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I'll show you mine. Give them shade, a lot of water, and they will give you back many rewards. Native to the cloud forests of the Caribbean. One year from seed.

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Kris that one on the left is a Japanese Maple.

Frank

 

Zone 9b pine flatlands

humid/hot summers; dry/cool winters

with yearly freezes

Posted

Wait till Gary Levine posts his...very nice. (for the mainland)

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

These are beautiful palms with very colorful inflorescences. Here's one of ours.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Posted

bo is it my imagination or do your photos look a bit

"pixel-ized"?

look at yer photo then quickly scroll up to tropicos--his seems much more clear to me. ???

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

Posted

Paul,

Maybe! I reduce all mine to the smallest possible size in order to be able to post them directly on the Forum.

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Posted

well,its not just me then :D

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

Posted

Bo- yours is nice! It takes me back to El Yunque.

Frank

 

Zone 9b pine flatlands

humid/hot summers; dry/cool winters

with yearly freezes

Posted

Frank, My Prestoa montana's were pinnate from the first leaf. If your bifid ones are P montana, what am I growing then??????

regards

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

Posted

(Tyrone @ May 29 2007,15:23)

QUOTE
Frank, My Prestoa montana's were pinnate from the first leaf. If your bifid ones are P montana, what am I growing then??????

regards

Tyrone

Tyrone,

I'm pretty sure mine sayed bifid until it was pretty big, with maybe a 2-3cm (1inch) diameter base...

Jack

Jack Sayers

East Los Angeles

growing cold tolerant palms halfway between the equator and the arctic circle...

Posted

from 2 years ago

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No one cares about your current yard temperature 🙃

Posted

I've had a palm in the ground for about 12 years that I bought as Prestoea montana. Do you think this is the same palm?

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

Posted

Very nice Ray and Gary!

Two years ago? It must have put some decent growth. Do you have a more recent photo?

Gileno, do you still have yours?

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Frank

 

Zone 9b pine flatlands

humid/hot summers; dry/cool winters

with yearly freezes

Posted

(elHoagie @ May 29 2007,19:24)

QUOTE

(Tyrone @ May 29 2007,15:23)

QUOTE
Frank, My Prestoa montana's were pinnate from the first leaf. If your bifid ones are P montana, what am I growing then??????

regards

Tyrone

Tyrone,

I'm pretty sure mine sayed bifid until it was pretty big, with maybe a 2-3cm (1inch) diameter base...

Jack

I got my seed from RPS and they've all come up pinnate, not unlike a Euterpe. Maybe that's what I've got then.

regards

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

Posted

Mine came from seed collected by Mike Dahme in 1999.

No one cares about your current yard temperature 🙃

Posted

This is how seeds should look like. Collected in May 2006 (germinated into the ones you see in the first post).

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Frank

 

Zone 9b pine flatlands

humid/hot summers; dry/cool winters

with yearly freezes

  • 6 months later...
Posted

How much water do young seedlings (starting first leaf) need? Do they like being "soaked"?

island Vis, adriatic sea, Croatia. Zone 9b/10a

Temperature low last winter: -0.9°C/30.4 F

Temperature low this winter: -0.3°C/31.5 F

-Creating my own little palm heaven-

Posted

(Pivi @ Dec. 27 2007,11:22)

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How much water do young seedlings (starting first leaf) need? Do they like being "soaked"?

Soaked as in drenched in constant rain. That's what they like. BUT, good drainage.

By the way mine are still bifid, 10 leaves so far. The center one has a leaf with 3 sections, so the pinnate is starting to happen now, 1.5 years from seed.

Frank

 

Zone 9b pine flatlands

humid/hot summers; dry/cool winters

with yearly freezes

Posted

Here are some photos of P. acuminata, v. montana, in its natural habitat in Puerto Rico. These were originally old-style photos that I had digitized, then reduced in file size in PE.

Here's an inflorescence:

One palm:

I suspect that this isn't going to work.

Mike

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Mike Merritt

Big Island of Hawaii, windward, rainy side, 740 feet (225 meters) elevation

165 inches (4,200 mm) of rain per year, 66 to 83 deg F (20 to 28 deg C) in summer, 62 to 80 deg F (16.7 to 26.7 Deg C) in winter.

Posted

Could someone tell me how to post multiple pictures in a post?

Here's the inflorescence:

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Mike Merritt

Big Island of Hawaii, windward, rainy side, 740 feet (225 meters) elevation

165 inches (4,200 mm) of rain per year, 66 to 83 deg F (20 to 28 deg C) in summer, 62 to 80 deg F (16.7 to 26.7 Deg C) in winter.

Posted

Here's a group:

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Mike Merritt

Big Island of Hawaii, windward, rainy side, 740 feet (225 meters) elevation

165 inches (4,200 mm) of rain per year, 66 to 83 deg F (20 to 28 deg C) in summer, 62 to 80 deg F (16.7 to 26.7 Deg C) in winter.

Posted

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island Vis, adriatic sea, Croatia. Zone 9b/10a

Temperature low last winter: -0.9°C/30.4 F

Temperature low this winter: -0.3°C/31.5 F

-Creating my own little palm heaven-

Posted

Mine are just starting to form their first leaf.

Unfortunately, i lost 8 od 10 due to fungus... but this two are going on well...

island Vis, adriatic sea, Croatia. Zone 9b/10a

Temperature low last winter: -0.9°C/30.4 F

Temperature low this winter: -0.3°C/31.5 F

-Creating my own little palm heaven-

Posted

tropico-Nice shot of El Yunque.The Prestoa there are so impressive.About 2 years ago i went to the other side of el Yunque,and saw lots of them there too mixed in with all those gorgeous Tree Ferns.

Chuck Bailey

Posted

(Mike in Kurtisstown @ Dec. 27 2007,14:24)

QUOTE
Could someone tell me how to post multiple pictures in a post?

You need to create an account on an image hosting service such as photobucket.com.  Then add the img link in here.

By the way, very nice pictures. Very impressive inflorescences.

Frank

 

Zone 9b pine flatlands

humid/hot summers; dry/cool winters

with yearly freezes

Posted

Tyrone-

Euterpe and Prestoea are closely related. Even in Euterpe, the only ones that go pinnate are E. edulis and E. espiritosantensis. E. oleracea and precatoria are bifid from what I remember.

Christian Faulkner

Venice, Florida - South Sarasota County.

www.faulknerspalms.com

 

Μολὼν λάβε

Posted

(cfkingfish @ Dec. 29 2007,11:21)

QUOTE
Tyrone-

Euterpe and Prestoea are closely related. Even in Euterpe, the only ones that go pinnate are E. edulis and E. espiritosantensis. E. oleracea and precatoria are bifid from what I remember.

Yes, that's true. I had some oleracea and they were all bifid. I think I got E edulis instead of my montana's I ordered. The seed looked identical to what was posted earlier as montana.

Thanks

regards

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

how fast are they?

These are mine, around 2 months after germinating.

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island Vis, adriatic sea, Croatia. Zone 9b/10a

Temperature low last winter: -0.9°C/30.4 F

Temperature low this winter: -0.3°C/31.5 F

-Creating my own little palm heaven-

Posted

Pivi,

They're not super fast, but not particularly slow either. Here are some of our volunteer Prestoea acuminata seedlings.

Bo-Göran

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Posted

This is such a great palm, it's a shame there are so little information about it online.

island Vis, adriatic sea, Croatia. Zone 9b/10a

Temperature low last winter: -0.9°C/30.4 F

Temperature low this winter: -0.3°C/31.5 F

-Creating my own little palm heaven-

Posted

While we're in the mood

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Frank

 

Zone 9b pine flatlands

humid/hot summers; dry/cool winters

with yearly freezes

Posted

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Frank

 

Zone 9b pine flatlands

humid/hot summers; dry/cool winters

with yearly freezes

Posted

wow, that's lot's of prestoea.

How many are there? Did you count?  :laugh:

island Vis, adriatic sea, Croatia. Zone 9b/10a

Temperature low last winter: -0.9°C/30.4 F

Temperature low this winter: -0.3°C/31.5 F

-Creating my own little palm heaven-

Posted

Frank,

Great pictures! Nothing compares to seeing palms in their natural environment!

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Posted

Frank..fantastic photos.. I'll have to get some of these. I think Daryl on the Gold Coast is growing one of these.. show us a pic Daryl...

Regards

Brod

Palms are the king of trees

Brod

Brisbane, Australia

28 latitude, sub tropical

summer average 21c min - 29c max

winter average 10c min - 21c max

extremes at my place 5c - 42c

1100 average rainfall

Posted

Brod,

The leaves on mine took a real hammering from last winter's night of hell. Funnily, the Betel nut next to it was undamaged. Here is the trunk on mine, starting to get some size to it. These things love water.

There are a couple of large fruiting ones down at Chinderah.

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Daryl

Gold Coast, Queensland Latitude 28S. Mild, Humid Subtropical climate. Rainfall - not consistent enough!

  • 2 years later...
Posted

An update on these three pups. 2007:

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Yesterday:

#1

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#2 is my best looking

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#3 is not looking too sexy after an encounter with fungus.

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Frank

 

Zone 9b pine flatlands

humid/hot summers; dry/cool winters

with yearly freezes

Posted

My in-ground specimen with about 5 ft. of clear trunk really took a hit this past winter, being completely defoliated except for the lower half of the emerging spear. Over the last 10 months, it has only managed to put out one really stunted leaf and is showing signs of pencil pointing as well. I really hope it pulls through, it was a beautiful palm. Nice habitat photos btw, thanks for sharing.

-Michael

Posted

Thanks for the photos Frank, and I was worried I planted mine too close together.

Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

Posted

We have one about 3ft tall that suffered last winter because of the long coolness. Didn't show damage right away but slowly declined and suffered severe burn. It didn't do much but has since started growing but still only put out 3 new leaves since spring.

Eric

Orlando, FL

zone 9b/10a

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