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whats the most colorful palm I can possibly grow in San Diego ???


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I have one last spot - want to go ultra colorful 

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areca vestiaria. a tricky one but ive seen them in san diego.

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"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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chambeyronia hookeri

Paradise Hills, 4 miles inland, south facing slope in the back, north facing yard in the front

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The black and blue stem Dypsis.

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Bentinckia condapanna.

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Although not as colorful as the above, Pinanga coronata is an easier grow and gorgeous.

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10 hours ago, Stevetoad said:

areca vestiaria. a tricky one but ive seen them in san diego.

those grow in San Diego ?

any photo ?

 

I thought those can die off even in Florida

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6 hours ago, trioderob said:

those grow in San Diego ?

any photo ?

 

I thought those can die off even in Florida

Mattyb has had one in the ground for a while and so does Sabal Steve. I only have 2 seedlings that haven't seen a winter yet though.  Maybe those guys willl post a pic. 

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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The Areca was my first thought too, although surviving here is not quite the same as growing here. But knowing Matty, his is probably seeding by now. Steve's was fine too, but I can't recall if it was in ground. Is the area protected? Bentinkia is also a good call, though inconsistent around here, & nothing like Hawaii.

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

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Some good suggestions above......

The Areca would be a tough grow.......I tried twice with no luck!

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12 minutes ago, quaman58 said:

The Areca was my first thought too, although surviving here is not quite the same as growing here. But knowing Matty, his is probably seeding by now. Steve's was fine too, but I can't recall if it was in ground. Is the area protected? Bentinkia is also a good call, though inconsistent around here, & nothing like Hawaii.

Bret,

 

I've been growing one in the ground for a few years now.  It grows fine, but it needs heavy shade at this stage.  It got fried this summer with the heat/Sun, but there are a few leaves in complete shade which look great.  The emergent leaves look great.  

Also, a log fell on it from above, and broke a bunch of the leaves in half.  It's been recovering since, but it appears that it will pull through.  It's a good houseplant.

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My 4" A. vestiaria made it through last winter in the ground, in the shade. It's slow as hell, but I'm hoping the larger plants I got from Floribunda this year will make for more satisfying progress after this winter.

 

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1 minute ago, Matt in OC said:

My 4" A. vestiaria made it through last winter in the ground, in the shade. It's slow as hell, but I'm hoping the larger plants I got from Floribunda this year will make for more satisfying progress after this winter.

 

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Nice!

 

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From what I've heard, the success rate of Areca vestiaria in SoCal is similar to coconut. Slow, stunted... And if it "survives" it will not live to even half of its full potential.

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"Palms have no color"?  Who says? This Chambeyronia hookeri doesn't seem to know that.

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I'm not quite sure what Dypsis this is exactly (rosea, pinnatifrons, var. "Maroantsetra", some kind of hybrid or variant), but it is doing very well for me, and the color is off the charts. New leaf remains red for 1-3 months. I have no idea where to get another one like this if I tried. I hope I get some seeds off this thing someday.

 

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1 hour ago, Pando said:

I'm not quite sure what Dypsis this is exactly (rosea, pinnatifrons, var. "Maroantsetra", some kind of hybrid or variant), but it is doing very well for me, and the color is off the charts. New leaf remains red for 1-3 months. I have no idea where to get another one like this if I tried. I hope I get some seeds off this thing someday.

 

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I'll agree with that. Mine is doing very well too. Although I think mine is different than yours. The new red leaf on yours is much better than mine  

 

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"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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1 hour ago, Pando said:

I'm not quite sure what Dypsis this is exactly (rosea, pinnatifrons, var. "Maroantsetra", some kind of hybrid or variant), but it is doing very well for me, and the color is off the charts. New leaf remains red for 1-3 months. I have no idea where to get another one like this if I tried. I hope I get some seeds off this thing someday.

 

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THIS PALM IS AWESOME!!!!!

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"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

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On 10/27/2016, 12:09:13, trioderob said:

I have one last spot - want to go ultra colorful 

So you have received multiple suggestions, but your selection will necessarily depend on the exposure and size of space.  Ando's Dypsis species is a great small understory, but on the opposite end you have C hookeri which can handle decent amounts of morning sun here even when small and progressively more, which is much larger than the understory options.  I have no experience with the Areca vestiaria to know how much space it will take, but others have already discussed it's lighting needs here in So Cal.  Just to throw in another one with a red emergent that seems to be doing well for me, Dypsis crinita.  Not as much color as a C hookeri, but its also a little off the beaten track in gardens around here.20161015-104A4466.thumb.jpg.744d972710ec

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I dont know- I have a weird Micro

some things that grow like dogs for others are rockets for me.

and the reverse some palms like flame throwers just burn up at my place in the Aug / OCT  dry wind season - they seem to like the more humid coast.

that  pinnatifrons looks bitchin  - would not mind one of those - fo sure

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The Kentiopsis piersoniorum is a looker... the "champagne palm"...

 

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

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I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Maybe you could try a red Latania. In a good protected area it could make it in San Diego. It will grow slower than in Hawaii but you could have the nice red color for more years. This photo was taken in Tenerife. In person this palm is more beautiful than the quality of my photo.

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9 hours ago, trioderob said:

 

"Kentiopsis piersoniorum is a looker. ".....any photos ??????

 

I have some good pics on this thread.. http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/5688-why-i-love-kentiopsis-piersoniorum/

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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On ‎10‎/‎27‎/‎2016‎ ‎12‎:‎23‎:‎14‎, Stevetoad said:

areca vestiaria. a tricky one but ive seen them in san diego.

I hope so! Just planted a 5GA in 1/2 sun 1/2 shade lol

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Guess It would depend on what "Color" you are looking for! Red? Blue? A Variety of them all?  You can get something other than a Palm Tree for more Color as well! I just planted a Pink Cedar Tree that from what Ive seen in larger photos is a stunner! I also just planted a lot of what people are saying, Areca V,  P. Coronata.   Lately Ive been changing it up, and getting cool Ficus's, African Tulip Tree Red Form,  Pink Cedar,  Shizzy's( Brazillian Fern Tree) Which is the fastest damn thing I have ever seen grow! Shoot, get a big damn rock with holes and plant a bunch of Bromeliads lol.. The Possibilities are endless.   I love blue, so my front yard consisted of as many blue palms as I could grow, mixed with CHambeys.  Good luck, let us know what you decide!

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I'm suprised nobody has mentioned the Cyrtostachys hybrid.  How are they doing?  Are they showing much color?

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Im pretty happy with the colors that are starting to develop on this Dypsis Prestoniana hybrid.

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10 hours ago, Fallbrook Jason said:

Im pretty happy with the colors that are starting to develop on this Dypsis Prestoniana hybrid.

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What is it crossed with Jason?

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On Sun Oct 30 2016 08:16:29 GMT-0700, rprimbs said:

I'm suprised nobody has mentioned the Cyrtostachys hybrid.  How are they doing?  Are they showing much color?

I don't believe that many people have tried this out here.  These are difficult to find, and expensive to obtain in California.  

I believe that Len may have tried one, reported that it died abruptly, and said that it did not seem to be a viable option for California.  Perhaps he'll weigh in.

But, Rob says that he has "killer soil" and lives in "one of the best microclimates" around, so maybe he pull it off.  But, in a later thread, he said that microclimates didn't really exist, so who knows:)

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its a know fact that there is a climatic "wonderland'  zone that runs thru southern California. this is substantiated by the fact that 100 years ago they were recognized by the early settlers and turned into agricultural areas.

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There are plenty of areas in California that are used for agricultural zones, that aren't in "climatic wonderlands".  Many of us know that you just grabbed that phrase from the tag line, under one of our forum member's avatar.  I believe that it goes "Vista - Climatic Wonderland".   I wouldn't describe central California, where much of our farmland is located, as a "Climatic Wonderland", or the central United States - the breadbasket of America.

Anyways, we have all tried to help you pick out a plant, but you have ignored requests for more detail about your desired planting location.  

But to answer your question, why not Dypsis Leptochielos, or one of it's hybrids?  This is, of course, assuming that your position has sun - although i've seen lots doing great in part sun.  Why don't you give us a little more detail.

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Just plant another black stem :rolleyes:

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On 10/31/2016, 8:56:45, Palm Tree Jim said:

What is it crossed with Jason?

I believe Dypsis Mahajanga

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On 10/31/2016, 7:08:44, Danilopez89 said:

Just plant another black stem :rolleyes:

Bet you were  having fun in the 110 f summer temps 

 

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2 hours ago, trioderob said:

Bet you were  having fun in the 110 f summer temps 

 

I don't mind the high heat too much. I kinda like it. Keeps all the snowbirds from overcrowding our paradise.:winkie:

We're still having high temps here in November. Probably higher temps than many see during summer. 

I think we topped off at 90° F today 

8:44pm - 80°F

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4 hours ago, Fallbrook Jason said:

I believe Dypsis Mahajanga

Wow.....great hybrid!

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On 11/3/2016, 8:56:41, Palm Tree Jim said:

Wow.....great hybrid!

Yeah, it's one of the fastest plants in my garden. Was a 1 gallon just a few years ago. I'll try to post the old photos of it to compare. The color really started developing this year. 

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