redant Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Crazy coconut, posted before but a must have for any coconut thread. Quote Jupiter FL in the Zone formally known as 10A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeeth Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 Thanks to everyone who has added to this thread.....and to keep it going.....Cocos nucifera 'Atlantic Tall' West Palm Beach, Florida. Those are great ones! Quote Keith Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmsOrl Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Sorry to bump this thread if it has run its course, but I am dying to know...what do those who are familiar with Jamaican Talls think of my new "Jamaican Tall" seedling that I posted photos of? Does it look like the real deal? Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empireo22 Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Sorry to bump this thread if it has run its course, but I am dying to know...what do those who are familiar with Jamaican Talls think of my new "Jamaican Tall" seedling that I posted photos of? Does it look like the real deal? Thoughts? No problem...Hope this thread never gets old. Pictures in post 35 & 36 look like a golden Malay. Hard to tell in pic 37 but it too looks like a dwarf variety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeeth Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Sorry to bump this thread if it has run its course, but I am dying to know...what do those who are familiar with Jamaican Talls think of my new "Jamaican Tall" seedling that I posted photos of? Does it look like the real deal? Thoughts? Unfortunately it's a golden Malayan. The seed size and shape, as well as the petiole colors, are distinctly this variety. Your Hawaiian coconut is a tall type though! Quote Keith Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daryl Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Speaking of Golden Malayans, here are some from Darwin 1 Quote Gold Coast, Queensland Latitude 28S. Mild, Humid Subtropical climate. Rainfall - not consistent enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empireo22 Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Speaking of Golden Malayans, here are some from Darwin malay-coco-1.JPG malaydwarf.jpg The golden Malays in pic 1 are beautiful....ive never seen the leaves remain green below the crown on a golden malay like that.....must be the weather? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmsOrl Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Okay, thank you for clearing that up. The second I opened the box and saw the orange, I thought, "what the *&%$#". In doing some reading though, somebody on one of the threads mentioned that some Jamaican Talls have turned up with orange petioles. Most likely though, it is a $55 golden Malayan dwarf seedling. Like I needed another one of those! Darn. Time to make a trip to Kopsick I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stygiana Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 And now here comes Cocos zeylandica. NZ's native coconut... Well, I let you search and find out. Fascinating anyway! 1 Quote Sebastian, garden on La Palma island, 370 m (1200 feet) above sea level / USDA Zone 11/12 ; Heat zone IV / V Record High: 42°C (107F) / Record Low: 9°C (48°F). Rain: 600 mm (24 inches) per year with dry/wet seasons. Warm Season: July-November / Cool Season: December-June Warmest month (August/September) average minimum temperature : 21°C (70°F) / Warmest month (August/September) average maximum temperature : 28°C (82°F) Coldest month (February/March) average minimum temperature : 14,5°C (58°F) / Coldest month (February/March) average maximum temperature : 21°C (70°F) Temperature of the sea : minimum of 20°C (68°F) in march, maximum of 25°C (77°F) in September/October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stygiana Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Cocos nucifera. 1 Quote Sebastian, garden on La Palma island, 370 m (1200 feet) above sea level / USDA Zone 11/12 ; Heat zone IV / V Record High: 42°C (107F) / Record Low: 9°C (48°F). Rain: 600 mm (24 inches) per year with dry/wet seasons. Warm Season: July-November / Cool Season: December-June Warmest month (August/September) average minimum temperature : 21°C (70°F) / Warmest month (August/September) average maximum temperature : 28°C (82°F) Coldest month (February/March) average minimum temperature : 14,5°C (58°F) / Coldest month (February/March) average maximum temperature : 21°C (70°F) Temperature of the sea : minimum of 20°C (68°F) in march, maximum of 25°C (77°F) in September/October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stygiana Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Dos Cocos. Well, better said: "Dos cocoteros", as Cocos is not only the Latin name for the genus, but also the (plural) Spanish name for the fruit: un coco, dos cocos, tres cocos, etc. The whole plant is called "cocotero". 1 Quote Sebastian, garden on La Palma island, 370 m (1200 feet) above sea level / USDA Zone 11/12 ; Heat zone IV / V Record High: 42°C (107F) / Record Low: 9°C (48°F). Rain: 600 mm (24 inches) per year with dry/wet seasons. Warm Season: July-November / Cool Season: December-June Warmest month (August/September) average minimum temperature : 21°C (70°F) / Warmest month (August/September) average maximum temperature : 28°C (82°F) Coldest month (February/March) average minimum temperature : 14,5°C (58°F) / Coldest month (February/March) average maximum temperature : 21°C (70°F) Temperature of the sea : minimum of 20°C (68°F) in march, maximum of 25°C (77°F) in September/October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empireo22 Posted August 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Cocos nucifera. This tall variety looks very healthy. Do you know what kind are planted more often there? I enjoy seeing pictures of coconuts from the Canaries, especially since we are at the same latitude, and the Spanish architecture is beautiful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanapalms Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Could not find a photo of the mama dwarf Golden Malayan of the seedling I sent you, but here is a photo of a dwarf Samoan in the Garden at Wakiu. 1 Quote William Hana, Maui Land of the low lying heavens, the misty Uakea crowning the majestic Kauwiki. Visit my palms here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkthulhu Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 And now here comes Cocos zeylandica. NZ's native coconut... Well, I let you search and find out. Fascinating anyway! Uh, isn't that extinct? Like, long dead and fossilized extinct, not "whoops we introduced rats" extinct? 1 Quote "Ph'nglui mglw'napalma Funkthulhu R'Lincolnea wgah'palm fhtagn" "In his house at Lincoln, dread Funkthulhu plants palm trees." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realarch Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 A couple more: One of my two Malayan dwarfs Palm in Costa Rica, Malayan gold? Pic from west Oahu, Hawaii Tim 1 Quote Tim Hilo, Hawaii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanDimas Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Oooooh my gosh. Beautiful Pics! Keep them coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeeth Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Could not find a photo of the mama dwarf Golden Malayan of the seedling I sent you, but here is a photo of a dwarf Samoan in the Garden at Wakiu.Cocos nuciferos, Samoan dwarf, Wakiu, 12.12.jpg What a unique variety! Quote Keith Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empireo22 Posted August 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Could not find a photo of the mama dwarf Golden Malayan of the seedling I sent you, but here is a photo of a dwarf Samoan in the Garden at Wakiu.Cocos nuciferos, Samoan dwarf, Wakiu, 12.12.jpg That Samoan is amazing! Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empireo22 Posted August 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 A couple more: IMG_5069.jpg One of my two Malayan dwarfs IMG_7619.jpg Palm in Costa Rica, Malayan gold? coco1.jpg Pic from west Oahu, Hawaii Tim Tim, Thanks for sharing the pics. Is the first pic a green Malayan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empireo22 Posted August 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Crazy coconut, posted before but a must have for any coconut thread. Hi Doug! How have you been? Do you know what causes them to do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stygiana Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 And now here comes Cocos zeylandica. NZ's native coconut... Well, I let you search and find out. Fascinating anyway! Uh, isn't that extinct? Like, long dead and fossilized extinct, not "whoops we introduced rats" extinct? Yep, it's long dead extinct (too bad ). But a friend shown me a couple of charcoal-looking fossil seeds when I was in NZ. I couldn't resist to post it here. It's a true coconut species, after all! Quote Sebastian, garden on La Palma island, 370 m (1200 feet) above sea level / USDA Zone 11/12 ; Heat zone IV / V Record High: 42°C (107F) / Record Low: 9°C (48°F). Rain: 600 mm (24 inches) per year with dry/wet seasons. Warm Season: July-November / Cool Season: December-June Warmest month (August/September) average minimum temperature : 21°C (70°F) / Warmest month (August/September) average maximum temperature : 28°C (82°F) Coldest month (February/March) average minimum temperature : 14,5°C (58°F) / Coldest month (February/March) average maximum temperature : 21°C (70°F) Temperature of the sea : minimum of 20°C (68°F) in march, maximum of 25°C (77°F) in September/October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stygiana Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Cocos nucifera. This tall variety looks very healthy. Do you know what kind are planted more often there? I enjoy seeing pictures of coconuts from the Canaries, especially since we are at the same latitude, and the Spanish architecture is beautiful. "Do you know what kind are planted more often there?" Except for one, I don't have a clue, unfortunately. And nursery men/women usually have no idea... I noticed that there are at least 4 different varieties in Tazacorte / Puerto Naos. And probably quite a few hybrids too. Sadly, the most commonly cultivated one is the least happy one: Golden Malayan (BTW the only one I can identify, if I'm not wrong). It is (at least here) less vigorous and very sensitive to winter storms, and particularly prone to white flies and scales. The only good point: they produce a lot of golden fruits. In my garden, it is the ugliest one. A shame as I love the plant when it's healthy. It seems also a little more tender to long cool winter in my upland garden (not cold, there's no cold here). It only grows satisfactorily from July/August until November. On the other hand, there is a less common, completely green, totally distinct variety which is always very happy and vigorous here. Can't tell which one it is. I'll go down the road and take more photos... But when, I don't know!!! . Quote Sebastian, garden on La Palma island, 370 m (1200 feet) above sea level / USDA Zone 11/12 ; Heat zone IV / V Record High: 42°C (107F) / Record Low: 9°C (48°F). Rain: 600 mm (24 inches) per year with dry/wet seasons. Warm Season: July-November / Cool Season: December-June Warmest month (August/September) average minimum temperature : 21°C (70°F) / Warmest month (August/September) average maximum temperature : 28°C (82°F) Coldest month (February/March) average minimum temperature : 14,5°C (58°F) / Coldest month (February/March) average maximum temperature : 21°C (70°F) Temperature of the sea : minimum of 20°C (68°F) in march, maximum of 25°C (77°F) in September/October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmnutVN Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Not sure of the varieties, but here goes..... Keralan Backwaters, India Keralan Backwaters, India Goa, India Nha Trang, Vietnam Koh Mak, Thailand 1 Quote Nick C - Living it up in tropical 'Nam.... PHZ - 13 10°.57'N - 106°.50'E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalWill Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 The pictures in this thread are truly amazing and all, but I have to be honest...my all time favorite coconut has to be... Tolerates freezing temperatures, no lethal yellowing, and gives an authentic taste of the tropics... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkthulhu Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 And now here comes Cocos zeylandica. NZ's native coconut... Well, I let you search and find out. Fascinating anyway! Uh, isn't that extinct? Like, long dead and fossilized extinct, not "whoops we introduced rats" extinct? Yep, it's long dead extinct (too bad ). But a friend shown me a couple of charcoal-looking fossil seeds when I was in NZ. I couldn't resist to post it here. It's a true coconut species, after all! This is what happens when you start google'ing for "Evolution" and "Coconut": http://aciar.gov.au/files/node/453/mono101.pdf 1 Quote "Ph'nglui mglw'napalma Funkthulhu R'Lincolnea wgah'palm fhtagn" "In his house at Lincoln, dread Funkthulhu plants palm trees." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmatierMeg Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 I took these photos of my "rescue coconut" and my huge fabulous Dwarf Red Spicata I planted 4 years ago. I will post photos of my other coconuts later Rescue coconut Cocos nucifera Dwarf Red Spicata 1 1 Quote Meg Palms of Victory I shall wear Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise) Florida Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal Elevation: 15 feetI'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realarch Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Boy Meg, that is some good growth on that 'Red spicata'. I've never heard of that variety of coconut until now. Tim 1 Quote Tim Hilo, Hawaii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empireo22 Posted August 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 I took these photos of my "rescue coconut" and my huge fabulous Dwarf Red Spicata I planted 4 years ago. I will post photos of my other coconuts later Rescue coconut Cocos nucifera from canal 01 8-28-13.JPG Cocos nucifera from canal 02 8-28-13.JPG Cocos nucifera Dwarf Red Spicata Cocos nucifera dwarf red spicata 01 8-28-13.JPG Cocos nucifera dwarf red spicata 04 8-28-13.JPG Cocos nucifera dwarf red spicata 03 8-28-13.JPG Cocos nucifera dwarf red spicata 02 8-28-13.JPG Is that 4 years from a 3 gallon size or sprout? It looks like it starting to trunk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmatierMeg Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 I took these photos of my "rescue coconut" and my huge fabulous Dwarf Red Spicata I planted 4 years ago. I will post photos of my other coconuts later Rescue coconut Cocos nucifera from canal 01 8-28-13.JPG Cocos nucifera from canal 02 8-28-13.JPG Cocos nucifera Dwarf Red Spicata Cocos nucifera dwarf red spicata 01 8-28-13.JPG Cocos nucifera dwarf red spicata 04 8-28-13.JPG Cocos nucifera dwarf red spicata 03 8-28-13.JPG Cocos nucifera dwarf red spicata 02 8-28-13.JPG Is that 4 years from a 3 gallon size or sprout? It looks like it starting to trunk? Planted from a 5g in spring 2009. Leaves stood about 4'. After the record freeze in Jan 2010 it didn't grow at all for at least 6 months. Overall, though, it's grown quite quickly. Quote Meg Palms of Victory I shall wear Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise) Florida Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal Elevation: 15 feetI'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empireo22 Posted August 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 I took these photos of my "rescue coconut" and my huge fabulous Dwarf Red Spicata I planted 4 years ago. I will post photos of my other coconuts later Rescue coconut Cocos nucifera from canal 01 8-28-13.JPG Cocos nucifera from canal 02 8-28-13.JPG Cocos nucifera Dwarf Red Spicata Cocos nucifera dwarf red spicata 01 8-28-13.JPG Cocos nucifera dwarf red spicata 04 8-28-13.JPG Cocos nucifera dwarf red spicata 03 8-28-13.JPG Cocos nucifera dwarf red spicata 02 8-28-13.JPG Is that 4 years from a 3 gallon size or sprout? It looks like it starting to trunk? Planted from a 5g in spring 2009. Leaves stood about 4'. After the record freeze in Jan 2010 it didn't grow at all for at least 6 months. Overall, though, it's grown quite quickly. Red Spicata is one I would like to add to my collection. I think it is hard to find though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmatierMeg Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 FNGLA seed auction site usually sells red spicata coconuts once or twice a year. You may have to take multiples but starting bids are low. 1 Quote Meg Palms of Victory I shall wear Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise) Florida Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal Elevation: 15 feetI'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stygiana Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 And now here comes Cocos zeylandica. NZ's native coconut... Well, I let you search and find out. Fascinating anyway! Uh, isn't that extinct? Like, long dead and fossilized extinct, not "whoops we introduced rats" extinct? Yep, it's long dead extinct (too bad ). But a friend shown me a couple of charcoal-looking fossil seeds when I was in NZ. I couldn't resist to post it here. It's a true coconut species, after all! This is what happens when you start google'ing for "Evolution" and "Coconut": http://aciar.gov.au/files/node/453/mono101.pdf Wow! A thousand, no, a million thanks for this link! This is a most interesting and useful article. Erik, I am greatful for your contribution!!! Quote Sebastian, garden on La Palma island, 370 m (1200 feet) above sea level / USDA Zone 11/12 ; Heat zone IV / V Record High: 42°C (107F) / Record Low: 9°C (48°F). Rain: 600 mm (24 inches) per year with dry/wet seasons. Warm Season: July-November / Cool Season: December-June Warmest month (August/September) average minimum temperature : 21°C (70°F) / Warmest month (August/September) average maximum temperature : 28°C (82°F) Coldest month (February/March) average minimum temperature : 14,5°C (58°F) / Coldest month (February/March) average maximum temperature : 21°C (70°F) Temperature of the sea : minimum of 20°C (68°F) in march, maximum of 25°C (77°F) in September/October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stygiana Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Not sure of the varieties, but here goes..... Keralan Houseboat1.jpg Keralan Backwaters, India Morning a.jpg Keralan Backwaters, India Lagoon border.jpg Goa, India Beach 2a.jpg Nha Trang, Vietnam 329a.jpg Koh Mak, Thailand PalmVN, those photos are just beautiful. En masse plantings and groves are always incredible, but when it's coconuts, I feel something very special. More cocos, everywhere! 1 Quote Sebastian, garden on La Palma island, 370 m (1200 feet) above sea level / USDA Zone 11/12 ; Heat zone IV / V Record High: 42°C (107F) / Record Low: 9°C (48°F). Rain: 600 mm (24 inches) per year with dry/wet seasons. Warm Season: July-November / Cool Season: December-June Warmest month (August/September) average minimum temperature : 21°C (70°F) / Warmest month (August/September) average maximum temperature : 28°C (82°F) Coldest month (February/March) average minimum temperature : 14,5°C (58°F) / Coldest month (February/March) average maximum temperature : 21°C (70°F) Temperature of the sea : minimum of 20°C (68°F) in march, maximum of 25°C (77°F) in September/October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmatierMeg Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Here are photos of the last 3 coconuts I own. I was given this young palm by Peter in Guatemala a couple months ago. I planted it on our garden lot south of my husband's vine trellis to shield it from winter winds. Last week I gave it K-Mag and a dose of micros to green it up. Peter gave me this coconut as a germinated seed a few years ago. I have it planted in my back yard so it is protected by the house and other plantings. Those are so dense I couldn't get an unobstructed photo of the palm - a Panama Tall I believe. Last is a coconut I purchased as a germinated seed several winters ago at a gardenfest. I planted it on the berm overlooking the canal. 1 1 Quote Meg Palms of Victory I shall wear Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise) Florida Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal Elevation: 15 feetI'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Keith Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 Oh come on folks, I know you got more delicious coco photos than this. Quote In my post I sometimes express "my" opinion. Warning, it may differ from "your" opinion. If so, please do not feel insulted, just state your own if you wish. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or any other damages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiearoids Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 I had many small just bearing here , but Larry wiped out half and replacing a fence meant many otherds got cut down . Cyclone Yasi blew another down , as well as my Malay Golden Dwarf . I had just spotted a spike comiong a few days before Yasi . HAve 1 nut forming and a few more on more recent spikes .. I have posted here before about my efforts to prop it back up . The massive one out front has come back well and is still dropping nuts , Dwarf is not even 7 years old .. have pics of it when planted as a tiny 1 leaf nut . Might have had a fruit in 6 years if not for Yasi . 1 Quote Michael in palm paradise, Tully, wet tropics in Australia, over 4 meters of rain every year. Home of the Golden Gumboot, its over 8m high , our record annual rainfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doranakandawatta Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Crazy coconut, posted before but a must have for any coconut thread. Redant, This is a dance they learned long time ago! Here in Ceylon, where was yours? Quote Philippe Jungle Paradise in Sri Lanka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindy Adair Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 I truly tried to take some coconut photos from our farm, but ended up with only a few. Most are volunteers which I'm forced to minimize these days. I'm pretty sure the two in the photo to the left are a dwarf variety planted by the previous owner just so to be hammock width apart. We haven't yet made the time to test that theory . Don't worry, we do have hammock time, just on the covered porch when it rains! Lots of coconuts from the two in the last photo. None yet from the younger tree in the middle photo, but a good support for orchids already! Next visit I'll try for some picture postcard like shots near one of the lovely beaches we visit. 1 Quote Cindy Adair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empireo22 Posted September 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 I truly tried to take some coconut photos from our farm, but ended up with only a few. Most are volunteers which I'm forced to minimize these days. I'm pretty sure the two in the photo to the left are a dwarf variety planted by the previous owner just so to be hammock width apart. We haven't yet made the time to test that theory . Don't worry, we do have hammock time, just on the covered porch when it rains! Lots of coconuts from the two in the last photo. None yet from the younger tree in the middle photo, but a good support for orchids already! Next visit I'll try for some picture postcard like shots near one of the lovely beaches we visit. you're lucky to live in a place where coconuts grow like weeds. Do they have any local cultivars there? BTW. your soil looks excellent for just about any kind of plants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doranakandawatta Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 Beautiful pic! Alex Thanks! Do you know what is the flowering tree? 1 Quote Philippe Jungle Paradise in Sri Lanka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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