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what can you tell me about true Dypsis ambositrae ?

trioderob

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MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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Randy, yours looks like something more along the lines of a Dypsis onilahensis (on of the upright forms)

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

tikitiki Mentor

tikitiki

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I'm shocked Randy. What are the odds of a Dypsis being mislabeled :mrlooney: Come on matty. look harder.

Randy yours look like Dypsis albofarinosa. I have a few from Jeff and when i saw yours last week thats what I assumed them to be.

After all these photos, I can see mine are different! :blink: What are mine then? I hope no more decipiens. :huh:

Randy :)

But, but, but it had ambositrae printed right on the pots! :blink: I'm so confused.

Randy :hmm:

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With a tin cup for a chalice

Fill it up with good red wine,

And I'm-a chewin' on a honeysuckle vine.

Jonathan Veteran

Jonathan

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Why dont we all just be honest, like good little boys and girls, and admit that no-one here has a clue :)

Cheers,

Jonathan

(The proud owner of two tiny seedlings which may or may not be D. ambositrae!)

South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

palmislandRandy Grand Master

palmislandRandy

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Why dont we all just be honest, like good little boys and girls, and admit that no-one here has a clue :)

Cheers,

Jonathan

(The proud owner of two tiny seedlings which may or may not be D. ambositrae!)

Well said Jonathan!

Mine can't be onilahensis OR albofarinosa because they have heels. Maybe just call it Dypsis sp.? :blink:

Randy :)

"If you need me, I'll be outside" -Randy Wiesner Palm Beach County, Florida Zone 10Bish

richnorm Grand Master

richnorm

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These are 2 seperate plants (planted on a mound, Bill :D ). Are they the real ambositrae?

Randy :)

Randy, Those are very interesting! Do you have any information on the origin of these plants? Do the leaflets feel thick and tough like a decipiens?

cheers

Richard

Alberto Grand Master

Alberto

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The petioles are dark red but the little speers are green.

Any clues about mine and Rafael´s seedlings?:rolleyes:

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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At that size without seeing in person, I dare to venture a guess.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

richnorm Grand Master

richnorm

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The petioles are dark red but the little speers are green.

Any clues about mine and Rafael´s seedlings?:rolleyes:

If the seed came from RPS then there is every likelihood that you have plants that will grow up to look like those pictured in post 29 etc.

Alberto Grand Master

Alberto

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The petioles are dark red but the little speers are green.

Any clues about mine and Rafael´s seedlings?:rolleyes:

If the seed came from RPS then there is every likelihood that you have plants that will grow up to look like those pictured in post 29 etc.

Thanks!!

Doesn´t that grown up palm of post#29 look pretty similar to the Dypsis ambositrae "wild collected" from post#31, or not?:hmm:

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

Tyrone Grand Master

Tyrone

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Why dont we all just be honest, like good little boys and girls, and admit that no-one here has a clue :)

Cheers,

Jonathan

(The proud owner of two tiny seedlings which may or may not be D. ambositrae!)

Jonathan, I know what you mean. This palm is like trying to find Osama Bin Laden. Is it him, or is it him, or does he even really exist????????? :unsure:

Really though I have many seedlings from RPS and Toby assures me these are wild collected seed from the locality of Ambositra. There aint many palms around that town, so what I'm growing is some rare palm from that town's vicinity. I think it's real.

Best regards

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

richnorm Grand Master

richnorm

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The petioles are dark red but the little speers are green.

Any clues about mine and Rafael´s seedlings?:rolleyes:

If the seed came from RPS then there is every likelihood that you have plants that will grow up to look like those pictured in post 29 etc.

Thanks!!

Doesn´t that grown up palm of post#29 look pretty similar to the Dypsis ambositrae "wild collected" from post#31, or not?:hmm:

For what its worth 25, 29, 31 and 32 appear very similar to me and consistent with what I am growing from RPS and directly imported seed. The others are too small. Randy seems to have something quite different and if it comes from high altitude around Ambositra that would be very interesting. I have one ambo like plant which is different from the others but still very similar in overall appearance. The differences are all small individually but when taken together get me wondering.

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