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Dwarf Areca catechu from Seed ?

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Over a year ago I purchased some germinated Areca catechu Dwarf seeds.They were sold as specially selected for their dwarf characterstics.I had my doubts because they just looked like normal catechu sprouts to me.I think I may finally have some real Dwarf Betelnut palms.

Years ago I purchased dwarf catechu seeds and when they matured none turned out to be dwarf.This group seems different and I think about 80% will be true dwarves.

A sample of the young palms

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These seem especially chunky to me

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El Oasis - beach garden, distinct wet/dry season ,year round 20-38c

Las Heliconias - jungle garden ,800m elevation,150+ inches rainfall, year round 15-28c

Mandrew968 Grand Master

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Nice--I would be down to buy that seed too!

bgl Grand Master

bgl

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Scott,

Good luck with them and I hope they turn out to be the "real deal". :) Apparently, most seeds from a dwarf Areca catechu will NOT produce dwarfs. I have talked a few times with Roy at H. Eunice Nursery in Hilo about this. My guess is that Roy has germinated more of these than most of us. And his experience is that the seeds from a dwarf will produce everything ranging from true dwarfs to the standard tall betel nut and everything in between. And you can't really tell what it will end up being until the plant is about 1 ft to 1.5 ft tall.

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

Kim Grand Master

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I remember reading a couple of threads about Areca catechu dwarf, describing the "tell tale" signs. I can only find one of them:

Dwarf A. catechu discussion

I seem to remember another wherein attention was given to blunt leaf tips, but I can't find it. Anyone remember that one?

These are the most adorable palms. Sorry for gushing, but it's true! :lol:

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
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Really full garden Grand Master

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The best examples of Dwarf catechus that I have seen have all been from Thailand.Mine all came from Thailand.There is some variation but they all seem robust,stocky with short petioles, I know time will tell.

El Oasis - beach garden, distinct wet/dry season ,year round 20-38c

Las Heliconias - jungle garden ,800m elevation,150+ inches rainfall, year round 15-28c

colin Peters Grand Master

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Not to get off the dwarf topic, but do Areca alba seeds come true?? It seems both

dwarf and albas may revert back to the true form, from seed. Wonder what the percentages

are of each, and one must have pot up quite a few, and wait to get the real deal.

JD in the OC Grand Master

JD in the OC

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Nice dwarfs. Not many people have more than one!

Really full garden Grand Master

Really full garden

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Nice dwarfs. Not many people have more than one!

I cant wait till they are larger.I want to plant a group of seven with a few boulders for drama and black lirope as the ground cover.I think that would be spectacular.

El Oasis - beach garden, distinct wet/dry season ,year round 20-38c

Las Heliconias - jungle garden ,800m elevation,150+ inches rainfall, year round 15-28c

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Hi Scott, this is the first time I've been on Palmtalk in a long time and what a joy it is to see your dwarfs. Is that polically correct? I am thrilled to see you have so many. I know they'll be happy at your highland garden and if you need to experiment with them on the beach let me know I would love to adopt one (or seven). One other thing, if you find black lariope anywhere in Guatemala will you please tell me where? I saw a black grass at Darold Petty's home in San Francisco last year and have been searching ever since! And in case you forgot, my birthday is coming up!!

Hope to see you soon, Peter

Peter

hot and humid, short rainy season May through October, 14* latitude, 90* longitude

Really full garden Grand Master

Really full garden

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Hi Scott, this is the first time I've been on Palmtalk in a long time and what a joy it is to see your dwarfs. Is that polically correct? I am thrilled to see you have so many. I know they'll be happy at your highland garden and if you need to experiment with them on the beach let me know I would love to adopt one (or seven). One other thing, if you find black lariope anywhere in Guatemala will you please tell me where? I saw a black grass at Darold Petty's home in San Francisco last year and have been searching ever since! And in case you forgot, my birthday is coming up!!

Hope to see you soon, Peter

Peter I have seen black lirope at Botanik in Guatemala City. Its pricey if you need to cover a large area.

El Oasis - beach garden, distinct wet/dry season ,year round 20-38c

Las Heliconias - jungle garden ,800m elevation,150+ inches rainfall, year round 15-28c

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You'll know where I'm going the next time I'm in the city! Thanks, Scott. Peter

Peter

hot and humid, short rainy season May through October, 14* latitude, 90* longitude

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