Dypsis Arenarum

[Pedro 65]

Heres a seedling I just got off Luke N of Dypsis arenarum, its nothing like a Lutescens seedling..thank god.. and I must post the pic from RPS, apart from the leaves the trunk doesnt retain its green / yellow /golden colour for a long time like lutescens does, the only colour is on the C/shaft.

[Jeff Searle]

Pete,

That's a nice picture, but I seriously doubt it's D. arenarum. According to the POM book, it's stated that "D. arenarum can easily be confused with D. lutescens". Well, the pic above looks nothing like any lutescens I've seen. And in Riffle/Craft's book, The Encyclopedia of Cultivated Palms, look under D. arenarum. It shows a pic from Jeff's garden in Hawaii, which also looks totally different. His palm is identical to mine in the garden. With a silver/bluish crown and trunk. Would welcome other comments........

[DippyD]

When we going to see what Jeff's palm looks like..

[Pedro 65]

Pete,

That's a nice picture, but I seriously doubt it's D. arenarum. According to the POM book, it's stated that "D. arenarum can easily be confused with D. lutescens". Well, the pic above looks nothing like any lutescens I've seen. And in Riffle/Craft's book, The Encyclopedia of Cultivated Palms, look under D. arenarum. It shows a pic from Jeff's garden in Hawaii, which also looks totally different. His palm is identical to mine in the garden. With a silver/bluish crown and trunk. Would welcome other comments........

Hi Jeff, i dont have that book, I , like ALL are "Keen" to see "you Arenarum" Pete

[DippyD]

Photooooooosssssss????!!!

[Hilo Jason]

Here are a few pictures of one of Jeff's palms. This is not his large one that shows a lot of blue / grey on the trunks and has seedlings everywhere underneath it. Unfortunately I did not take a picture of that one. This is one that I believe he said he got as Arenarum, but thinks is something else. I honestly have no idea, all I know is it's a great looking plant and I'd love to have one in my garden!

[DippyD]

Very very cool, looking like mine is headed in the right direction!! I do not have a copy

Of POMs but what does psammophillas discription say? Only

Curious because this palm seems to have a blackish trunk and I remember when first getting into palms I saw black stem and wanted one badly. Some people said psammophilla was the palm that had that but we obviously know now that there is a black stem baronii.

[rprimbs]

Here are a few pictures of one of Jeff's palms. This is not his large one that shows a lot of blue / grey on the trunks and has seedlings everywhere underneath it. Unfortunately I did not take a picture of that one. This is one that I believe he said he got as Arenarum, but thinks is something else. I honestly have no idea, all I know is it's a great looking plant and I'd love to have one in my garden!

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I have a Dypsis "arenarum" that looks about like that. It is showing much more color and flushing red as it gets older. Whatever it is it is cool, and it handles inland sun like a champ. I never even bothered to "acclimate" mine.

[DippyD]

Bumped myself, some updates!

[DippyD]

[DippyD]

[DippyD]

[LilikoiLee]

I received seeds of D arenarum early July ( 2nd) and they are already popping, so are some of the Hovomantsinas received on the same day.

Many Thanks TOBY and RPS crew..Pete

I'm very jealous! Where did you get the seed? Lee

[LilikoiLee]

Here are a few pictures of one of Jeff's palms. This is not his large one that shows a lot of blue / grey on the trunks and has seedlings everywhere underneath it. Unfortunately I did not take a picture of that one. This is one that I believe he said he got as Arenarum, but thinks is something else. I honestly have no idea, all I know is it's a great looking plant and I'd love to have one in my garden!

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"What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet." - Shakespeare. I would love one in our garden no matter what it is called. Lee

[Mandrew968]

Randy--your palm is the SAME as my palm and it's NOT a lutescens. Now, I thought it was an arenarum, but Jeff is saying it may be something different... but lutescens it is not.

Why can't this palm be a Lutescens? It seems to be another variable Madagascarian palm as can be seen in all the crazy examples grown in Thailand or the photos from some different forms in the wild like the blue lutescens that was posted a while back. Not saying it is, just saying I wouldn't rule it out.

Why isn't my uncle, my aunt??? It's all in the nuts!

All joking aside, you make a valid point, Len--lutescens is a complex judging from all the different forms I have seen(much like Rhapis excelsa). The point I was making in my joke was maybe the seed is different and or the branching of the inflorescence...

[Mandrew968]

This is mine. Little Jeff is now down to two heads, from four; one I accidentally broke off while weeding a year back, and the other just seems to have rotted off today.

[Jesse]

Bump for some updates?

I have acquired a mystery Dypsis that may, or may not be, Arenarum. Unverified history traces back to Kevin W. so its possible.

[quaman58]

I have one that was sold as arenarium, stayed solitary, & is now about 15' tall. It's a nice palm, but has lost that cool maroon "push" over time & is basically indistinguishable from a nicely growing lutescens. It's hard to believe that the palm many of us are growing is the "real" deal. Lovely palm regardless though.

[Mandrew968]

Update this morning on mine. Very slow and diminutive for me, which is not anything like how lutescens does. It is certainly similar looking-but so is albofarinosa, baronii, and quite a few more...

[Jesse]

Thanks for sharing the pictures.  I love the color contrasts.

[Mohsen]

I thought to add mine here too :

 

[Mark M @ S. Oceanside palms]

I bought a "flat" of liners labeled D. arenarum from Kevin W. about 10 years ago and planted this one right off in my Dypsis planter.  since then it grew and clumped profusely.  This will be hard to believe but I have since sliced each side of this plant and gifted 3 chunks of this plant (with some root) to friends and neighbors because it was taking over like bamboo (generally a good problem with any Dypsis).  All have survived and grown over the years!!!!!!  All I know is that it is an attractive Dypsis that I am praying will seed someday.

[Matt in OC]

1 minute ago, Mark M @ S. Oceanside palms said:

I bought a "flat" of liners labeled D. arenarum from Kevin W. about 10 years ago and planted this one right off in my Dypsis planter.  since then it grew and clumped profusely.  This will be hard to believe but I have since sliced each side of this plant and gifted 3 chunks of this plant (with some root) to friends and neighbors because it was taking over like bamboo (generally a good problem with any Dypsis).  All have survived and grown over the years!!!!!!  All I know is that it is an attractive Dypsis that I am praying will seed someday.

Mark, I wonder if that is Dypsis sp. lafazamanga? Gorgeous! http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/29767-dypsis-lafazamanga/

[joe_OC]

I have D arenerum growing in my yard.  I would say they are different palms.  The fronds on D. arenerum are more recurved and green.  The crown is also more open.  The pictures I have seen of D. sp. 'lafazamanga' show a more erect, glaucous frond.  The crown a tighter "v" shape.

There are a lot of similarities in the colors of the two palms.

I will be planting the 'lafazamanga' I get from you, Matt, right next to it so we will find out soon enough.

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[joe_OC]

Love how the red continues on the leaflet center ribs.

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[Mohsen]

Hi All

anyone has experience with transplanting Dypsis arenarum?  mine is very firm in ground so should have rooted deep... can I assume it can be moved as easily as Dypsis lutescens??... I have move once after cutting half of their roots and they still dint bother at all ...

[JD in the OC]

One of the prettiest Chrysalidocarpus in my garden is this C. arenarum that i got from Jeff Searle years ago.  Thought i would add it to this older post.  Trunks are black-green and half the width of a C. lutescens. Leaflets are silvery and very widely spaced apart which is indicative of the true C. arenarum i believe. Only pushes 2-3 leaves  a year.