Hedyscepe canterburyana germinated -they like it coool !

[Tassie_Troy1971]

I remember a long time ago on this forum that there was a topic on germinating Hedyscepe .and there was quite a bit of disbelief that Hedyscepe germinate in cool conditions and not warm soil in a greenhouse or indoors !

http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/15251-hedyscepe-canterburyana/?hl=hedyscepe

Well i can confirm that down here in cold wet soil in my shade house they have started germinating in late Autumn . The Soil temperature swings between 45 -60 f and seems liek the ideal range to germinate this palm . The seed was soaked for 24 hrs them buried 3 cm in large community trays in a mix that is70 % cactus mix and 30 % perlite . They were put down in July 2012 and no germination occurred over Summer when soil temps were above 68 F 20 C .

by the end of winter i should have around 70 Happy Hedy's that originated from Pogobob's palm !

So when it come to sowing Hedyscepe be cooool !

cheers Troy

[Brucer]

Nice one Troy.

I think they come from higher up the mountains then Howeas.

[Peter G]

Excellent!

I bagsie that big one!

[Kennybenjamin]

Great work Troy!! It's always exciting to see any palm seeds germinate, I get a real buzz out if it no matter the sp.

H. canterburyana is a great palm but I agree they like it cool.... They don't like the heat and humidity that we get here in QLD, I don't recall seeing many / any happy here....Pity...l I have already lost 2!! Not sure I will try again?

[Tassie_Troy1971]

Hi Bruce

Yes they do come from higher up on MT gower .

I remember standing next to yuor big Hedyscepe with Colin in March last year !

No worries Peter - We have a good trade going !

Ben do you have carpoxylon they are the perfect sub tropical solution for Hedyscepe in QLD

[Mauna Kea Cloudforest]

They are cool growers indeed! Congrats on the germination, can't wait to see your garden turn into a Hedyscepe jungle. I love my Hedyscepes. They grow fabulously well in our warmish-cool nights coastal climate.

I germinate most of my palms outdoors in 15 gallon pots exposed to the elements. if it germinates, it's got a a chance to grow here. If not, I am not about to give it heat to germinate. We've managed to get 100% germination on p. cocoides in 6 months that way, throw the seeds in native soil with husk and all.

[Kennybenjamin]

Yes Troy I have 2 x Carpoxylon in my garden, I love to and they grow very well for me!! A Hedyscape wouldn't go astray though, no room left for 1 now anyway?

[Tassie_Troy1971]

Here is one of my Hedyscepe in 2022  

Almost 9 years after the original post.

 

 

[hbernstein]

Slow, but beautiful!

[tinman10101]

4 hours ago, Tassie_Troy1971 said:

Here is one of my Hedyscepe in 2022  

Almost 9 years after the original post.

 

 

wow troy ... that is a beauty and grown exquisitely.  i've never seen the coloration so nicely displayed before.  i would say your climate must be ideal for this palm!

[Billeb]

Wow! Yours looks perfect. One of the most beautiful palms you can grow.  Slow going but worth the wait. I’ve got two 5G specimens and yearn for the day they have a couple feet of wooded trunk. 
 

-dale

[TropicalGardenSpain]

9 hours ago, Tassie_Troy1971 said:

Here is one of my Hedyscepe in 2022  

Almost 9 years after the original post.

 

Wow! Beautiful! Did most survive?

 

[Tyrone]

21 hours ago, Tassie_Troy1971 said:

Here is one of my Hedyscepe in 2022  

Almost 9 years after the original post.

 

 

That is grown to perfection Troy. Well done. 

Back in 2009 I got some seedlings in from LHI with the palm nursery I was working for at the time. Even in deep shade in Perth they struggled. I kept them moist and out of the sun and by about March I would see a couple pass on every year. I think I started with 15. 44C days and 28C at midnight do not suit these at all.

Anyway when I moved down south I ended up bringing 4 that survived and they're all planted. 3 of them took off in the cooler climate and 3 are about the size of your one, but yours is in much better nick I reckon. One was a runt and will be a bonsai forever. But in 2018 I got some seed and its remarkable how the cooler climate really pushes these ones along. I reckon I can grow them at least double the speed down here in Albany than I could in Perth. Ive lost none in summer or winter. They love the cool. 

[Tassie_Troy1971]

On 3/16/2022 at 2:15 AM, tinman10101 said:

wow troy ... that is a beauty and grown exquisitely.  i've never seen the coloration so nicely displayed before.  i would say your climate must be ideal for this palm!

You haven't seen my big trunking one yet 

Will post tomorrow 

[Tassie_Troy1971]

[Tassie_Troy1971]

Here is my biggest Hedyscepe grown from seed from the pogobob Robert De  Jong garden in 2009.

I remember thinking 2 years ago that mine should be trunking in under 5 years and I was surprised that it happened way quicker than my original estimate.

 

 

 

[Darold Petty]

People, Troy is just the best grower !

  My wife and I were privileged to be his houseguests a few years ago, All his palms look like this, no brown tipping.   

[tim_brissy_13]

1 hour ago, Darold Petty said:

People, Troy is just the best grower !

  My wife and I were privileged to be his houseguests a few years ago, All his palms look like this, no brown tipping.   

And in a climate where most people would be shocked that palms grow at all. 
 

This Hedyscepe is up there with the nicest specimens I’ve seen anywhere, we’ll done Troy!

[PalmCode]

Thats a really healthy palm there... Looks like it wont be too far away from flowering aswell right?

[Tyrone]

That’s a beautiful one, and very happy. Looks Ike it may get a fat trunk too. 

[JohnAndSancho]

These are nice! Since they seem to like lower temps and humidity are they viable as an indoor palm?

[Billeb]

5 hours ago, Tassie_Troy1971 said:

 

 

……and this is why I think Hedycepe is one of the most beautiful palms out there. I mean, c’mon!! Well done. 
 

-dale

[Tassie_Troy1971]

Thanks everyone 

Here's another one in full sun position.

 

 

[Fallen Munk]

For contrast, mine started germinating in early summer.  It's been a cool start to summer, but we've still had days approaching 100F.  But to validate your experience, I don't believe I will see the first spear pushing until fall.  To remove the fruit easier I put them in a big black pot with rotting banana peels for about six weeks.  This pot was covered with another inverted black pot in order to keep the squirrels out.  It was in full sun for most of the day.  While I didn't have a thermometer in there, I'm pretty certain it was over 110F for a good part of the day.  But nights were in the low 40's F.  After six weeks, the fruit was removed and I potted them in a light potting mix topped with Hydroton clay balls.  The pot was placed in full shade.  Four weeks later they are popping roots.

 

 

[Fallen Munk]

Adding a link to my germination thread as to not hijack this one:  

 

[The Germinator]

Nice... need to hit up Dave for some more.

[Alexstudent]

On 3/15/2022 at 11:18 AM, Tassie_Troy1971 said:

Here is one of my Hedyscepe in 2022  

Almost 9 years after the original post.

 

 

So nice video, do you have some seeds for sale? i am in big need , still doing project on south pacific palm species ? Do you know if pogod still have them? how i can contact him? I have heard that kentia palm nursery in Lord Howe Island have them , but they told me that they are empty for seeds at the moment. Will be thankfull for all kind help. Best greetings Alex.

[Alexstudent]

On 7/7/2022 at 7:53 PM, Fallen Munk said:

For contrast, mine started germinating in early summer.  It's been a cool start to summer, but we've still had days approaching 100F.  But to validate your experience, I don't believe I will see the first spear pushing until fall.  To remove the fruit easier I put them in a big black pot with rotting banana peels for about six weeks.  This pot was covered with another inverted black pot in order to keep the squirrels out.  It was in full sun for most of the day.  While I didn't have a thermometer in there, I'm pretty certain it was over 110F for a good part of the day.  But nights were in the low 40's F.  After six weeks, the fruit was removed and I potted them in a light potting mix topped with Hydroton clay balls.  The pot was placed in full shade.  Four weeks later they are popping roots.

 

 

do you know if he still have some seeds for sale ? thanks in advance

[Alexstudent]

On 4/4/2022 at 9:02 PM, Tassie_Troy1971 said:

Here is my biggest Hedyscepe grown from seed from the pogobob Robert De  Jong garden in 2009.

I remember thinking 2 years ago that mine should be trunking in under 5 years and I was surprised that it happened way quicker than my original estimate.

 

 

 

Hello. I just read your posts about hedescype.I think I have previously contacted you about whether you had seeds of the nikau palm.

I am  doing university project on palm flora of south pacific, And i finnaly got all nikau seeds but still lack seeds of Hedyscepe canterburyana, howea belmpreana ,Lepidorrhachis mooreana and  Archontophoenix alexandrae and some other species of Archontophoenix .

I wonder if you could help me and sell some seeds of hedyscepe ? I have contacted all in NZ , and nobody have them , i hope that you will be able to help me.  I have also contacted Lord Howe Island nursery , but they told me that it is not allowed to inmoprt seeds from the island. it is very difficult to find them. I wonderif you have some aviable ? i will ofcourse pay you for everything . or maybe you know somebody who have them ? Do you know where i can contact Pogob? If you have seeds of the other species that i need i would gladly buy them from you,

Best greetings Alex.

[Foxpalms]

@Alexstudent Where were you able to find the Rhopalostylis baueri seeds?

[Alexstudent]

10 minutes ago, Foxpalms said:

@Alexstudent Where were you able to find the Rhopalostylis baueri seeds?

from one guy from Australia , not alot but still better than nothing, 😃 i can ask him if he have more and if so , i will pm you

[Foxpalms]

12 minutes ago, Alexstudent said:

from one guy from Australia , not alot but still better than nothing, 😃 i can ask him if he have more and if so , i will pm you

At the moment hopefully I won't need any since I got some from the canary Islands, though I wasn't able to get very fresh seed it was sitting on the floor beneath the palm tree. Hopefully they germinate, but if not I will definitely consider that. There are a few different websites that sell archontophoenix seeds in Europe.

[Alexstudent]

14 minutes ago, Foxpalms said:

At the moment hopefully I won't need any since I got some from the canary Islands, though I wasn't able to get very fresh seed it was sitting on the floor beneath the palm tree. Hopefully they germinate, but if not I will definitely consider that. There are a few different websites that sell archontophoenix seeds in Europe.

can you please tell me about web site ? i couldt find.  about baueri i got 100 and just 10 of them germinated unlike mainland nikau , that have had gemination rate almost 95 percent

[terenc]

On 30/4/2013 at 08:22, Tassie_Troy1971 said:

Ricordo molto tempo fa su questo forum che c'era un argomento sulla germinazione di Hedyscepe e c'era un po' di incredulità sul fatto che Hedyscepe germinasse in condizioni fresche e non in un terreno caldo in una serra o al chiuso!

 

http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/15251-hedyscepe-canterburyana/?hl=hedyscepe

 

Bene, posso confermare che quaggiù nel terreno freddo e umido della mia casa all'ombra hanno iniziato a germogliare nel tardo autunno. La temperatura del suolo oscilla tra 45-60 f e sembra essere l'intervallo ideale per far germogliare questa palma. Il seme è stato messo a bagno per 24 ore e seppellito per 3 cm in grandi vassoi comuni in una miscela composta al 70% da cactus e al 30% da perlite. Sono stati abbattuti nel luglio 2012 e non si è verificata alcuna germinazione durante l'estate quando le temperature del suolo erano superiori a 68 F 20 C .

 

entro la fine dell'inverno dovrei avere circa 70 Happy Hedy originati dal palmo di Pogobob!

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz218/tassie_Troy1971/GerminatedHedyscepe.jpg

 

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz218/tassie_Troy1971/IMG_3587.jpg

 

Quindi, quando si tratta di seminare Hedyscepe, sii figo!

 

evviva Troia

 

 

hello friend do you have any seeds of hedyscape canterbuyrana or some seedlings to sell me i live in germany i am looking for a palm like this but in europe there is nothing neither seeds nor seedlings can you give me a hand if not yours some friend of yours being that i am new in the forum and I don't know how it works!

[Foxpalms]

On 11/20/2022 at 6:41 PM, Alexstudent said:

can you please tell me about web site ? i couldt find.  about baueri i got 100 and just 10 of them germinated unlike mainland nikau , that have had gemination rate almost 95 percent

Ebay, Esty, Plant world seeds have some, rare palm seeds also have some.

[Alexstudent]

1 hour ago, Foxpalms said:

Ebay, Esty, Plant world seeds have some, rare palm seeds also have some.

yeah but i ordered some from etsy were old . you can never know if they are fresh or not. One guy sell on ebay and he is from Germany, but i am also not sure if his seeds are fresh, since it is no bangalow palms in germany.. but i will give it a try, but still unsure

[Foxpalms]

24 minutes ago, Alexstudent said:

yeah but i ordered some from etsy were old . you can never know if they are fresh or not. One guy sell on ebay and he is from Germany, but i am also not sure if his seeds are fresh, since it is no bangalow palms in germany.. but i will give it a try, but still unsure

On ebay some of the sellers list the date the seed was collected which is useful. Which seller from Germany since I've ordered palm seed from Germany before? 

[Alexstudent]

21 hours ago, Foxpalms said:

On ebay some of the sellers list the date the seed was collected which is useful. Which seller from Germany since I've ordered palm seed from Germany before? 

Hello his name is pasaro-palmseeds.

[Foxpalms]

3 hours ago, Alexstudent said:

Hello his name is pasaro-palmseeds.

I haven't ordered from the particular seller, but they seem to have good reviews.

[terenc]

On 9/7/2022 at 19:16, Fallen Munk said:

Aggiunta di un collegamento al mio thread di germinazione per non dirottare questo:  

 

hi friend do you have any hedyscape seeds from venom or some small potted plants