Possible Dypsis hybrid

[Hilo Jason]

2 hours ago, Josh-O said:

Thanks Jason, would be interesting to know what daddy is in the parentage. I have managed to get some in 15 gallons this past year. extremely fast in the green house but slow outside

Are yours splitting Josh?

[Hilo Jason]

Here’s one I just dug up from my garden. Bought this as a 4” about 18 months ago. Planted it out as a rooted 3 gallon about 6 months or so ago. It was acting a bit funny and seemed like the spears were getting jammed up as it wanted to split. Since I have a larger one in the ground I needed to make room for something else. So this will stay in a pot til it gets out of its funk and will then find a new home. 

I actually cut open some of the newer leaf bases to unclog the jam. Curious to see what happens. 

[Josh-O]

9 hours ago, Hilo Jason said:

Here’s one I just dug up from my garden. Bought this as a 4” about 18 months ago. Planted it out as a rooted 3 gallon about 6 months or so ago. It was acting a bit funny and seemed like the spears were getting jammed up as it wanted to split. Since I have a larger one in the ground I needed to make room for something else. So this will stay in a pot til it gets out of its funk and will then find a new home. 

I actually cut open some of the newer leaf bases to unclog the jam. Curious to see what happens. 

what are you calling this one Jason?

[Hilo Jason]

On 9/1/2019 at 7:20 AM, Josh-O said:

what are you calling this one Jason?

This is a Malcomberi Hybrid, from Floribunda.   Bought as a 4" plant.  

[Hilo Jason]

Just now, Hilo Jason said:

This is a Malcomberi Hybrid, from Floribunda.   Bought as a 4" plant.  

The interesting (and confusing) thing is that I have seen 4 different palms here on the Big Island, all labeled "Malcomberi", so now with hybrids thrown in there, it's just getting ridiculous!  Seems like people must have been slapping the Malcomberi name on lots of different seed coming in years ago from Madagascar.  

[Tracy]

On 9/1/2019 at 10:20 AM, Josh-O said:

what are you calling this one Jason?

 

20 hours ago, Hilo Jason said:

The interesting (and confusing) thing is that I have seen 4 different palms here on the Big Island, all labeled "Malcomberi", so now with hybrids thrown in there, it's just getting ridiculous!  Seems like people must have been slapping the Malcomberi name on lots of different seed coming in years ago from Madagascar.

So perhaps malcomberi means confused in some yet unknown language?

On a different clumping Dypsis hybrid, I'm curious what others think of this one below which I got as an onilahensis hybrid.  I've never grown Dypsis baronii, but understand that the splitting trunks like this are really common; two of the original trunks have split into two, and one of the original trunks from the ground has split into 3; so from the original 3 trunks there are now 7 places where new leaves emerge and it's still an adolescent palm.

[Matt in OC]

Here's one of my Malcomberi hybrids I got from Floribunda as a 4". I'm pretty sure they haven't grown an inch the past 2.5 years. It's been outdoors the whole time and should probably be put out of its misery. 

[Palm Tree Jim]

My malcomberi hybrid. In the ground for 2 years and has been a good grower for me.

 

[Hilo Jason]

23 hours ago, Tracy said:

 

On a different clumping Dypsis hybrid, I'm curious what others think of this one below which I got as an onilahensis hybrid.  I've never grown Dypsis baronii, but understand that the splitting trunks like this are really common; two of the original trunks have split into two, and one of the original trunks from the ground has split into 3; so from the original 3 trunks there are now 7 places where new leaves emerge and it's still an adolescent palm.

 

Hey Tracy,

That looks to me like a couple of plants I had in my Fallbrook garden.  If they are the same, then I believe they were seed out of Louie Hoopers garden.  Kevin Weaver collected it.  They sprouted pretty quick and were real colorful when young.  Some grew real fast, others didn't.  I'm sure some of those made their way through Kevin, to Jungle Music and other So Cal growers.  Many were labeled "Onilahensis Hybrid".  I had a nice one that stayed solitary that is now in Josh-O's garden.  I never made it to the Hoopers garden to see what it could have crossed with (or if it even did), but definitely nice plants.  

[Dypsisdean]

2 hours ago, Hilo Jason said:

Hey Tracy,

That looks to me like a couple of plants I had in my Fallbrook garden.  If they are the same, then I believe they were seed out of Louie Hoopers garden.  Kevin Weaver collected it.  They sprouted pretty quick and were real colorful when young.  Some grew real fast, others didn't.  I'm sure some of those made their way through Kevin, to Jungle Music and other So Cal growers.  Many were labeled "Onilahensis Hybrid".  I had a nice one that stayed solitary that is now in Josh-O's garden.  I never made it to the Hoopers garden to see what it could have crossed with (or if it even did), but definitely nice plants. 

You two - remind me at Dorian's palm tour to show you a D. onilahensis that I got from Mardy Darian way back before there were hardly any around - about 25 yrs ago. Louis Hooper would have been one of the few around who would of had one of those in his garden. It was a chunky robust stiffer leaf version - very different than the "weeping form."

[Hilo Jason]

On 9/4/2019 at 2:20 PM, Dypsisdean said:

You two - remind me at Dorian's palm tour to show you a D. onilahensis that I got from Mardy Darian way back before there were hardly any around - about 25 yrs ago. Louis Hooper would have been one of the few around who would of had one of those in his garden. It was a chunky robust stiffer leaf version - very different than the "weeping form."

Sounds good, looking forward to seeing it! 

[iDesign]

Bringing back this older thread since I was able to join the “Malcomberi hybrid” club. 😎

Was in Josh’s greenhouse (he just had this one), and I’m loving the brilliant white color of the trunk (top covering has some minor marks, but I’m being careful not to touch the base).

I set it down to take this photo, but am now debating its final placement. I assume I shouldn’t give it full (California) sun, but can it handle a “mostly sunny” spot? Or should I give it one of my few “mostly shade” spots?

I’m pretty nervous about this palm, due to the low success rate by growers near me that are much more experienced than I am.

FYI, mine is a single trunk at the moment. Josh showed me two in his garden… one is still single, and one has split. Both were stunning. 

Thank you for any care info you can offer, esp in regards to light levels. ☀️

Oh, and the white doesn’t wash off in heavy rain, right? I know it comes off if you touch or scratch it, but i don’t need to shelter it from rain, right? (not that San Diego gets much). 🌨️

Really hoping this one thrives. 🤞

[Kim]

I always thought white crownshafts were an adaptation for dealing with direct sun. Don't quote me on that...

[Harry’s Palms]

@iDesign , I’ve usually taken extra care when bringing palms home from a greenhouse environment , but you probably already know that. I would start with a mostly shady spot  , leaving it in its pot for a while , and hopefully getting some advice from those that know that species. The Dypsis palms I brought home from @DoomsDave were more common ( Lanceolata , Basilonga) and Dave was good about giving advice so I planted in a filtered light situation . They are doing well but they weren’t dealing with an environment change . Dave’s climate is similar to mine . The seasonal timing will work in your favor though so I expect you will be successful. That is a beautiful palm , single or even if it splits off later on . Harry

 

on a side note , after thought- Your situation reminds me of a risky purchase from Phil at JM back in about 1998 or so . He had drug out a lovely looking palm , not quite as large as your recent acquisition , actually about half that size in that size container. It was a Roystonia Oleracae ( he referred to it as Venezuelan Royal) . It was love at first sight but expensive . Phil said that it would not make it through a single winter at my place and strongly advised against trying. I had to have it! It was planted as soon as I got home with little protection. It is still going strong and I had no experience or much help. If it’s meant to be…….😊

I know different palm , just thought I would share. Harry

[Hilo Jason]

Looks good @iDesign 

here’s an update on mine that was posted back in 2019 on this thread. I planted it in my “new” Garden in 2021. It’s now multi trunks, flowering and massive!  Full Hawaiian sun, close to sea level. Maybe 100 ft elevation. 
 

 

Size 10 sandal for scale:

here it is from the outside of my fence:

And here’s what it looked like in 2019 after digging it up from my old garden. It stayed in this pot for 2 more years til being planted in 2021: