Dypsis madagascarensis

[MattyB]

This palm is one of my favorites. It's got great color, an interesting leaf form, it takes full sun, and it grows fast! What more could you want?

Why don't we see this palm grown more in SoCal? It's a common avenue palm in the tropics. I wish we saw it more here. Feel free to post some pics of your D. mad.

[Mandrew968]

I know exactly which palm you mean(that one looks like lucubensis), but is D. Madagascarensis even a real name? Last I heard, it's not under Kew's list...

Edited May 3, 2011 by Mandrew968

[DoomsDave]

Hmm.

I've got a couple, and they're okay.

In DG soil, they do much better, as they do in pure sand of wasted potting soil.

In clay, not so much.

Too much water and they rot, don't pass go.

Matty, your specimen is spectacular! Mine, not so much.

[MattyB]

D. mad. Kew link

I know there's tons of different forms. I wasn't getting into that, I was just wondering why we don't see it more often.

[Mandrew968]

Matty, I have no idea how to use that link you sent me(I'm not too computer savvy)!

Secondly, I didn't know there were a bunch of variations to this name, but it figures! Freakin' Dypsis

And lastly, I agree; this palm is a good grower(even for a Dypsis, in South Florida), and it's not a very expensive palm either. I'm a fan of the variety with clumping green trunks

[LauraAnu]

Well,

As you know this one isn't mine but hopefully I will have a few babies from this tree soon .

Laura

[quaman58]

Matt,

I was always told they're a bit cold sensitive, but I got one last year from Ron (neoflora) & it's done great. Not as nice as yours though. I get the feeling it likes my hillside, which would put it in the same category as D. decaryi in that (like Dave said) it likes to be on the dry side & loves summer heat.

Laura,

Yep, that's a nice one..

[Tyrone]

They don't like frost or anything close to frost. Cold dew is all it takes to leave black spots on them. Once they get older they get stronger. When they're happy they're fast. Maybe that's why they are not that common in So Cal, as they may not make it through the early years.

For those who asked D madagascariensis is the official name. D lucubensis is not a valid name but is used by the nursery trade to denote the solitary form. Then there is D madagascariensis var Mahajanga which is a different form and from there it all gets blurry and weird.

Best regards

Tyrone

[tropicbreeze]

I've got about a dozen large D. madagascariensis v. lucubensis, the previous owner of this place must have liked them a lot, or he got a really good deal on bulk buys.

But I bought a small Rhapis a while back which had a multitude of stems, so I split them up. When they grew out a bit I saw they were mostly D madagascariensis.

I told the nursery where I bought them. They showed me where the pot had been sitting, under a whole lot of D. madagascariensis which must have been raining down tons of seeds onto the pot. So now I've got a whole lot of small ones as well.

[Mandrew968]

This is when I first planted it...

madagascarensis.bmp

[redant]

Mine yellow and spot up the last couple of winters, look good in the summer though.

[olivier971]

Some pics from La Reunion island :

[olivier971]

[olivier971]

And some pics from "Le jardin de Pamplemousse" - Ile Maurice

Notice some diffrents forms massive solitary, and clumping

[LauraAnu]

Those are huge Oliver. Thanks for posting.

One question, does solitary parents mean solitary offspring and clumping parents mean clumping offspring? Inquiring minds would like to know .

Laura

[ariscott]

I have D. lucubensis, D. madagascariensis & D. mahajanga... I know, I NEED to take photos... actually I need to get in the garden. Dry season!! Busy season!!!

Regards, Ari

[palmislandRandy]

Heres one of mine. A bullet proof palm, always green & loves full inland sun.

Randy

[BS Man about Palms]

Randy, yours kind looks like the "Searle Dypsis malcomberi"...

[Pedro 65]

This is our sexy Mad x Cabadae

[Pedro 65]

Sorry for wandering on this thread but wanted to post 2 crosses of Madagascariemsis. Sexy 1 is Mad x Cabadae Ugly 1 is Mad x Lepto (not Lepto x Decarii)

Edited May 7, 2011 by Pedro 65

[ariscott]

I must be on fire today.. taking photos of lots of stuff in the garden...

Here are mine...

Dypsis lucubensis - locally sourced

Dypsis lucubensis from Mike Green - true lucubensis, as he called it

Dypsis mahajanga - I think this one is from Mikey

[ariscott]

last one...

bought as Dypsis madagascariensis...

That's all I have...

Regards, Ari

[aussiearoids]

That one is growing well Ari , and don't forget your 'Avisonii' . My 2 are growing very well , but only 30 cms of trunk on one of them .

[ariscott]

I forget that 'avisonii' is one of the madagascariensis complex.

Here it is.... very stunning palm.

Regards, Ari

Edited May 7, 2011 by ariscott

[Mandrew968]

Which species clusters, has thin to medium sized green trunks, has plumose leaves and grows in a tristichous manner?

[SanDimas]

Some pics from La Reunion island :

BUMP......................

SO what is this palm?

Dypsis madagascariensis?

D. madagascariensis var. lucobensis?

D. mahajanga?

Hybrid cross D decaryi x D. leucobensis?

MattyB? DoomsDave? Olivier? Pedro65? JMarcus?

Thanx. Ritchy

[stygiana]

Dypsis madagascariensis is quite a common palm in Andalucia, where the climate is quite similar to yours in SoCal.

It's one of the toughest, fastest growing and yet tropical looking palms for that region. For a strange reason I did not plant it a lot when I worked there...

I agree with you MattyB that it's got all the qualities to become be a common and dependable palm in LA & San Diego.

Here are some links from "Street Views":

http://maps.google.es/maps?q=almunecar&hl=fr&ie=UTF8&ll=36.735763,-3.690805&spn=0.00558,0.013078&client=firefox-a&channel=s&hnear=Almu%C3%B1%C3%A9car,+Province+de+Grenade,+Andalousie&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=36.735623,-3.690931&panoid=hXJMj4ZBCzAtUeLMdA5VfA&cbp=12,110.76,,0,-5.83

http://maps.google.es/maps?q=almunecar&hl=fr&ie=UTF8&ll=36.739492,-3.698319&spn=0.00558,0.013078&client=firefox-a&channel=s&hnear=Almu%C3%B1%C3%A9car,+Province+de+Grenade,+Andalousie&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=36.739492,-3.698319&panoid=miwlCwlKkpPGRZK4O2PtbQ&cbp=12,35.17,,0,-4.65

[MattyB]

Thanks, I love those street views! I felt like I took a little trip to Epaña

[Jastin]

This palm is one of my favorites. It's got great color, an interesting leaf form, it takes full sun, and it grows fast! What more could you want?

Why don't we see this palm grown more in SoCal? It's a common avenue palm in the tropics. I wish we saw it more here. Feel free to post some pics of your D. mad.

You know a palm is happy and growing fast when it gets rid of a perfectly good green leaf!

[stygiana]

Thanks, I love those street views! I felt like I took a little trip to Epaña

It was a pleasure.

Feel ready for another trip to Southern Europe with (better looking) Dypsis madagascariensis?

Here is an old post from the Spanish-speaking PT, with some of these good ol'PTalkers from this side of the world (Rafael, Charlie, Carlo, ...):

http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/24497-parque-del-majuelo/

[SanDimas]

Hey guys.

Jeff Marcus says Dypsis mahajanga is pretty much same but more refined/better looking form of the madagascariensis.

Whats the growth rate on these madagascariensis I wonder?

Anyone with experience on the mahajanga as well?

Thanx. Ritchy

[Mandrew968]

Here is an update on mine. Actually for being in the full sun, it looks really good. My dad's looks greener as it in in shade...

[Rafael]

Amazing palm!

Wish my two ground planted pinnate leaf seedlings reach that syze.

[DoomsDave]

So, Matt, how about an after picture to your before?

Inquiring minds want to know!