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Yep, one is a palm, and you know it, but probably not by the name they have chosen.

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20141121-the-rarest-plants-in-the-world?ocid=fbert

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When you mentioned a palm on the list I thought it would be Hyophorbe amaricaulis, not that one.

Ryan

South Florida

Posted

I thought the rarest palm was the single Judean date palm germinated from a 2,000 year old seed.

Methuselah

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Posted

Suicide palm??? Who made up that name? I could understand if it was a member in the "palm suicide club", I suppose, along with Talipot and all other monocarpic species. But the crassness of the name is just weird. Maybe I just read too much news today. Do natives in Madagascar call it a suicide palm in their local language?

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They also chose Encephalartos hirsutus; while rare, is not even close to the rarest cycad....E. woodii

John Case

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Posted

Juania, suicide palm

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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Posted

To refer to the Tahina as the "suicide palm" only reflects on the ignorance of the individual(s) who came up with this list.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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It appears the name was given by the press "Towering over 60 feet in height, and sporting a life-span of 50 years, this strange species has gained the name in the press as the suicide palm."

from :http://www.grangettosnews.com/news/10/26/suicidepalm.html

And it is stated here by the ICUN, as a common name for the palm: http://www.iucnredlist.org/details/195893/0

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Posted

"Gained the name in the press" - right, that says it all. Someone desperate for attention...

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Posted

"Gained the name in the press" - right, that says it all. Someone desperate for attention...

And there was that silliness about so big it could be seen from space, aka Google Earth. Lots of palms can be seen from Google Earth including my CIDP. But on the other hand press brings awareness, too. So its not all bad. Who knows, somewhere maybe a few new palm enthusiasts came out of it.

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Posted

True about the press, and the publicity it brought was definitely something positive. I just happen to seriously dislike the "suicide" moniker. Lots of other palms die after they flower so why pick on the Tahina? :bemused:

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Posted

Quick, somebody update the Tahina description on PalmPedia!

Posted

Quick, somebody update the Tahina description on PalmPedia!

Hey, if IUCN said it, it must be true, lol

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Posted

When you mentioned a palm on the list I thought it would be Hyophorbe amaricaulis, not that one.

Ryan

I also thought of this lone specimen.

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Posted

Anyone can make a list and just puting it in print doesn't make it so...the coral (plant) tree can be seen all over south Florida.

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Posted

Anyone can make a list and just puting it in print doesn't make it so...the coral (plant) tree can be seen all over south Florida.

The wording in the article itself appears to be more along the lines of endangered in habitat, rather than rare overall. Unfortunately, it is common practice in the trade that one person authors an article, and then someone else writes the headline. Although it is easy to see enough examples of this gone wrong, I don't see that practice changing.

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Posted

Suicide palm??? That just about sums up any poor palm that happens to find itself exposed to the Sidom touch of my not so green fingers..... :bemused:

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Posted

When you mentioned a palm on the list I thought it would be Hyophorbe amaricaulis, not that one.

Ryan

What you said.

Tom

Bowie, Maryland, USA - USDA z7a/b
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Posted (edited)

What if you genetically modified suicide palm with wandering jew?

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Edited by HurryUp&Grow
Posted (edited)
But seriously, google search shows about 2,170 search results when searching "suicide palm" (in quotes). That doesn't seem like much.
And when I searched google's scholarly articles, I found only one reference--an editorial--featured in the Botanical Journal of the Linnean Society, 2010.
"Marking the end of the International Year of Biodiversity"
quoted:
' The ‘suicide palm’Tahina spectabilis J.Dransf. & Rakotoarin. (Arecaceae; Dransfield et al., 2008) '
Written by Michael F. Fay who, through further research, possesses the following credentials:
BSc, University College of Wales, Aberystwyth, 1981
PhD, University of Wales, 1989
Individual Merit Promotion, 2011
Chair, IUCN/SSC Orchid Specialist Group
IUCN Plant Conservation Subcommittee
Global Strategy for Plant Conservation UK Implementation Group
Editor in Chief, Botanical Journal of the Linnean Society
So perhaps someone like Mike ought to know...just saying. Maybe the problem is a "sensitivity issue" which then boils down to a redundant pursuit in name changes to be more politically correct. BORRRING!
Edited by HurryUp&Grow

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