Moose Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 On 12/17/2014, 6:46:36, _Keith said: Next time you make it down to Tigerland, plan for a stop to see your old Mules. That yatay Mule is a show-stopper What does a yatay Mule show-stopper look like? Inquiring minds need the know. Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicdoc Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 So does that butia x p sunkha have pretty flat fronds? Am I seeing that right? All of my butia x parajub (I have 4) have fronds somewhat in an upward v like butia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom in Tucson Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 11 hours ago, Tropicdoc said: So does that butia x p sunkha have pretty flat fronds? Am I seeing that right? All of my butia x parajub (I have 4) have fronds somewhat in an upward v like butia. My newest seedling still has strap leaves, so I'll have to wait and see. The older one has leaves in a V shape that is more acute than B x PJc or Bp x PJc. It also has a Butia like blue tinge. Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ Hi 91°, Lo 50° Tom Birt - Casas Adobes - NW of Tucson since July 2014 formerly in the San Carlos region of San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicdoc Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 Funny how the genetics work I bought 2 bp x pjc and they are deep green. Then I bought 2 more a year later... These are more grey green like butia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maesy Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 In 2007 i bought a b x pj from partic that was a bit grey green as well. Finally it turned out to be a plain butia var. paraguayensis. Marcel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maesy Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Today I have planted out my J x S. I hope it will do well in my climate. Marcel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom in Tucson Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 7 hours ago, maesy said: In 2007 i bought a b x pj from partic that was a bit grey green as well. Finally it turned out to be a plain butia var. paraguayensis. Marcel I assume Patric(k) did not sell the hybrid Butia paraguayensis X Parajubaea cocoides back then, and you thought you were buying a Butia odorata (or mutt) X Parajubaea cocoides. So did he make a dual mistake? Did you contact him about the mistake? Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ Hi 84°, Lo 50° Tom Birt - Casas Adobes - NW of Tucson since July 2014 formerly in the San Carlos region of San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maesy Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 It was not labled as bp x pjc, until then I never heard of that cross, only b x pj. After it turned out not to be true in 2010, someone told me that he tried to make the same cross with paraguayensis. So I dug it out again and potted it up. It is a paraguayensis. Patric was very gentle and replaced it. He even added a yatay x jubaea as a gift! Unfortunately the b x pj was a kind of a weak plant and it finally died. But it was the real thing the strap leaves looked very parajubaea like. I also should have used a bigger pot. Maybe it was my mistake. The good thing is I am very happy with the yatay x jubaea which suits better to my climate anyway. Marcel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom in Tucson Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 5 hours ago, maesy said: It was not labled as bp x pjc, until then I never heard of that cross, only b x pj. After it turned out not to be true in 2010, someone told me that he tried to make the same cross with paraguayensis. So I dug it out again and potted it up. It is a paraguayensis. Patric was very gentle and replaced it. He even added a yatay x jubaea as a gift! Unfortunately the b x pj was a kind of a weak plant and it finally died. But it was the real thing the strap leaves looked very parajubaea like. I also should have used a bigger pot. Maybe it was my mistake. The good thing is I am very happy with the yatay x jubaea which suits better to my climate anyway. Marcel It's great to hear how gracious Patric(k) was in dealing with the problem. By the way, your J x Q (JxS) looks great. I'm going to plant 2 this spring. Tom Birt - Casas Adobes, AZ Hi 84°, Lo 50° (2-20) Tom Birt - Casas Adobes - NW of Tucson since July 2014 formerly in the San Carlos region of San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicdoc Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 On February 20, 2016 at 3:20:18 PM, maesy said: Today I have planted out my J x S. I hope it will do well in my climate. Marcel Once again variable genetics this hybrid is hardly plumose at all...looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailorBold Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 My JxS survived here with just a wall o water and lows around 15f... not really a test by any means but its a small plant and must have been in the low 20's..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alicehunter2000 Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 Bump....updates David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a 200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida 30 ft. elevation and sandy soil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew92 Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 I wonder what ultimate height will be like for this hybrid. I'll bet it's pretty tall. Maybe one of the few "royal palm sized" palms one could do in a zone 8. Also can't wait to see what the trunk looks like as it gets older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailorBold Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 On 6/8/2016 9:02:07, Opal92 said: I wonder what ultimate height will be like for this hybrid. I'll bet it's pretty tall. Maybe one of the few "royal palm sized" palms one could do in a zone 8. Also can't wait to see what the trunk looks like as it gets older. Should be interesting... Hopefully it turns out hardier than a mule palm when it gets some size to it as well. I planted mine next to my fireplace..which I don't plan on using in the future. It is poorly placed but I planted it in a really good micro-climate so.. hopefully even if it looks off. I kind of went against the 'landscaping rules' and also have 2 butia in front of large windows.. which also are.. poorly placed. They might not look right when they get larger.. which now I am kind of shaking my head a little. So what do you think? 60 feet ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben in Norcal Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 16 hours ago, SailorBold said: Should be interesting... Hopefully it turns out hardier than a mule palm when it gets some size to it as well. I planted mine next to my fireplace..which I don't plan on using in the future. It is poorly placed but I planted it in a really good micro-climate so.. hopefully even if it looks off. I kind of went against the 'landscaping rules' and also have 2 butia in front of large windows.. which also are.. poorly placed. They might not look right when they get larger.. which now I am kind of shaking my head a little. So what do you think? 60 feet ? I hear Butias move super well...maybe get them better placed while you still can? Ben RogersOn the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasColdHardyPalms Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 On 6/19/2016, 4:00:39, Ben in Norcal said: I hear Butias move super well...maybe get them better placed while you still can? Butia transplant extremely well small or large. Livistona chinensis is a transplant champ as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailorBold Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 I'm just going to leave them.. meh.. They are marginal so my planting locations are limited and they are in decent spots.. even though they are incorrect. They are growing faster than I thought they would too! I was hoping they would stay small Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maesy Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Bump. My j x s today. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Axel Amsterdam Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Wow really beautiful cross maesy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alicehunter2000 Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 How about a 2 year update? David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a 200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida 30 ft. elevation and sandy soil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maesy Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) Edited December 21, 2018 by maesy 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maesy Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 At night 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) 45 minutes ago, maesy said: How cold has it seen? Looks great! Edited December 21, 2018 by RJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maesy Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 It is well protected in winter with a heat cable if it should go below -5° celsius. But it has seen close to -6° shortly after planting in march 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, maesy said: It is well protected in winter with a heat cable if it should go below -5° celsius. But it has seen close to -6° shortly after planting in march 2016. Do you cover/wrap it as well? fronds look great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maesy Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 Yes, of course. The heating cable would be useless without a good cover. I'm going to take a picture tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alicehunter2000 Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 It should be able to handle -6 C. without protection...especially when bigger....its looking great albeit a little slow ….but that's most likely due to being in Switzerland? David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a 200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida 30 ft. elevation and sandy soil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alicehunter2000 Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 Is that T. princeps behind it? David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a 200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida 30 ft. elevation and sandy soil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maesy Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 Yes that was unprotected. -5.8 just after planting. I also would say -6/-7 shouldn't be a problem. It has made four fronds this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maesy Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 That's how it looks today. The trachycarpus at the back is a naini tal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrppetrov Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 Hi Maesy, Nice looking palm,should speed up in the future and become real queen. You mentioned -6 c when planted,any foliar damage observed? My one is still unprotected,but not really concerned after your observations regarding cold tolerance. Planted this April,photo taken August. Regards 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maesy Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 It had a tiny spot in its emerging spear, but thats all. As you can see, there are some damaged fronds from last winter. But I can not tell you what the lows were inside the protection. Yours looks fine too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 Update, how's it looking this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrppetrov Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Have some old photos, but will take better one later this month.This winter the palm has seen -2,7 on two occasions ,but didn’t seem to bother.Is not very fast, but most likely is related to lack of water. Regards 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrppetrov Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Photos was taken on 10 of May this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OC2Texaspalmlvr Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 @maesy Any update on your JxS T J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maesy Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 Its not growing fast at my place. Only two to three fronds per season . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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