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Weekend Update:

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Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

Posted

intriguing

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Posted

Weekend Update:

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Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

Posted

sun's out now.

mo better pictures...

these are the ones with myco:

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Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

Posted

I dunno what happened to the squashed lookin' one...

I think the doggone kittykat did it messin' with lizards...

these are the one's without myco:

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Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

Posted

This is where they rest when not posin' for the camera:

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Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Not that much goin' on. Still chuggin' along...

The ones on the left with the MyCo are about .25" caliper, the ones without MyCo average a eighth inch...

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Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

A couple more weekends...

The tray on the left gets the MyCo, while the tray on the right doesn't...

The ones on the left all have two leaves already...

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Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

Posted

I'm still not feelin' the love.

Next month I'll be attending a seminar that discusses the merits and attributes of adding MB to soils. I'll report afterwards.

 

 

Posted

synthetic fertilizers that are needed is a myth. plants continuously fed synthetic suffer more stress and disease

Posted

I've been mixing in some "alive" humus rich soil from an area of my garden that I have been composting for the last decade into my seedling mixes to see what effect it has on germination and seedling growth. Some seedlings germinate fine and then after a while just go backwards. On post mortem they have weak roots. I put this down to a lack of a suitable miccorhyza. Clinostigma harlandii is one that fits that bill and all Geonomas I've tried have had the same issue. I went from 27 C harlandii down to one after about 4 years, and now that one has taken off like there's no tomorrow. It somehow got through the difficult phase and grew roots. My hope is with mixing in some compost is I may pick up a miccorhyza or two and get good results. All palms I've grown in this humus rich alive soil seem to love it. Got some more C harlandii seed coming so I will let you know how my little experiment goes.

Best regards

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

Posted

YesSirTyrone. You should get it done.

It wasn't as expensive as I'd thought, or heard of...

I picked up a 8oz jar of it for like $50USD.

I ought to be able to do the whole yard with it, over the course of a year... one gal at a time! :lol:

Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

Posted

YesSirTyrone. You should get it done.

It wasn't as expensive as I'd thought, or heard of...

I picked up a 8oz jar of it for like $50USD.

I ought to be able to do the whole yard with it, over the course of a year... one gal at a time! :lol:

Do you know what species you have, or is that not an important factor?

Here in the native bush their are meant to be tons of miccorhyza's working away helping the native vegetation extract nutrients from what is basically zero phosphorus (and zero organic matter) sand. They've only just realised this is happening in the last few years, and they help everything from the smallest plant, to Macrozamia cycads, to the largest Eucalypt or so I've been told. Don't know how those species go when given almost 100% organic matter to mess with. I'm assuming they like it. I do have weird toadstools and things popping up from time to time in the warmer weather here, and I was told these toadstools and mushrooms can be the fruiting bodies of miccorhyza fungi.

Best regards

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

Posted

YesSirTyrone. You should get it done.

It wasn't as expensive as I'd thought, or heard of...

I picked up a 8oz jar of it for like $50USD.

I ought to be able to do the whole yard with it, over the course of a year... one gal at a time! :lol:

I do have weird toadstools and things popping up from time to time in the warmer weather here, and I was told these toadstools and mushrooms can be the fruiting bodies of miccorhyza fungi.

This is interesting and I hope true. I get tons of these throughout my garden and thought it was just the bad fungus mushrooms.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Posted

RE: Post #6, Page #1:

Bacillus licheniformis………………….……….…372 million cfu/lb

Bacillus azotoformans……………..…….………372 million cfu/lb

Bacillus megaterium.…………..…..……..….….372 million cfu/lb

Bacillus coagulans,…….…………………………372 million cfu/lb

Bacillus pumilis…………..…….………………….372 million cfu/lb

Bacillus thuringiensis…………..………………….372 million cfu/lb

Bacillus stearothermiphillis…….………………….372 million cfu/lb

Paenibacillus polymyxa….…………..…………….372 million cfu/lb

Paenibacillus durum…………………..…………….372 million cfu/lb

Paenibacillus florescence..………….………..….372 million cfu/lb

Paenibacillus gordonae…..………….…………….372 million cfu/lb

Azotobacter polymxa………………….………..….372 million cfu/lb

Azotobacter chroococcum……………………..….372 million cfu/lb

Sacchromyces cervisiae………………………..….372 million cfu/lb

Pseudomonas aureofaceans…………………..….372 million cfu/lb

Mycorrhiza:

Endomycorrhizal/cc

Glomus intraradices……………….……..…1,135 propagules per lb

Glomas mosseae……………………………1,135 propagules per lb

Glomas aggregatum………………………..1,135 propagules per lb

Glomus entunicatum……………..…………1,135 propagules per lb

Glomus clarum………………….………..….1,135 propagules per lb

Glomus deserticola….………………………1,135 propagules per lb

Gigaspora margarita………..………………1,135 propagules per lb

Gigaspora brasilianum………..….…………1,135 propagules per lb

Gigaspora monosporum………….…………1,135 propagules per lb

Trichoderma:

Trichoderma harzianum……….….150 million propagules per lb

Trichoderma konigii………..……….150 million propagules per lb

Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

Posted

Don't remember if I heard about it here or somewhere else, but have you guys ever tried BIMS (beneficial indigenous microorganisms)? Interesting article and cheap and easy to make. I use this, horse manure and live fresh mulch to keep healthy amounts of microorganisms in my jungle.

BIMS

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Aloha, JungleGina

Zone 9b, Sunny Sarasota, Florida

Posted

...so I take it your not using synthetic ferts at all now Gina

...and these toadstools you all speak of, I think I know what're talkin' about...

Their really, really small ones... and in large groups or clusters...

Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

Posted

...so I take it your not using synthetic ferts at all now Gina

...and these toadstools you all speak of, I think I know what're talkin' about...

Their really, really small ones... and in large groups or clusters...

No Ray never was much into synthetics but now my goal is nothing synthetic due to my past experiences with cancer. We are also keeping bees and don't want to contribute to their struggles feeling that chemicals are largely to blame. We're using horse manure from a local urban farm (and gifts from our own chickens). Wasn't my idea and frankly quite disgusting but I have to admit the plants LOVE IT. The BIMS are another aspect of adding in a variety beneficial microrganisms that will benefit the plants. With all the rain we've had there are white threads of mycorrhiza running all through our soil in preparation for a big flush of mushrooms. Totally fascinating...and not for the reasons you think!

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Aloha, JungleGina

Zone 9b, Sunny Sarasota, Florida

  • 2 months later...
Posted

UPDATE:

Re-pot'd a few A. maximas

Noticed much filaments on the root system.

I think it's workin'.

I'll have to check a few of the non-myco'd ones today...

These are a few that get the myco...

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Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

Posted

Here are the A. maximas... The ones on the left DO NOT get the myco... The ones on the right DO get the myco... It's pretty obvious the ones without the myco are a little behind... Also pictured is one of the containers that DO NOT get the myco... It's got thicker roots than the myco'd ones, but I think I'll take more filaments covering soil area vs. thick roots. :)

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Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

  • 1 year later...
Posted

Ray - just stumbled across this any update after a year?

Aloha,

Bill

Aloha!

 

Always looking for "Palms of Paradise"

 

Cardiff by the Sea 10b 1/2

1/2 mile from the Blue Pacific

Posted

These maximas are spread out from Tampa to Valrico... Ive since given them all out, and put one in the ground here, in Brandon... One left in a 3gal heading for Sarasota one day...

- Ray.

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Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

  • 1 year later...
Posted

Check out one of these bruisers now:

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Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

Posted

Check out one of these bruisers now:

Used any synthetics on this one? Astonishing growth for only 3 years from seed!

Posted

Yes I do use synthetic ferts

Brandon, FL

27.95°N 82.28°W (Elev. 62 ft)

Zone9 w/ canopy

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