Palm Protection Method Photos Master Thread

[Leelanau Palms]

We'll be here, interested and hopeful, whenever you face the dark portal 😁

[kbob11]

5 years in the ground.  I just unwrapped today, it is the earliest that I have by about 2 weeks.  The temperatures and weather will hopefully cooperate.  R. Hystrix, left T. Fortunei right.   Worcester, MA. 

[Jimhardy]

Its nice when they can be free as they were "born" to be.😁

[Leelanau Palms]

Remind us: heat for trachy and cover only for needle? Would be great to see up close picture of the needle

[steve617]

Unwrapped my East Tennessee Fortunei last week. This is its 3rd winter. Did great.

[Leelanau Palms]

6 minutes ago, steve617 said:

Unwrapped my East Tennessee Fortunei last week. This is its 3rd winter. Did great.

@steve617 did you heat it? Refresh us on the protection package for this?

[steve617]

I use a thermocube, on at 35 off at 45. Wrap the mini incandescent bulbs I think was 200 of the bulbs. I wrap them around the trunk up to the area were the were the spear comes out. I then wrap burlap around the trunk. Of course I tie the fronds up the best I can. This year I bought a frost cloth that covered all the palm. Last 2 years I would cover it all with a tarp but didn't this year. 

[kbob11]

@Leelanau Palms T. Fortunei has 2 heat lamps at the base with an inkbird set to turn on at 34f.  There is also heat tape around the trunk that turns on below 38f.  That is still on until probably April.  The R. Hystrix is just bungie corded together in a box with leaves and a little spare house insulation.  I’m very impressed with it, last winter we had a day that was -11f -34f windchill and it was not phased.  Bonus picture is a sabal minor that has been through 2 winters.  I just cover it with a bucket but it did receive some noticeable damage.  

[Allen]

27 minutes ago, kbob11 said:

@Leelanau Palms T. Fortunei has 2 heat lamps at the base with an inkbird set to turn on at 34f.  There is also heat tape around the trunk that turns on below 38f.  That is still on until probably April.  The R. Hystrix is just bungie corded together in a box with leaves and a little spare house insulation.  I’m very impressed with it, last winter we had a day that was -11f -34f windchill and it was not phased.  Bonus picture is a sabal minor that has been through 2 winters.  I just cover it with a bucket but it did receive some noticeable damage.  

Awesome on the Needle and Trachy!  On S. minor just a possible tip - make sure fronds don't touch bucket inside.  Possibly wrap with burlap/frost cloth first then put bucket on.  Only leave on during cold under 0-5F

Edited March 3, 2024 by Allen

[Leelanau Palms]

4 hours ago, kbob11 said:

@Leelanau Palms T. Fortunei has 2 heat lamps at the base with an inkbird set to turn on at 34f.  There is also heat tape around the trunk that turns on below 38f.  That is still on until probably April.  The R. Hystrix is just bungie corded together in a box with leaves and a little spare house insulation.  I’m very impressed with it, last winter we had a day that was -11f -34f windchill and it was not phased.  Bonus picture is a sabal minor that has been through 2 winters.  I just cover it with a bucket but it did receive some noticeable damage.  

This is just plain fun and cool! Thanks for the up close images and descriptions. Makes me want to take a shot in my area

[MAPalms]

Here’s the end of winter update for the Rhapidophyllum hystrix. I think it’s approaching three feet now. It experienced a low of 10F. I only protected it with frost cloth when it was both cold and snowing/raining. Overall I am very happy with its performance and can’t wait to see how it does this summer.

[Leelanau Palms]

1 hour ago, MAPalms said:

Here’s the end of winter update for the Rhapidophyllum hystrix. I think it’s approaching three feet now. It experienced a low of 10F. I only protected it with frost cloth when it was both cold and snowing/raining. Overall I am very happy with its performance and can’t wait to see how it does this summer.

That is GREAT!  @MAPalms How long ago was it planted and what size when planted?

[ChicagoPalma]

Finally these 70s are greening up everything!

[Las Palmas Norte]

I got an early start with a shelter today while the weather is still decent. The base is in place year round and it's the frame and panels only that need to be installed. The mini incandescent lights, thermo-cube and circulation fan will be installed when needed. I'll place the half panel in only during periods of cold wintery weather.

 

[Las Palmas Norte]

Here's a winter protection video out of Belgium, Europe that may be of use to some members.

 

 

[DTS]

Here’s Mine for my Butia: I used some burlap, then put a bunch of christmas lighta around the palm, then put an upside down garbage can on top.

[Allen]

 

Supplies: Mini Lights Available Lowes Mid Oct-Dec https://www.lowes.com/pd/GE-String-A-Long-100-Count-20-6-ft-Clear-White-Incandescent-Plug-In-Christmas-String-Lights/50054667

Planket Roll - Also search for other covers round in various sizes and square https://www.homedepot.com/p/Planket-6-ft-x-50-ft-Frost-Cover-Roll-11300/306165164

Amazon Plankets https://amazon.com/dp/B002XZLH5C https://amazon.com/dp/B000HZUUZI

White Frost cloth similar to green planket above https://amazon.com/dp/B07CTZNDSN

35-45 Thermocube https://amazon.com/dp/B0006U2HD2

Garden clips to secure material to poles/wire https://amazon.com/dp/B09XKG3ZBD

Tie down cords for structures https://amazon.com/dp/B08F7G5Z41

Round structure cover https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CBBRWZ1T?th=1

Large palm waterproof outer cover - thin and tough https://amazon.com/dp/B07N5HTMJN

Outdoor wifi light control https://amazon.com/dp/B091FXH2FR

Beginner Temp Sensors https://amazon.com/dp/B09R1TP7HF

[Las Palmas Norte]

I very recently bought a second Thermo-Cube to use this winter. I did notice there are no markings on the unit for electrical certification approval like UL or CSA. The packaging does show a UL listing, but it's been what seems like intentionally obscured on the unit.  I've seen outdoor rated electrical equipment and this doesn't seem anywhere close to that. Packaging states "Maximum 1800 Watts, 15 Amps, 120V AC. To be used with GFCI outlets." My only, and I'd wager most GFCI outlets, are in kitchens and bathrooms. One thing I do & recommend, is to ensure is to protect this unit from moisture. I'm using it with a degree of risk and caution.

I did find this image on line that has a sticker showing the UL which for some unknown reason, mine does not have. Stay safe.

[Allen]

1 hour ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

I very recently bought a second Thermo-Cube to use this winter. I did notice there are no markings on the unit for electrical certification approval like UL or CSA. The packaging does show a UL listing, but it's been what seems like intentionally obscured on the unit.  I've seen outdoor rated electrical equipment and this doesn't seem anywhere close to that. Packaging states "Maximum 1800 Watts, 15 Amps, 120V AC. To be used with GFCI outlets." My only, and I'd wager most GFCI outlets, are in kitchens and bathrooms. One thing I do & recommend, is to ensure is to protect this unit from moisture. I'm using it with a degree of risk and caution.

I did find this image on line that has a sticker showing the UL which for some unknown reason, mine does not have. Stay safe.

I'm not a electrician but I believe outdoor plugs, kitchen, bath and garage are all supposed to be on GFCI .  Of course that has changed over the years and on a older home it may not have it or may have stopped working.   Here in my house the gfci reset for outdoor plugs is in my garage.  I keep all my connections outside dry and if you do not have a gfci and wat one they make a extension cord pigtail that has one.  I use a ziplock bag, cut a hole in the bottom and run the cord thru it and electrical tape it like in this vid so it stays out in the weather for 2-3 months like this

https://youtu.be/25w4dg2EznY?t=224

 

[Las Palmas Norte]

13 minutes ago, Allen said:

I'm not a electrician but I believe outdoor plugs, kitchen, bath and garage are all supposed to be on GFCI .  Of course that has changed over the years and on a older home it may not have it or may have stopped working.   Here in my house the gfci reset for outdoor plugs is in my garage.  I keep all my connections outside dry and if you do not have a gfci and wat one they make a extension cord pigtail that has one.  

Thanks for that. I did a check and found the at both garage and outdoor receptacles are GFCI. There was a complete electric upgrade done on our house just a couple of years prior to us buying. Our entire kitchen was swapped to 20 amp and has more than enough outlets.  Our HVAC has a heat pump for heating and AC. Great savings over conventional systems.

[UK_Palms]

GFCI...? I don't have a clue about electrics, wiring or any of that stuff. I don't understand any of it and I don't pretend to either. I just wouldn't trust myself to wire or set up anything. If I don't electrocute myself in the process, I'll short out the power for my property, or the entire street even. Or whatever I am trying to do, will not work, or it will work initially and then cut out during the night from my faulty work and my stuff would freeze anyway. So I don't even bother with any of that stuff.

My dad is great with electrical stuff and DIY, but I suck at it. And I mean I absolutely suck at it. I'll lose my temper trying to put a cabinet together and have to pour a 'drink'. I know a lot of older folk who are great at wiring plugs and setting up electrical stuff, or doing DIY stuff in general, but similar to myself a lot of my friends have no idea about it either, especially electrical stuff. So it's got to be a generational thing, surely? Being a 90's kid and all. If you have an issue these days, you just call an electrician, unlike 'back in the day'. 🤣