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on the road to Ste marie madagascar


bruno

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Euterpe oleracea?

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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One of you asked to post pics of lutescens in the wild. Here is one by the road. They are everywhere, in all 3 shapes and colour.

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Our neighbour on the island is a nice hotel which has a small cessna. I took some pics of the island from the air. 9O% of the forest has disappeared relaced by grass, acacia or plantations of cloves and other spices. You can see the grey colour of the acacia on the right and in some spots.

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This is the northern tip of the sland. No corral barrier in front of the hotel there, but a beautiful white sand, coconuts and filaos (a conifer). I forgot its latin name.

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On the beach, two forms of coco nucifera: short and long palms. Do they have different names? I remember the course gileno gave us on the coco.

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Nice photos Bruno.  I agree with Matty on the first palm, I would say it is almost certainly a Euterpe.

Matt

San Diego

0.6 Acres of a south facing, gently sloped dirt pile, soon to be impenetrable jungle

East of Mount Soledad, in the biggest cold sink in San Diego County.

Zone 10a (I hope), Sunset 24

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Thanks Matt and Matty! Where is this palm from and why have so many been planted in one place? Are they eatable? Their hearts?

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Bruno-

I am not sure of the palm hearts being edible, but the fruit of the seed is used to make drinks of all kinds, notably Acai. I am sure Gileno and Don Kittelson can elablorate on their uses.

Christian Faulkner

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Bruno:

Very nice pictures. I loved the river and the lutescens island in it, and also the Cessna's air views.

It's amazing to see Euterpe oleraceas in Madagascar...they are native to northern South America, with the center of distribution in Pará State, in the amazonic forest. Yes, the heart is edible (palmito) and the fruits make a delicious energetic drink...ask Don amazonDK for some recipes...

Keep the pictures coming  :cool:

Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

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Are you all sure this palm is euterpe?

I've looked in google for other pics but it does not match really?

Here is one of them. Let me know because this euterpe is a real bonanza. One can at the heart, the stem grows back, the juice of the fruits are the best anti oxydant for the arteries! I'll get more of them next time I go by them in november. Plenty of seedlings all around.

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Oh, man I so wish I could grow that palm!!!!!  I've got a small E. oleracea that probably won't make it outside my greenhouse!  Drats@!  I guess I'll just have to wait 100 years for my D. onilahensis to look like that....

Matt Bradford

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Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

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matt you've been salivating over this species for weeks

& now i know why!

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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See man see!

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

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9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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OK, if you all agree this euterpe, I will go for it and plant more. I took 10 seedlings back with me to Tana.

I have five hectares of land in SM, with plenty o f huge avocadoes, clove trees, about 150 coconuts? a bare hill with some acacias, plenty of oil palms. Now I am starting planting seriously! Here is a sample, under the protection because of the cows and Alfred told me to plant them in the shade: five darianii.

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Here are the babies, called ravimbe in malagasy which means "large leaves". In the indian huts are what I foung in ranomafana with doc: clinostigma album. There are also three "menavozona" "red necks".

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Dear Bruno  :)

simply lovely pictures of Ste Marie_Madagascar.

i loved every still of your's.terrefic job & nice photo-

graphy.

and the ariel shots were my favouriates !

it really made me think how nice it would be

if i grow wings and become a phoenix bird.

and travell to beautiful locations seen in your

stills.

in one of your stills their is beautiful & sweet Pet(Dog)

Seen_i loved it too !

nice pictures & wish to see more.

thanks for sharing.

love,

Kris(India).

love conquers all..

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(bruno @ Sep. 13 2006,00:32)

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OK, if you all agree this euterpe, I will go for it and plant more. I took 10 seedlings back with me to Tana.

I have five hectares of land in SM, with plenty o f huge avocadoes, clove trees, about 150 coconuts? a bare hill with some acacias, plenty of oil palms. Now I am starting planting seriously! Here is a sample, under the protection because of the cows and Alfred told me to plant them in the shade: five darianii.

Bruno,

I agree, they're Euterpe.  It looks like you did a good job protecting the young darianii from the sun and cows!  What other palms are you planning to grow with your five acres on SM?  Have you planted any others in the ground yet?  

Jack

Jack Sayers

East Los Angeles

growing cold tolerant palms halfway between the equator and the arctic circle...

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Thanks Kris for your nice comments. Here is one more aerial pic for you and friends.

This is the southern tip of sainte marie. If you look at google earth and zoom down on the island lying east of Madagascar you can see the little island seen from the cockpit here. South! you see the airfield and Ile aux nattes. 11 hotels are on it today. There was no one there until about 7 years ago. I'm so sad.

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Still aboard with still the southern tip of sainte marie. Many tourists come ther to swim. I found a nice weeping tree growing near the sea there, that supposedly comes from australia. A guide told me that but he would not give me the name twice. He was drunk....

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During that 40 minute flight, the pilot had a little fun! We were "under" the top of the filao trees, going 250km/h.  My children aboard were thrilled. I hope you don't mind that i'm not alking about palms only?

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Here is the house. The five hectares are just behind. The jetty belongs to the hotel princesse bora lodge who took us aboard.

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And that beautiful red flowering tree in front of the house. It is erithryna something.  I had never seen it in bloom, never being there in august.

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Unfortunately the time to leave arrived. We went back to the big island by boat, not by plane and stopped in two places.

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Just off the boat, sitting on a hill, a lone palm. Not another one similar all around. Can you tell me what it is? ID?

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El Hoagie, I have only planted a few clinostigma album, menavozona red neck, 3 licuala but I don't know which; Alfred gave them to me. One sealing wax palm that I brought back from Mauritius, some lutescens, and royals. More in November. I'll use Jeff Searle's list for that purpose.

Pogobob: little surf, my children were on the small waves everyday at high tide. They had larger waves at a place called mahambo close to Toamasina.

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That's a nice looking palm, and it looks to me like a Dypsis...finally a Madagascar native.  Could it be Dypsis tsaravoasira?

Matt

San Diego

0.6 Acres of a south facing, gently sloped dirt pile, soon to be impenetrable jungle

East of Mount Soledad, in the biggest cold sink in San Diego County.

Zone 10a (I hope), Sunset 24

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Thanks Bruno for your pictures. They are always interesting. I've looked at the Ile St Marie on Google Earth, but your pics are much better.

regards

Tyrone

Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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Bruno,

I looked at Palms of Madagascar last night and the locality for Dypsis tsaravoasira is directly west of Ile St Marie.  The palm definitely resembles the photo of Dypsis tsaravoasira in POM.  Anyone else have other ideas?

Matt

San Diego

0.6 Acres of a south facing, gently sloped dirt pile, soon to be impenetrable jungle

East of Mount Soledad, in the biggest cold sink in San Diego County.

Zone 10a (I hope), Sunset 24

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OK thanks Matt It will then be a tsaravoasira then! A lone one. Here is the main avenue of the little town of fénérive, lined with green bismarckias.

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And last, we stopped again at vakona forest lodge in Andasibe and I saw again the black dypsis. It has red petioles black trunk and white crownshaft. This time I found about a pound of seeds on the ground.

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