Mauna Kea Cloudforest Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Scary facts about the looming drought: below normal rainfall to persist into March 2014 2013 driest year for Central and Northern California by a long shot since recorded weather history State of emergency for California being requested veggie prices will go through the roof fruit prices will go through the roof Abnormally high rainfall in Southeastern California (Riverside hills are green in December?) See references below California 2014 drought could send waves through US commodity marketshttp://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Suppliers2/California-2014-drought-could-send-waves-through-US-commodity-marketsLawmakers including U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein, U.S. Congressman and Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy, and state Republican State leaders Bob Huff and Connie Conway – are calling on Governor Jerry Brown and President Barack Obama to address California’s dire water supply conditions by declaring a state drought emergency. “Some of our reservoirs are at the lowest levels since 1977. Last year we had lettuce at $7 a box and already it is at $23 a box,”California Drought Builds; No Winter Relief in Sighthttp://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/fire-crews-work-to-contain/21189433"It will remain dry through February and probably early March in California," AccuWeather.com Lead Long-Range Forecaster Paul Pastelok said. California's drought has worsened this year overall making it the driest state in the West as of mid-December. Oregon and Nevada take a close second and third, respectively. "2013 will probably end up the driest year on record for the state of California," Pastelok said. "The reservoirs are already hurting from last winter's drought; this will be a serious situation."NOAA Drought Outlook: below rainfall to persist into March 2014http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/expert_assessment/sdo_summary.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma99 Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) While the Sierra has been in the mid 50s/low 60s so I'm sure there is melting of what little is there. Pretty bad situation.. Edited December 23, 2013 by enigma99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauna Kea Cloudforest Posted December 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Pretty horrible skiing season, not looking good for any snowpack whatsoever. If we have dry weather into March, this is gonna be nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenikakias Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Build darned dams everywhere you can, even small ones with local capacity only. The EE finances the built of such dams in Greece. Many will argue that dames destroy enviroment, but this argument is only a short viewing one. I can assert without any reservation how new life accumulates in previously dry land, fruiting trees (and palms) gather insects and birds (birds can learn within a short time to feed on previously unknown fruits) and birds can also learn quickly to drink and bath using the dripping system, they can even remeber when dripping system sets on and gather nearby a couple of minutes prior to start time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennybenjamin Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Brisbane and many places in Australia have copped very bad droughts over last decade ( I'm sure many more previously as well ). About 6 years ago the main dam that supplies Brisbane was down to about 13% capacity, anything under about 8% and the water is too murky to be any good anyway... It was pretty scary that in this day and age a major city nearly ran out of drinking water!!! Associated with this was severe water restrictions and gardens were not allowed to be watered using the towns water. This was obviously very bad for gardens and the horticultural industry!!! A few years ago we had major flooding and the dams filled to well over 100% capacity ( I know over 100% sounds stupid but that's how it was reported ). Good luck!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzer Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 snail darter, lawns. golf courses, cemetaries (combine the two, imagine the sand traps?), crappy water management boards, illiterate mow and blow crews who can't read an irrigation clock to save their life....think I'll stop there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerarch Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Build darned dams everywhere you can, even small ones with local capacity only. The EE finances the built of such dams in Greece. Many will argue that dames destroy enviroment, but this argument is only a short viewing one. I can assert without any reservation how new life accumulates in previously dry land, fruiting trees (and palms) gather insects and birds (birds can learn within a short time to feed on previously unknown fruits) and birds can also learn quickly to drink and bath using the dripping system, they can even remeber when dripping system sets on and gather nearby a couple of minutes prior to start time. There are already dams all over California, don't know how much room there is for more. There are also 38 million people in California, and a ton of agriculture. All in an fairly arid State. Corpus Christi, TX, near salt water, zone 9b/10a! Except when it isn't and everything gets nuked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauna Kea Cloudforest Posted December 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Build darned dams everywhere you can, even small ones with local capacity only. The EE finances the built of such dams in Greece. Many will argue that dames destroy enviroment, but this argument is only a short viewing one. I can assert without any reservation how new life accumulates in previously dry land, fruiting trees (and palms) gather insects and birds (birds can learn within a short time to feed on previously unknown fruits) and birds can also learn quickly to drink and bath using the dripping system, they can even remeber when dripping system sets on and gather nearby a couple of minutes prior to start time. There are already dams all over California, don't know how much room there is for more. There are also 38 million people in California, and a ton of agriculture. All in an fairly arid State. We're in a relatively wet part of the state where we manage to get over 100 inches of rain per year in places, but 2013 provided maybe 30" out of those 100. We have 100% local supply. It's not just us that count on tbe rain, the entire ecosystem and the associated miles of redwoods need the rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turfpro01 Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 A lot of the water used in central CA is pumped from the underground aquifer by farmers and cities. Building dams is just going to take away from water that should be running under ground. Farmers already have to keep drilling deeper because all the water gets sent to southern CA, and also used faster that it is filling back up.If it got real bad for several years, you would see a ban on watering landscaping, at least on lawns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Not good at all. This is what happens when a major population lives in an arid area. It's just a matter of time before a weather anomaly comes along and causes havoc. We've had similar issues on the west coast of Oz, but admittedly we get 3 times So Cal's rainfall and we have around 2 million population so we are nowhere near as efficient in water use as those in So Cal. Here they have built desalination plants along the coast. These use large amounts of energy, but we are now seeing more and more wind farms being set up to supposedly take the pressure off fossil fuel energy production. I don't envy So Cal's situation. Often governments, instead of being forward thinkers and planning for these inevitable situations, just hope it doesn't happen in their term of office and do nothing or very little, until the problem is so severe that doing nothing will cost them votes. Here in the west of Oz, we have a huge water source in our tropical north, that dwarfs all water sources around, in Lake Argyle in the Ord river. They've been talking about bringing a pipe down to Perth since the 60's. It seems they can do it with a gas pipeline, but as yet they've done nothing with the water pipeline. I suppose you can't export water. I think water will be one of those most valuable resources that as Earths population climbs and we keep damaging the environment will likely be the cause of future conflicts and problems. 1 Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Los Altos Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 We'll have to deal with the situation and there will be mandatory conservation if the rains don't materialize but it's too early to panic. These drought predictions have occurred many times in the past before late winter and spring rains turned things around despite previous predictions of continued dry weather. Jim in Los Altos, CA SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level zone 10a/9b sunset zone 16 300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground Las Palmas Design Facebook Page Las Palmas Design & Associates Elegant Homes and Gardens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenikakias Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 Yep, I fully agree with Tyrone's final conclusion. We focus to much on the problem of fossil-fuels and overlook the imminent and more vital future problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauna Kea Cloudforest Posted December 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 We'll have to deal with the situation and there will be mandatory conservation if the rains don't materialize but it's too early to panic. These drought predictions have occurred many times in the past before late winter and spring rains turned things around despite previous predictions of continued dry weather. It's called miracle March and it has never failed until last Spring. This year, there is the potential for such a failure again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro 65 Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Not good at all. This is what happens when a major population lives in an arid area. It's just a matter of time before a weather anomaly comes along and causes havoc. We've had similar issues on the west coast of Oz, but admittedly we get 3 times So Cal's rainfall and we have around 2 million population so we are nowhere near as efficient in water use as those in So Cal. Here they have built desalination plants along the coast. These use large amounts of energy, but we are now seeing more and more wind farms being set up to supposedly take the pressure off fossil fuel energy production. I don't envy So Cal's situation. Often governments, instead of being forward thinkers and planning for these inevitable situations, just hope it doesn't happen in their term of office and do nothing or very little, until the problem is so severe that doing nothing will cost them votes. Here in the west of Oz, we have a huge water source in our tropical north, that dwarfs all water sources around, in Lake Argyle in the Ord river. They've been talking about bringing a pipe down to Perth since the 60's. It seems they can do it with a gas pipeline, but as yet they've done nothing with the water pipeline. I suppose you can't export water. I think water will be one of those most valuable resources that as Earths population climbs and we keep damaging the environment will likely be the cause of future conflicts and problems. Yes , as Nostradamus predicted 500 yrs ago..World War 3 will be fought for "Water".. Climate is certainly changing , population is certainly exploding and "some " areas of the World are becoming "drier" and some areas are becoming "wetter". "Nothing Lasts Forever" Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma99 Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Lol Nostradamus. Well we got 20% of the worlds freshwater in the great lakes so we are good in the US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Los Altos Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 Let's hope that Accuweather's forecast is correct and we have significant rains in CA the first and second weeks of January. If so, maybe it will be the start of good things to come. Jim in Los Altos, CA SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level zone 10a/9b sunset zone 16 300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground Las Palmas Design Facebook Page Las Palmas Design & Associates Elegant Homes and Gardens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dypsisdean Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Let's hope that Accuweather's forecast is correct and we have significant rains in CA the first and second weeks of January. If so, maybe it will be the start of good things to come.My long range "go to" charts also indicate the storm door opening for the first half of January. And it looks like 'warmer' (less northerly) storms. That would be nice. Kona, on The Big Island Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma99 Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 (edited) Hmm... which models? Edited December 28, 2013 by enigma99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Case Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 My 2 cents..... The current 'plan' to divert water via canals from the delta to SoCal will cause the death of the habitats in the California Delta, destroy the agriculture, and the bargain, cost $67 billion for which there is no mechanism to repay. Imagine how many desalinization plants could be built for the same money......oh, that's right, no construction on the precious Pacific Coast..... John Case Brentwood CA Owner and curator of Hana Keu Garden USDA Zone 9b more or less, Sunset Zone 14 in winter 9 in summer "Its always exciting the first time you save the world. Its a real thrill!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF IN MODESTO Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 I find it amazing the taxpayer costs and tenacity of those fat cats involved, just to supply socal with water to build more houses for wealthy people.( if the water was for Ag , I would be ok with it. ) My plan....Tear down the stinking SoCal Ghettos first, then create "green" ghetto high rises camouflaged in the shape of giant Jubeas just like they do cell towers . ( the displaced people could live with relatives) These new green high rises ( Ghetto's ) would be designed to use a minimum water and capitalize of socal's mild climate without power hungry A/C or heat units. this will save a lot of water and electricity.( the energy saved, would then be sent north to the San Joaquin valley and SF bay Area and sold at discounted rates to subsidise high electricity costs during our chilly winter and broiling summers. Then use the money that is earmarked for a tunnel under the delta to create a subway tunnel under LA to relieve the crazy freeway system. Leave Norcal delta water alone.... SF bay area needs it to build there version on LA. LOL... I say these things tongue in cheek of course. Modesto, CA USDA 9b July/August average 95f/63f Dec/Jan average 55f/39f Average lowest winter temp 27f Record low temp 18f Record high temp 113f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauna Kea Cloudforest Posted December 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Let's hope that Accuweather's forecast is correct and we have significant rains in CA the first and second weeks of January. If so, maybe it will be the start of good things to come. My long range "go to" charts also indicate the storm door opening for the first half of January. And it looks like 'warmer' (less northerly) storms. That would be nice. Which charts do you look at? Currently no rain in sight at least until Jan 12. NWS says this: UNFORTUNATELY THE REGION IS FORECAST TO REMAIN DRY THROUGH AT LEAST THE NEXT 7 TO 10 DAYS. THE CLIMATE PREDICTION CENTERS 8 TO 14 DAY OUTLOOK (VALID FROM JANUARY 6TH THROUGH JANUARY 12TH) CALLS FOR WELL BELOW NORMAL PRECIPITATION FOR THE ENTIRE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma99 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 My bananas have been growing but I may not have any water this summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dypsisdean Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Let's hope that Accuweather's forecast is correct and we have significant rains in CA the first and second weeks of January. If so, maybe it will be the start of good things to come.My long range "go to" charts also indicate the storm door opening for the first half of January. And it looks like 'warmer' (less northerly) storms. That would be nice. Which charts do you look at? Currently no rain in sight at least until Jan 12. NWS says this:UNFORTUNATELY THE REGION IS FORECAST TO REMAIN DRY THROUGH ATLEAST THE NEXT 7 TO 10 DAYS. THE CLIMATE PREDICTION CENTERS 8 TO14 DAY OUTLOOK (VALID FROM JANUARY 6TH THROUGH JANUARY 12TH) CALLSFOR WELL BELOW NORMAL PRECIPITATION FOR THE ENTIRE STATE OFCALIFORNIA.Yep - things backed off about 24 hrs. after I posted. When I posted it had three storms marching right into north/central CA.But here is what I used. You may be interested. Go to the chart in the lower left - you can java animate out 384 hours with precipitation and some other metrics.http://weather.hawaii.edu Kona, on The Big Island Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauna Kea Cloudforest Posted January 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 So here's the tally so far for our area, direct from the National Weather Service: CLIMATE...SAN FRANCISCO HAS REPORTED MEASURABLE RAINFALL ONLY 6 DAYS SO FAR FOR THE WATER YEAR (GOING BACK TO JULY 1, 2013). THAT TIES THE RECORD FOR FEWEST NUMBER OF DATES. WITH JUST 1.30" OF RAIN SO FAR FOR THE CURRENT WATER YEAR, SANTA CRUZ IS HAVING ITS DRIEST START ON RECORD. IN A TYPICAL YEAR, 12.55" WOULD ALREADY BE RECORDED. The long term forecasts are suggesting the storm door opens Jan 20th for some more significant rainfall. But until then, nothing but trace rainfall is predicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauna Kea Cloudforest Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 No rain in sight, any sign of rain for Jan has dissapeared. Drought expected to worsen. RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD BEHIND THE TROF AS IT HEADS TO THE EAST. LATEST GUIDANCE IN HAS GOOD AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE MODELS THAT THE RIDGE WILL RESTRENGTHEN ENOUGH TO PUSH THE STORM TRACK BACK TO ALASKA AND CANADA. ZERO SIGNS OF ANYTHING UNDERCUTTING THE RIDGE, IN FACT LONGER RANGE GUIDANCE ACTUALLY HAS THE RIDGE SPREADING OUT AND COVERING MORE OF THE WESTERN CONUS. THINGS LOOK SO DRY THAT THE 16 DAY GFS SHOWS VIRTUALLY NO RAINFALL FOR THE ENTIRE PERIOD FOR ALL OF CALIFORNIA. INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT PACIFIC STORMS AND HYDRO ISSUES, THE LAST FULL WEEK OF JANUARY WILL FEATURE MORE RECORD HIGHS AND FIRE WEATHER CONCERNS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenikakias Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 If drought continues to next summer, you will have problems with soil, even if you irrigate, soil will constrict and many roots will die back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkthulhu Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) Does Cali have any sort of tax credit or water bill reduction for homeowners who employ a cistern or water barrel collection system to provide for landscaping needs? Something we've been toying with is the use of aquifers as a storage space for water. If they can agree on methods to avoid groundwater contamination, they would like to pump water into the aquifer that would have otherwise been lost to run-off and then extract that water later during the lean times. I'm not as familiar with California geology, but there should be at least a few formations that could accommodate stored water in this way? As for the canals plan. I agree, really really dumb. Considering how well the technology is working lately, explain to me again why you can't have a couple dozen desalination plants on the coast? Or even, do it a couple miles inland and pipe the sea-water in and the brine out? Edited January 13, 2014 by Funkthulhu "Ph'nglui mglw'napalma Funkthulhu R'Lincolnea wgah'palm fhtagn" "In his house at Lincoln, dread Funkthulhu plants palm trees." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauna Kea Cloudforest Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 If drought continues to next summer, you will have problems with soil, even if you irrigate, soil will constrict and many roots will die back. I don't even want to think as to what this could mean. The soil is already bone dry, this is definitely a disaster in the making. If we continue to not get any rain, soil constriction is the last of my worries. Large portions of the West's forests will burn. This includes all of California, Nevada and Oregon and other parts of the West. All the redwoods up and down the coast are critically endangered as there has NEVER been a period this dry in the history of recorded weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF IN MODESTO Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Looks very bad here. Way above normal temps have made things worse. Here in Modesto, we've had only 1.5 inch of rain since July. Jeff Modesto, CA USDA 9b July/August average 95f/63f Dec/Jan average 55f/39f Average lowest winter temp 27f Record low temp 18f Record high temp 113f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauna Kea Cloudforest Posted January 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 As per NWS tonite: DISCUSSION...AS OF 9:10 PM PST TUESDAY...AT THE CLOSE OF THIS CALENDAR DAY WE ENTER A DEEPER PHASE OF THE CALIFORNIA DROUGHT LARGELY UNSEEN BY MANY ALIVE TODAY. THIS IS CERTAINLY THE CASE FOR SAN FRANCISCO AS ONE WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK PRIOR TO SAN FRANCISCO`S RECORD KEEPING (1850) TO FIND DRIER CALENDAR YEARS...AND AS OF MIDNIGHT TONIGHT...DRIER WATER YEARS...IF THEY EXIST. THE SEVERITY OF THIS SERIOUS LACK OF RAINFALL GROWS BY THE DAY AND WILL SERVE AS A BENCHMARK FOR FUTURE ANOMALOUS WEATHER PATTERN AND CLIMATE STUDIES AND RESEARCH. FOR MORE INFO ON SAN FRANCISCO`S CURRENT WATER YEAR PLEASE REFER TO THE CLIMATE SECTION BELOW. IS THERE ANY RAIN IN SIGHT? UNBELIEVABLY NO. WE DO NOT SEE ANY HINT OR SIGN OF AN APPRECIABLE JET STREAM PATTERN SHIFT FAVORABLE TO BRING RAIN TO CALIFORNIA IN THE NEXT 10 DAYS WITH MODERATE TO HIGH CONFIDENCE. THE CLIMATE PREDICTION CENTER FORECASTS AN ABOVE NORMAL LONG-WAVE RIDGE TO BE STUCK OVER THE WESTERN CONUS AT LEAST THROUGH DAY 10 WITH SOME POSSIBLE SUBSIDING OF THE LONG-WAVE RIDGE IN DAYS 8-14. OF COURSE THE ONGOING RAIN DEFICIT SINCE JANUARY 2013 WILL VERY SOON BE SETTING A NEW DAILY PRECEDENT EVERY WAY ONE LOOKS AT IT USING STATISTICS...UNTIL IF ANY APPRECIABLE RAINFALL ARRIVES. AS AN ASIDE...TYPICALLY THERE IS A MID-WINTER BREAK FROM RAINFALL APPROXIMATELY THIS TIME OF YEAR...EVEN IN A STRONG EL NINO/ABOVE NORMAL RAIN SEASON THERE IS A SHORT AND PERCEIVABLE BREAK FROM THE RAIN (LASTING ~1 WEEK IN EL NINO YEARS AND SLIGHTLY LONGER IN ENSO NEUTRAL YEARS). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Does Cali have any sort of tax credit or water bill reduction for homeowners who employ a cistern or water barrel collection system to provide for landscaping needs? Something we've been toying with is the use of aquifers as a storage space for water. If they can agree on methods to avoid groundwater contamination, they would like to pump water into the aquifer that would have otherwise been lost to run-off and then extract that water later during the lean times. I'm not as familiar with California geology, but there should be at least a few formations that could accommodate stored water in this way? As for the canals plan. I agree, really really dumb. Considering how well the technology is working lately, explain to me again why you can't have a couple dozen desalination plants on the coast? Or even, do it a couple miles inland and pipe the sea-water in and the brine out? Because your thoughts make too much sense that's why. And the California Coastal Commission has no common sense either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silas_Sancona Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Just read another story about the delta project. $25 billion.. could be better spent on desalination. Considering the states current population, suggested future growth, and the fact that most people still scoff at the thought of giving up their lawns, I don't see how digging a tunnel, let alone diverting more water is going to solve the water issues there + have enough for Ag interests + enough for all the ecosystems which depend on it. -Nathan- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma99 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 This image just about sums up how bad the situation is. Taken today 1/16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Matt Bradford "Manambe Lavaka" Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay) 10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation) 9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyranch Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Wunderground blog with more discussion. Folsom Lake Source for images: Ron's Photo World Grasses germinated with Nov-Dec rains failed to grow. No green hills yet. Live oaks are holding fewer leaves. Fruit trees are emerging from dormancy early exposing the flowers to frost damge risk. Native plants are waking up but with little water in soil. If this continues the native woodlands and forests will build up a lot of dead wood this summer setting the stage for a horrible fire season. Soils are August-like dry, compacting, and crusting which will inhibit percolation if/when rains return. If it rains too hard it will just run off. No rain predicted for rest of January. If the snaking jet stream shifts east it may bring some moisture but more likely colder dry air from Alaska. We need the jet to straighten out to bring Pacific moisture from due west to catch up. February and March will tell our fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyB Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 80º f right now, 11% rh. Dang, I love this weather, but it's dry. Matt Bradford "Manambe Lavaka" Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay) 10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation) 9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma99 Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 We might have a shower on the 28th. But that is a long way out and anything can change.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma99 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Well, so much for that... showers are no longer in the forecast. No surprise. I am going to try and get my stuff green and watered now because it might be a lonnng summer with big restrictions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauna Kea Cloudforest Posted January 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 This is really starting to get scary. Expect some pretty serious produce and fruit shortages this year, prices will skyrocket. Looks like many ranchers are selling their horses to slaughter houses because they can't afford the hay to keep them alive as the land is bone dry and the grass isn't growing like it normally does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alicehunter2000 Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 And to think .....all that water sitting there in the Pacific and no desalination plants because of government and bureaucracy. David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a 200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida 30 ft. elevation and sandy soil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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