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Thanks to everyone who has added to this thread.....and to keep it going.....Cocos nucifera 'Atlantic Tall' West Palm Beach, Florida.

Those are great ones!

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

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Sorry to bump this thread if it has run its course, but I am dying to know...what do those who are familiar with Jamaican Talls think of my new "Jamaican Tall" seedling that I posted photos of? Does it look like the real deal? Thoughts?

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Sorry to bump this thread if it has run its course, but I am dying to know...what do those who are familiar with Jamaican Talls think of my new "Jamaican Tall" seedling that I posted photos of? Does it look like the real deal? Thoughts?

No problem...Hope this thread never gets old.

Pictures in post 35 & 36 look like a golden Malay. Hard to tell in pic 37 but it too looks like a dwarf variety.

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Sorry to bump this thread if it has run its course, but I am dying to know...what do those who are familiar with Jamaican Talls think of my new "Jamaican Tall" seedling that I posted photos of? Does it look like the real deal? Thoughts?

Unfortunately it's a golden Malayan. The seed size and shape, as well as the petiole colors, are distinctly this variety. Your Hawaiian coconut is a tall type though!

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

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Speaking of Golden Malayans, here are some from Darwin

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Gold Coast, Queensland Latitude 28S. Mild, Humid Subtropical climate. Rainfall - not consistent enough!

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Okay, thank you for clearing that up. The second I opened the box and saw the orange, I thought, "what the *&%$#". In doing some reading though, somebody on one of the threads mentioned that some Jamaican Talls have turned up with orange petioles. Most likely though, it is a $55 golden Malayan dwarf seedling. Like I needed another one of those! Darn. Time to make a trip to Kopsick I guess.

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And now here comes Cocos zeylandica. NZ's native coconut...

Well, I let you search and find out.

Fascinating anyway!

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Coldest month (February/March) average minimum temperature : 14,5°C (58°F) / Coldest month (February/March) average maximum temperature : 21°C (70°F)

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Cocos nucifera.

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Sebastian, garden on La Palma island, 370 m (1200 feet) above sea level / USDA Zone 11/12 ; Heat zone IV / V

Record High: 42°C (107F) / Record Low: 9°C (48°F). Rain: 600 mm (24 inches) per year with dry/wet seasons. Warm Season: July-November / Cool Season: December-June
Warmest month (August/September) average minimum temperature : 21°C (70°F) / Warmest month (August/September) average maximum temperature : 28°C (82°F)
Coldest month (February/March) average minimum temperature : 14,5°C (58°F) / Coldest month (February/March) average maximum temperature : 21°C (70°F)

Temperature of the sea : minimum of 20°C (68°F) in march, maximum of 25°C (77°F) in September/October.


 

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Dos Cocos.

Well, better said: "Dos cocoteros", as Cocos is not only the Latin name for the genus, but also the (plural) Spanish name for the fruit: un coco, dos cocos, tres cocos, etc. The whole plant is called "cocotero".

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Sebastian, garden on La Palma island, 370 m (1200 feet) above sea level / USDA Zone 11/12 ; Heat zone IV / V

Record High: 42°C (107F) / Record Low: 9°C (48°F). Rain: 600 mm (24 inches) per year with dry/wet seasons. Warm Season: July-November / Cool Season: December-June
Warmest month (August/September) average minimum temperature : 21°C (70°F) / Warmest month (August/September) average maximum temperature : 28°C (82°F)
Coldest month (February/March) average minimum temperature : 14,5°C (58°F) / Coldest month (February/March) average maximum temperature : 21°C (70°F)

Temperature of the sea : minimum of 20°C (68°F) in march, maximum of 25°C (77°F) in September/October.


 

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Cocos nucifera.

This tall variety looks very healthy. Do you know what kind are planted more often there? I enjoy seeing pictures of coconuts from the Canaries, especially since we are at the same latitude, and the Spanish architecture is beautiful.

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Could not find a photo of the mama dwarf Golden Malayan of the seedling I sent you, but here is a photo of a dwarf Samoan in the Garden at Wakiu.post-3769-0-43711800-1377540677_thumb.jp

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Visit my palms here

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And now here comes Cocos zeylandica. NZ's native coconut...

Well, I let you search and find out.

Fascinating anyway!

Uh, isn't that extinct? Like, long dead and fossilized extinct, not "whoops we introduced rats" extinct?

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"Ph'nglui mglw'napalma Funkthulhu R'Lincolnea wgah'palm fhtagn"
"In his house at Lincoln, dread Funkthulhu plants palm trees."

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A couple more:

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One of my two Malayan dwarfs

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Palm in Costa Rica, Malayan gold?

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Pic from west Oahu, Hawaii

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Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

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Crazy coconut, posted before but a must have for any coconut thread.

Hi Doug! How have you been? Do you know what causes them to do this?

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And now here comes Cocos zeylandica. NZ's native coconut...

Well, I let you search and find out.

Fascinating anyway!

Uh, isn't that extinct? Like, long dead and fossilized extinct, not "whoops we introduced rats" extinct?

Yep, it's long dead extinct (too bad :crying: ).

But a friend shown me a couple of charcoal-looking fossil seeds when I was in NZ.

I couldn't resist to post it here.

It's a true coconut species, after all! :winkie:

Sebastian, garden on La Palma island, 370 m (1200 feet) above sea level / USDA Zone 11/12 ; Heat zone IV / V

Record High: 42°C (107F) / Record Low: 9°C (48°F). Rain: 600 mm (24 inches) per year with dry/wet seasons. Warm Season: July-November / Cool Season: December-June
Warmest month (August/September) average minimum temperature : 21°C (70°F) / Warmest month (August/September) average maximum temperature : 28°C (82°F)
Coldest month (February/March) average minimum temperature : 14,5°C (58°F) / Coldest month (February/March) average maximum temperature : 21°C (70°F)

Temperature of the sea : minimum of 20°C (68°F) in march, maximum of 25°C (77°F) in September/October.


 

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Cocos nucifera.

This tall variety looks very healthy. Do you know what kind are planted more often there? I enjoy seeing pictures of coconuts from the Canaries, especially since we are at the same latitude, and the Spanish architecture is beautiful.

"Do you know what kind are planted more often there?"

Except for one, I don't have a clue, unfortunately. And nursery men/women usually have no idea...

I noticed that there are at least 4 different varieties in Tazacorte / Puerto Naos. And probably quite a few hybrids too.

Sadly, the most commonly cultivated one is the least happy one: Golden Malayan (BTW the only one I can identify, if I'm not wrong).

It is (at least here) less vigorous and very sensitive to winter storms, and particularly prone to white flies and scales. The only good point: they produce a lot of golden fruits.

In my garden, it is the ugliest one. A shame as I love the plant when it's healthy.

It seems also a little more tender to long cool winter in my upland garden (not cold, there's no cold here). It only grows satisfactorily from July/August until November.

On the other hand, there is a less common, completely green, totally distinct variety which is always very happy and vigorous here. Can't tell which one it is.

I'll go down the road and take more photos... But when, I don't know!!! :D .

Sebastian, garden on La Palma island, 370 m (1200 feet) above sea level / USDA Zone 11/12 ; Heat zone IV / V

Record High: 42°C (107F) / Record Low: 9°C (48°F). Rain: 600 mm (24 inches) per year with dry/wet seasons. Warm Season: July-November / Cool Season: December-June
Warmest month (August/September) average minimum temperature : 21°C (70°F) / Warmest month (August/September) average maximum temperature : 28°C (82°F)
Coldest month (February/March) average minimum temperature : 14,5°C (58°F) / Coldest month (February/March) average maximum temperature : 21°C (70°F)

Temperature of the sea : minimum of 20°C (68°F) in march, maximum of 25°C (77°F) in September/October.


 

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Not sure of the varieties, but here goes.....


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Keralan Backwaters, India

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Keralan Backwaters, India

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Goa, India

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Nha Trang, Vietnam

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Koh Mak, Thailand

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The pictures in this thread are truly amazing and all, but I have to be honest...my all time favorite coconut has to be...

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Tolerates freezing temperatures, no lethal yellowing, and gives an authentic taste of the tropics...

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And now here comes Cocos zeylandica. NZ's native coconut...

Well, I let you search and find out.

Fascinating anyway!

Uh, isn't that extinct? Like, long dead and fossilized extinct, not "whoops we introduced rats" extinct?

Yep, it's long dead extinct (too bad :crying: ).

But a friend shown me a couple of charcoal-looking fossil seeds when I was in NZ.

I couldn't resist to post it here.

It's a true coconut species, after all! :winkie:

This is what happens when you start google'ing for "Evolution" and "Coconut": http://aciar.gov.au/files/node/453/mono101.pdf

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"Ph'nglui mglw'napalma Funkthulhu R'Lincolnea wgah'palm fhtagn"
"In his house at Lincoln, dread Funkthulhu plants palm trees."

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I took these photos of my "rescue coconut" and my huge fabulous Dwarf Red Spicata I planted 4 years ago. I will post photos of my other coconuts later

Rescue coconut

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Cocos nucifera Dwarf Red Spicata

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Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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Boy Meg, that is some good growth on that 'Red spicata'. I've never heard of that variety of coconut until now.

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Hilo, Hawaii

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I took these photos of my "rescue coconut" and my huge fabulous Dwarf Red Spicata I planted 4 years ago. I will post photos of my other coconuts later

Rescue coconut

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Cocos nucifera Dwarf Red Spicata

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Is that 4 years from a 3 gallon size or sprout? It looks like it starting to trunk?

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I took these photos of my "rescue coconut" and my huge fabulous Dwarf Red Spicata I planted 4 years ago. I will post photos of my other coconuts later

Rescue coconut

attachicon.gifCocos nucifera from canal 01 8-28-13.JPG attachicon.gifCocos nucifera from canal 02 8-28-13.JPG

Cocos nucifera Dwarf Red Spicata

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Is that 4 years from a 3 gallon size or sprout? It looks like it starting to trunk?

Planted from a 5g in spring 2009. Leaves stood about 4'. After the record freeze in Jan 2010 it didn't grow at all for at least 6 months. Overall, though, it's grown quite quickly.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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I took these photos of my "rescue coconut" and my huge fabulous Dwarf Red Spicata I planted 4 years ago. I will post photos of my other coconuts later

Rescue coconut

attachicon.gifCocos nucifera from canal 01 8-28-13.JPG attachicon.gifCocos nucifera from canal 02 8-28-13.JPG

Cocos nucifera Dwarf Red Spicata

attachicon.gifCocos nucifera dwarf red spicata 01 8-28-13.JPG attachicon.gifCocos nucifera dwarf red spicata 04 8-28-13.JPG

attachicon.gifCocos nucifera dwarf red spicata 03 8-28-13.JPG attachicon.gifCocos nucifera dwarf red spicata 02 8-28-13.JPG

Is that 4 years from a 3 gallon size or sprout? It looks like it starting to trunk?

Planted from a 5g in spring 2009. Leaves stood about 4'. After the record freeze in Jan 2010 it didn't grow at all for at least 6 months. Overall, though, it's grown quite quickly.

Red Spicata is one I would like to add to my collection. I think it is hard to find though.

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FNGLA seed auction site usually sells red spicata coconuts once or twice a year. You may have to take multiples but starting bids are low.

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Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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And now here comes Cocos zeylandica. NZ's native coconut...

Well, I let you search and find out.

Fascinating anyway!

Uh, isn't that extinct? Like, long dead and fossilized extinct, not "whoops we introduced rats" extinct?

Yep, it's long dead extinct (too bad :crying: ).

But a friend shown me a couple of charcoal-looking fossil seeds when I was in NZ.

I couldn't resist to post it here.

It's a true coconut species, after all! :winkie:

This is what happens when you start google'ing for "Evolution" and "Coconut": http://aciar.gov.au/files/node/453/mono101.pdf

Wow! A thousand, no, a million thanks for this link!

This is a most interesting and useful article.

Erik, I am greatful for your contribution!!!

Sebastian, garden on La Palma island, 370 m (1200 feet) above sea level / USDA Zone 11/12 ; Heat zone IV / V

Record High: 42°C (107F) / Record Low: 9°C (48°F). Rain: 600 mm (24 inches) per year with dry/wet seasons. Warm Season: July-November / Cool Season: December-June
Warmest month (August/September) average minimum temperature : 21°C (70°F) / Warmest month (August/September) average maximum temperature : 28°C (82°F)
Coldest month (February/March) average minimum temperature : 14,5°C (58°F) / Coldest month (February/March) average maximum temperature : 21°C (70°F)

Temperature of the sea : minimum of 20°C (68°F) in march, maximum of 25°C (77°F) in September/October.


 

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Not sure of the varieties, but here goes.....

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Keralan Backwaters, India

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Keralan Backwaters, India

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Goa, India

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Nha Trang, Vietnam

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Koh Mak, Thailand

PalmVN, those photos are just beautiful.

En masse plantings and groves are always incredible, but when it's coconuts, I feel something very special.

More cocos, everywhere!

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Sebastian, garden on La Palma island, 370 m (1200 feet) above sea level / USDA Zone 11/12 ; Heat zone IV / V

Record High: 42°C (107F) / Record Low: 9°C (48°F). Rain: 600 mm (24 inches) per year with dry/wet seasons. Warm Season: July-November / Cool Season: December-June
Warmest month (August/September) average minimum temperature : 21°C (70°F) / Warmest month (August/September) average maximum temperature : 28°C (82°F)
Coldest month (February/March) average minimum temperature : 14,5°C (58°F) / Coldest month (February/March) average maximum temperature : 21°C (70°F)

Temperature of the sea : minimum of 20°C (68°F) in march, maximum of 25°C (77°F) in September/October.


 

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Here are photos of the last 3 coconuts I own.

I was given this young palm by Peter in Guatemala a couple months ago. I planted it on our garden lot south of my husband's vine trellis to shield it from winter winds. Last week I gave it K-Mag and a dose of micros to green it up.

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Peter gave me this coconut as a germinated seed a few years ago. I have it planted in my back yard so it is protected by the house and other plantings. Those are so dense I couldn't get an unobstructed photo of the palm - a Panama Tall I believe.

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Last is a coconut I purchased as a germinated seed several winters ago at a gardenfest. I planted it on the berm overlooking the canal.

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Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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Oh come on folks, I know you got more delicious coco photos than this.

In my post I sometimes express "my" opinion. Warning, it may differ from "your" opinion. If so, please do not feel insulted, just state your own if you wish. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or any other damages

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I had many small just bearing here , but Larry wiped out half and replacing a fence meant many otherds got cut down .

Cyclone Yasi blew another down , as well as my Malay Golden Dwarf .

I had just spotted a spike comiong a few days before Yasi .post-354-0-48292200-1377947134_thumb.jpg

HAve 1 nut forming post-354-0-05468100-1377947286_thumb.jpg

and a few more on more recent spikes .post-354-0-26121800-1377947196_thumb.jpg.

I have posted here before about my efforts to prop it back up .

The massive one out front has come back well and is still dropping nuts ,

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Dwarf is not even 7 years old .. have pics of it when planted as a tiny 1 leaf nut .

Might have had a fruit in 6 years if not for Yasi .

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Michael in palm paradise,

Tully, wet tropics in Australia, over 4 meters of rain every year.

Home of the Golden Gumboot, its over 8m high , our record annual rainfall.

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Crazy coconut, posted before but a must have for any coconut thread.

Redant,

This is a dance they learned long time ago!

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Here in Ceylon, where was yours?

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Jungle Paradise in Sri Lanka

 

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I truly tried to take some coconut photos from our farm, but ended up with only a few. Most are volunteers which I'm forced to minimize these days. I'm pretty sure the two in the photo to the left are a dwarf variety planted by the previous owner just so to be hammock width apart. We haven't yet made the time to test that theory

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Don't worry, we do have hammock time, just on the covered porch when it rains!

Lots of coconuts from the two in the last photo. None yet from the younger tree in the middle photo, but a good support for orchids already!

Next visit I'll try for some picture postcard like shots near one of the lovely beaches we visit.

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I truly tried to take some coconut photos from our farm, but ended up with only a few. Most are volunteers which I'm forced to minimize these days. I'm pretty sure the two in the photo to the left are a dwarf variety planted by the previous owner just so to be hammock width apart. We haven't yet made the time to test that theory

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Don't worry, we do have hammock time, just on the covered porch when it rains!

Lots of coconuts from the two in the last photo. None yet from the younger tree in the middle photo, but a good support for orchids already!

Next visit I'll try for some picture postcard like shots near one of the lovely beaches we visit.

you're lucky to live in a place where coconuts grow like weeds. Do they have any local cultivars there?

BTW. your soil looks excellent for just about any kind of plants

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