Anyone growing Burretiokentia hapala in full FL sun?

[Cocoa Beach Jason]

I recently received a Burretiokentia hapala 7 gallon. My house lacks a suitable shady spot and it must be planted in an area that gets full sun for a many hours a day. It gets seriously hot everywhere in my yard during summer but it stays real humid and wet. Anyone else in FL having success in similar conditions?

[Cocoa Beach Jason]

Nobody? I guess I will be the only one trying this. I will report back in a year or so to let everyone know how it is going.

[Eric in Orlando]

We have a specimen growing well here but it is in bright shade.

[Palmə häl′ik]

Ive got one under canopy aswell.

Not full sun tho...

Its happy. Deep green foliage.

These ARE emergent palms BTW.

-Ray.

[palmislandRandy]

It'll burn, especially if it is shade grown. I would make a tent out of shade cloth & a few bamboo poles for at least for a few months to at least give it a chance.

-Randy

[Palmdude]

I've got a small one doing nicely in bright shade

[Jimbean]

From what I understand it may be better if planted in a shady spot.

[John Case]

Mine are in full CA shade.....

[Cocoa Beach Jason]

Yeah I understand that they are recommended for shade. Unfortunately at this point I don't have any available shady spots. So against advice I must plant it in a spot that gets some full sun for a few hours at least. I will report back after some time to let you guys know how it handled it.

[PalmatierMeg]

Mine planted in the back yard in March was subjected to summer FL sun and burned badly. For the next 2 years I tented it with shade cloth during the summer. Finally I planted several piccabeen juveniles close by knowing they were much faster growing and would soon shade my B.h. Worked like a charm. This species can't hack summer sun when young.

[Josh-O]

I have a 15 gal that gets filtered afternoon sun and look great. It was in full sun last year for 1 week and got pretty burnt. that's why I put it back in filtered sun.

[PalmatierMeg]

Below is my largest B. hapala - slow growing. Last photo is of the two piccabeens I planted to shield it from FL summer sun. They are 4x as tall and doing their job well

[Ken Johnson]

Mine are almost in full sun as they start to bloom at 6 feet tall! All seem to love full overhead sun put protection from sides when young. I have dozens in all kinds of conditions trying them out. Too much shade when young seems to bring on funk...

[Palmə häl′ik]

Sun from the top?

No sun on the sides?

[Ken Johnson]

Sun from the top?

No sun on the sides?

I'm sayin....

[foxtail]

On 11/18/2014, 8:18:14, Cocoa Beach Jason said:

Nobody? I guess I will be the only one trying this. I will report back in a year or so to let everyone know how it is going.

Jason, how are doing your hapala?

I'm in the same boat.

Edited May 27, 2016 by foxtail

[Cocoa Beach Jason]

18 minutes ago, foxtail said:

Jason, how are doing your hapala?

I'm in the same boat.

My hapala is growing well. Burned at first which was expected. It grew out of that slowly and is now doing fine. Not yet trunking but starting to pick up speed. I'm on an airplane right now but will try to remember to post a photo.  I have since picked up a a vieillardii and also a koghiensis. Those two are in a shady spot but will keep you in the loop on those as well. 

Edited May 27, 2016 by Cocoa Beach Jason

[foxtail]

1 hour ago, Cocoa Beach Jason said:

My hapala is growing well. Burned at first which was expected. It grew out of that slowly and is now doing fine. Not yet trunking but starting to pick up speed. I'm on an airplane right now but will try to remember to post a photo.  I have since picked up a a vieillardii and also a koghiensis. Those two are in a shady spot but will keep you in the loop on those as well. 

Excellent, good to know. 

[Cape Garrett]

These can take fill sun....with adequate water.  I did here in Cape Coral at my pre vious  home.  Just a bit of shade but closer to full sun.  Just need to slowly acclimate it or grow it on to a larger size in pots before doing so...  Mine now is only 3 gallon and gets 3 hours full morning sun...getting it prepared for next year when I plant it out in full sun.

 

Garrett

 

 

 

[Cocoa Beach Jason]

I should add that I put it in ground during winter to help it acclimate before the heat came on.

[Palmə häl′ik]

Couple inches of wood on mine...  Shade grown:

 

I like em, I just scooped up another one a couple weeks back.

[Cocoa Beach Jason]

On May 27, 2016 at 12:41:22 PM, foxtail said:

Jason, how are doing your hapala?

I'm in the same boat.

 

On May 27, 2016 at 12:58:05 PM, Cocoa Beach Jason said:

My hapala is growing well. Burned at first which was expected. It grew out of that slowly and is now doing fine. Not yet trunking but starting to pick up speed. I'm on an airplane right now but will try to remember to post a photo.  I have since picked up a a vieillardii and also a koghiensis. Those two are in a shady spot but will keep you in the loop on those as well. 

I spoke too soon guys. This summer has been brutally hot and my hapala is starting to suffer. It is in a stagnant while sunny location and it remains real hot there. Brown tips and some crispy spots. 

[foxtail]

3 hours ago, Cocoa Beach Jason said:

 

I spoke too soon guys. This summer has been brutally hot and my hapala is starting to suffer. It is in a stagnant while sunny location and it remains real hot there. Brown tips and some crispy spots. 

Sadly to read this.

[Tracy]

5 hours ago, Cocoa Beach Jason said:

This summer has been brutally hot and my hapala is starting to suffer. It is in a stagnant while sunny location and it remains real hot there. Brown tips and some crispy spots.

I had to transplant the pictured one below back in 2013.  It moved from the north side of the house, where it received some shade from other plants as well as the house, to the south side, where it only got shade from the adjacent wall during the dead of winter.  I had pretty bad leaf burn, so planted a banana immediately west of it, which I knew would pop up fast and provide some shade for it.  Its remained a vigorous grower both before and after the banana was added, but now there is definitely less leaf tip burning.  This was originally planted from a 7 gallon pot in the spring of 2011 if I recall correctly.  Bottom line, if you can give it some late afternoon protection, you will likely see an improvement.  I hope to eventually remove the banana, as I have a small but fast growing D decaryi x D leptocheilos hybrid to the west of the banana which will eventually overtake the hapala and give it some shade.

[foxtail]

8 minutes ago, Tracy said:

I had to transplant the pictured one below back in 2013.  It moved from the north side of the house, where it received some shade from other plants as well as the house, to the south side, where it only got shade from the adjacent wall during the dead of winter.  I had pretty bad leaf burn, so planted a banana immediately west of it, which I knew would pop up fast and provide some shade for it.  Its remained a vigorous grower both before and after the banana was added, but now there is definitely less leaf tip burning.  This was originally planted from a 7 gallon pot in the spring of 2011 if I recall correctly.  Bottom line, if you can give it some late afternoon protection, you will likely see an improvement.  I hope to eventually remove the banana, as I have a small but fast growing D decaryi x D leptocheilos hybrid to the west of the banana which will eventually overtake the hapala and give it some shade.

Wow, I love it!!!

Mine is painfully slow.

[foxtail]

My little one died, too much sun.

Have a 3 gallons size now, let see.

[Tomw]

I have a Burretiokentia hapala that I planted in the full sun around 3 to 4 years ago. It suffered with sun burning, but it is doing great and there is little or no issues with the new fronds. I’ll take pictures of it today and post pictures of it.    

[Tomw]

I was finally able to take some pictures

[Tomw]

[realarch]

Tom, that does look outstanding! Nice fat crownshaft with the white tomentum. 

Tim

[Cape Garrett]

Nice.  How big was it when you planted it?

[Tomw]

I planted it between 4 – 5 years ago (+ / -) and it was in a 1  to 3 gal pot. I’m a fan of planting the somewhat small and enjoying them in the adolescent and teenage years, except when I mow the lawn.   

[Cape Garrett]

21 hours ago, Tomw said:

I planted it between 4 – 5 years ago (+ / -) and it was in a 1  to 3 gal pot. I’m a fan of planting the somewhat small and enjoying them in the adolescent and teenage years, except when I mow the lawn.   

Really fast growth.  Should be used more often.

[Tomw]

3 minutes ago, Cape Garrett said:

Really fast growth.  Should be used more often.

 

That growth rate may not be typical, I give my trees as much water and fertilizer as they can take.

[foxtail]

On 6/29/2017, 1:39:03, Tomw said:

What a beauty!!!? Love the D. Album too, anyway all the garden!!!!

[foxtail]

4 hours ago, Tomw said:

 

That growth rate may not be typical, I give my trees as much water and fertilizer as they can take.

Is it water lover?

[Jeff_Cabinda]

On Sat May 28 2016 21:41:21 GMT+0100, Palmə häl′ik said:

Couple inches of wood on mine...  Shade grown:

 

I like em, I just scooped up another one a couple weeks back.

Very nice green!

[RedRabbit]

On 6/29/2017, 2:08:33, Tomw said:

I planted it between 4 – 5 years ago (+ / -) and it was in a 1  to 3 gal pot. I’m a fan of planting the somewhat small and enjoying them in the adolescent and teenage years, except when I mow the lawn.   

That's kind of amazing. From what I've seen most palms don't do well that size in full sun, let alone a Burretiokentia hapla.

[Tomw]

On ‎7‎/‎1‎/‎2017‎ ‎3‎:‎10‎:‎39‎, RedRabbit said:

That's kind of amazing. From what I've seen most palms don't do well that size in full sun, let alone a Burretiokentia hapla.

The palm was sunburnt for several years (like half of the leave was brown and crispy), I even tried to acclimate it to the sun prior to planting it there. My friends in the palm society said give some time it should acclimate. I have another that is in much more shade (no burning), but it doesn’t get as much water and is much smaller. This one gets plenty of water.