Concern for Leilani Estates as lava moves eastward underground

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A revisit to the early days of the eruption.

Edited August 15, 2018 by Moose

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A revisit to the early days of the eruption. Part II

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A revisit to the early days of the eruption. Part III

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Inside the lava tube is surreal

Edited August 15, 2018 by Moose

[Moose]

Looks like things are slowly returning to "normal" in parts of Puna

[Gonzer]

If fissure 8 has stopped discharging a flow as of a few days ago then where is the lava coming from that is showing as fingers entering the Pacific?

[WestCoastGal]

14 minutes ago, Gonzer said:

If fissure 8 has stopped discharging a flow as of a few days ago then where is the lava coming from that is showing as fingers entering the Pacific?

Ikaika and Philip have said that there's still hot lava in the tubes (channel that has hardened over) that is draining. And we don't really know where all the lava tubes are. At one point they mentioned they though maybe there was a pathway out of the cone from further below in the cone so it didn't have to flow from higher up the cone. Not sure if they still think that. With the Rift Zone on the downslope to the ocean unless a tube gets blocked chances are it will continue to drain. They don't know if lava will refill the summit or Pu'u O'o chambers and drain down slope from there either. Possibly at a slower rate but more or less continous. Still a guessing game but with some educated guesses based on past events. 

Here's 3 photos from the F8 cam today. 

@ 7:48am HST.

@ 8:42am HST.

@ 11:54am HST.

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[Dypsisdean]

2 hours ago, Gonzer said:

If fissure 8 has stopped discharging a flow as of a few days ago then where is the lava coming from that is showing as fingers entering the Pacific?

Gonz - the scale of things, both size and temperatures, etc is hard to get your head around. I heard them say that down by Kapoho, where the lava is 50-60 ft in some places, that there will be red hot lava down at the old ground level for 10+ yrs since it is insulated by all the lava on top. You could drill down and hit it, even if everything looks "normal" on top. And there was 50 year old lava that got pushed out of this eruption first, that had been sitting there all this time. So, it will take awhile for everything to cool and slow down enough to not be noticeable from up on top anymore.

[WestCoastGal]

5 hours ago, Moose said:

 

I find these videos that Scott has been recording from the lava bed quite interesting to watch. I guess when you are around 1800-2000F down inside the more or less insulated vents underground in the tubes there's still a lot of heat for a long time. F8's cone has certainly collapsed quite a bit down onto itself, not unlike F17's from a month or two ago. Also curious what the gas emissions are comprised of in the steam, is this all just steam now (quite a bit at least in the early morning)? I know the SO2 readings have supposedly gone down alot.  It was great Scott tried to give us an idea on the channel depth. With the lava everywhere being so black and kind of uniform in color, and at this time of early morning, pretty hard to get a good measure of it. Plus I don't think even raising the camera up that he showed the bottom of the channel. Wonder if it goes as far down to be near the original land the 'a'a flow started on.

[WestCoastGal]

USGS Eruption lull analysis (8/15):

 

[WestCoastGal]

With no glow from F8 no evening photo to post these days. Did check in on the seismographs from ERZ4 and still showing movement of some kind. Above from a few minutes ago. 

 

[WestCoastGal]

In the News:

Helicopter noise panel to be formed: http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/2018/08/15/hawaii-news/new-panel-to-be-charged-with-finding-solutions-to-helicopter-noise/   My heart went out to the LE resident who spoke at the Pahoa meeting on Tueday about the amount of helicopter traffic over Leilani and became very emotional towards the end when he mentioned that he had served in Vietnam. 

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Lagoon at Pohoiki, new 8/14 map of lava flow: http://bigislandnow.com/2018/08/15/lagoon-created-at-pohoiki-new-map-of-lava-flow/

The article states that there won't be a new map issued by USGS until current conditions change. 

 

[WestCoastGal]

More in the News:

With most of HVNP being closed, park officials have been working on improving the Kahuku Unit for park tours. Visitors for hikes there have increased more than tenfold. The upcoming Forested Pit Crater trail is in development and they are hoping open by 9/16. Currently the Pali o Ka'eo trail is giving hikers a good workout.

http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/2018/08/16/hawaii-news/closure-of-main-part-of-national-park-has-given-rangers-more-time-to-improve-kahuku-unit/ 

While HVO is saying the eruption is likely not over, they are encouraging interested residents to attend the Community Meetings called "Talk Story with the Park" over the next few days where they will share the latest park developments. This afternoon @ 3pm is the meeting in Pahoa at Tin Shack Bakery. Additional days/times are listed in the article.

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I really haven't heard or seen anything lately on the building of housing or shelter situations.

 

[WestCoastGal]

Scott's video from today going from the end of lower Malama and up Moku to Kahukai. 

 

[WestCoastGal]

F8 check in. 

@ 10:48am 

@ 11:44am 

ERZ4 seismograph 

@ 11:51am

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[WestCoastGal]

Ikaika and Andrew at the HUB with eruption and other news. Says there are indications of fluctuations at Summit. He doesn't think it's enough to keep F8 going. ( https://www.facebook.com/ikaika.marzo/videos/1940504416002085/UzpfSTM1NzQ1NTU1NDQyMDI2OToxMDY4MzQ3NjQzMzMxMDUz/ )

 

 

[Dave-Vero]

Already a bit out of date, but here's my view of Pohoiki, Aug 14, considerably edited for better contrast.  The sand blocking the boat ramp is clearly visible.  So is the boat ramp's near miss.  And there's a car.  

[WestCoastGal]

Helicopter Community Meeting from 8/14:

 

[Dave-Vero]

Kapoho Crater, edited just slightly to increase contrast.  The square building in foreground is at the corner of Railroad Ave. and Kapoho Rd. (132).  I was impressed by the green on the crater's cone; pilot (Chris) commented on re-greening.  

 

[Dave-Vero]

The "dry" lava river.  The tour was largely at 3000 feet.  There was some asking and telling.  

 

[Dave-Vero]

The wimpy ocean entry, still with some water discoloration.  I live very close to a busy airport (mostly small planes--rich people don't need airlines) and lived much of my earlier life under flight paths or around landing strips, so am perhaps more attuned to people driven nuts by yard maintenance people with their leaf blowers, mowers, chainsaw-like hedge clippers, and power edgers.   Our air tour was at 3,000 feet or more.  I have a nearly ideal compact camera for that kind of height.  

[WestCoastGal]

Here's Philip Ong and John Stallman's HUB video from late Thursday. ( https://www.facebook.com/phil.hawaii/videos/10215932882056950/UzpfSTM1NzQ1NTU1NDQyMDI2OToxMDY4NTU1MDI5OTc2OTgx/ )

 

[sur4z]

The latest...

https://youtu.be/8fwwG9pkx88

[WestCoastGal]

Harry Durgin was out at the lavacameras this morning making some adjustments I guess. Caught him in one of the frame saves. Any way just looked over at the F8 view and saw this. Where in the world are those other plumes coming from to the right??? I've never seen this before. Love to hear an explanation of what that's all about. I know it rained this morning because I saw the raindrops on the lavacam covering but these are concentrated plumes instead of a overall general evaporating steam.

I zoomed in on the image for a better look...

and the view zoomed in from a screen grab a few minutes later...

Not sure it's related at all but here's the screen grab from just now of the ERZ4 seismograph in Pahoa area.

Half an hour after the first photo above, the plumes are still present. Hope someone on the ground like Scott got some photos of this. The plumes to the right front would be in the opposite direction of the fissure line from the F8 cone but over the channel. The plume behind the F8 cone to the right is probably from those small fissure located behind the cone F24?? or maybe F10+?

[Moose]

44 minutes ago, WestCoastGal said:

Harry Durgin was out at the lavacameras this morning making some adjustments I guess. Caught him in one of the frame saves. Any way just looked over at the F8 view and saw this. Where in the world are those other plumes coming from to the right??? I've never seen this before. Love to hear an explanation of what that's all about. I know it rained this morning because I saw the raindrops on the lavacam covering but these are concentrated plumes instead of a overall general evaporating steam.

I zoomed in on the image for a better look...

and the view zoomed in from a screen grab a few minutes later...

Not sure it's related at all but here's the screen grab from just now of the ERZ4 seismograph in Pahoa area.

Half an hour after the first photo above, the plumes are still present. Hope someone on the ground like Scott got some photos of this. The plumes to the right front would be in the opposite direction of the fissure line from the F8 cone but over the channel. The plume behind the F8 cone to the right is probably from those small fissure located behind the cone F24?? or maybe F10+?

Looks like a lot vapor emerging to me.

[WestCoastGal]

Mick Kalber's 8/16 video:

 

[Moose]

 

[WestCoastGal]

Gabe revisits Fissure 10 yesterday and uploaded the video from it.

 

[WestCoastGal]

In the News:

Hawaii Tribune-Herald report Leilani residents want more transparency in decisions affecting their neighborhood. The article mentions that Talmadge (CD) was at a meeting with residents on Thursday to discuss what plans are for LE if the lava doesn't return.  http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/2018/08/17/hawaii-news/leilani-residents-want-more-transparency-in-decisions-affecting-neighborhood/

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Nice donation from BedMart to Hope Services and two other charities for the evacuees. Nothing like a comfortable bed to sleep on (and we have been Tempur-Pedic owners for years ourselves and love the matress). http://bigislandnow.com/2018/08/16/104-beds-to-be-donated-to-victims-of-kilauea-eruption/

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Nice to see a benefit concert to be held 8/25 at the Church of the Holy Cross in Hilo to benefit Puna relief efforts. http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/2018/08/17/features/church-of-the-holy-cross-to-host-puna-benefit-concert/

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LE Susie Osborne has also filed a lawsuit against Lloyd's of London and Affirmative Risk Management over failing to payout on her lost home's policy. She becomes the third LE homeowner mentioned in the press to do so. http://bigislandnow.com/2018/08/17/third-lava-lawsuit-filed-against-lloyds-of-london/

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USGS lowers the Kilauea alert status from Warning to Watch. http://bigislandnow.com/2018/08/17/usgs-drops-kilauea-volcano-alert-levels-from-warning-to-watch/

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[Dave-Vero]

Lowering of USGS Kilauea alert status is important.  

I admire Mick Kalber's video image stabilization.

The community discussion of helicopter noise got into helicopter bans in the New York area.  I'm pretty sure that largely means the Hamptons, where the wealthy love ferrying out to their homes over the heads of mere mortals.  The relevant book seems to be "Barbarians a

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Edited August 18, 2018 by Moose

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