Syagrus romanzoffiana

[Moris]

nice syagrus, my favourite palms (after cocus nucifera). I have seedling of syagrus litoralis, i will to try next year in nord italy, where temperature will go down until -10 celsius. Someone grow the new syagrus nr. 2 and nr. 5?

[DavidMac]

I have found that Syagrus romanzoffiana (var. Santa Catarina) seedlings will be offered for sale this May by Penny's Palms- one of Nigel's photos is shown....very tempting-I just might buy a few. What do you'all think? http://www.pennyspalms.com/syagrus-romanzoffiana-var-santa-catarina-queen-palm.html

[Mark Heath]

Thanks for the link David.

Where are these people located?

[SanDimas]

Hello everyone.

Interesting thread. Matty has one going also Abreojos Queens.

The robust form seems to lo all tne same in my novice opinion...

Sta Catarina, Abreojos, Silver Queen...

I just ordered mine from pennyspalms.com and awaiting arrival in tne next 3days.

The Palms are actually available now. A great addition and canopy coverage for the cold and heat sensitive pals and ferns. 803.604.0541 Pennys Palms

Ritchy

[SanDimas]

Nigel. The Sta Catarina seedlings from PennysPalms.com arrived today.

I sure hope they become the robust Queens as you say and not end up looking like King Alex.....

or Im coming after you.

Cheers! Ritchy

[DavidMac]

Howdy Mark-Penny's Palms is in South Carolina.

[Brad Mondel]

I've had two queen palms about 10 feet tall outside mt zone 8b garden for two winters and zero damage, The leaflets are very thin and they grow rather steady.

[Alberto]

Hello everyone.

Interesting thread. Matty has one going also Abreojos Queens.

The robust form seems to lo all tne same in my novice opinion...

Sta Catarina, Abreojos, Silver Queen...

I just ordered mine from pennyspalms.com and awaiting arrival in tne next 3days.

The Palms are actually available now. A great addition and canopy coverage for the cold and heat sensitive pals and ferns. 803.604.0541 Pennys Palms

Ritchy

I´m very familiar to queen palms, because they are native here, and one thing I can say is that certainly the "abreojos" has a very distintive look. Different from our palms here!

[Cikas]

The Florida "Silver Queen" is Litoralis Nigel. At least according to RPS. Whether or not it is found at both high and low (coastal) elevations as it's name would imply, is not clear.

John, silver queen was a name given to some palms that survived a big freeze in florida when all around croaked by Carters seeds. Nobody knew for sure the origin of those trees but they are very similar to the santa catarina queens with smaller rounded seeds, and it was thought these seeds did originate here in south brasil.

Syagrus litoralis was a name given by gaston who used to post here to some queens growing in argentina on the shoreline of the river plate.

So they are not the same thing. I dont know the origin of the RPS seeds so cant comment, but the queens growing up in the mountains are much more robust and would have the better provenance.

Queens grow everywhere in this region like weeeds so the seeds you are buying could be from the coast which never sees frost or the mountains with a totally different climate.

Toby would need to elaborate on the source.......

Syagrus romanzoffiana Litoralis is not from the shore, it is from the mountains ( despite its name ). According to Rarepalmseeds:

Syagrus romanzoffiana Litoralis

Robust Queen Palm, Silver Queen Palm

A robust cultivar of the Queen Palm from Argentina, Uruguay and Southern Brazil, where it is found to over 1000 m (3300 ft.) altitude, with a thicker, sturdier trunk that supports a compact crown of arching leaves with particularly thick and wide leaflets. It is very hardy to cold and is said to survive temperatures down to -9°C (15°F) undamaged. Apparently this palm has already been in cultivation in the U.S. for a while, most popularly under the name Silver Queen. Reportedly, the palm received that name in Florida not because its leaves or any other of its parts are silver, but rather because after a hard freeze that killed all the more tender Queen Palms, the ones that survived, the Silver Queens, had leaflets that appeared in a strange, translucent silver tone in sunlight, the result of a light frost damage.

http://www.rarepalmseeds.com/pix/SyaLit.shtml

Edited January 21, 2014 by Cikas

[ErikSJI]

So how are these queens doing these days. Has anyone noticed more cold hardy traits compared to a regular queen?