get? Yatay x jub? I’ve got two of those, and cannot wait to see them look like some pics I’ve seen. I’ve got 4x10” yatay x queen, a 4x10” B/JxQ, and a 3x9” Jub x yatay (which I hope is not to disappoint now) on the way. Monday can’t come fast enough! Based on photos and what I thought would work. 2 - B yatay x Jubaea 2 - B x PJS I have an issue with only getting one, you never know if you'll get a dud or have something unforeseen happen. I do have two regular mules already, that I got from TCHP. Had them for a few years but when I got them they were two leaf seedlings so they are just now starting to look like something. Edited January 23, 2022 by Chester B 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWpalms@206 Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Chester B said: Based on photos and what I thought would work. 2 - B yatay x Jubaea 2 - B x PJS I have an issue with only getting one, you never know if you'll get a dud or have something unforeseen happen. I do have two regular mules already, that I got from TCHP. Had them for a few years but when I got them they were two leaf seedlings so they are just now starting to look like something. And I thought it was just me. 2s all day, I just have to have comparisons to please my curiosity. And can identify the more vigorous/hardy ones. For what it’s worth, especially if hybridizing (I’ll likely never do). Except I got 1 BxPJS and 1 BxPJT. Although completely different sizes that was my 2 Parajubaeas to compare. Wish I had 2 of each though, I got 3 acres Im gonna plant an entire palm farm let the strongest survive! Never too many. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trustandi Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 @Fallen Munk nice shot! I like how you planted the BYxJ and arranged it with rocks & bamboos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester B Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 33 minutes ago, NWpalms@206 said: And I thought it was just me. 2s all day, I just have to have comparisons to please my curiosity. And can identify the more vigorous/hardy ones. For what it’s worth, especially if hybridizing (I’ll likely never do). Except I got 1 BxPJS and 1 BxPJT. Although completely different sizes that was my 2 Parajubaeas to compare. Wish I had 2 of each though, I got 3 acres Im gonna plant an entire palm farm let the strongest survive! Never too many. I would've like to have gotten 3 of each, but it adds up quick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWpalms@206 Posted January 23, 2022 Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Chester B said: I would've like to have gotten 3 of each, but it adds up quick. You ain’t lyin! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen Munk Posted January 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Trustandi said: @Fallen Munk nice shot! I like how you planted the BYxJ and arranged it with rocks & bamboos. Thanks! The rocks keep the squirrels from digging. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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