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Best non-suckering, slim trunk Dypsis?


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Hi Palmys,

Okay-about 2/3 of the way up my hill, I have a small, level spot that looks out toward Los Angeles and, on a clear day, the beach.

I want to plant a small grove of slim trunked, moderate height Dypsis. Hopefully, all the same variety. I plan to plant some deer-resistant tropicals and succulents under these palms.

The soil is decomposing granite. Strong winds about a third of the year and the whole planting area need to be able to live on water once a week. My first ideas:

  • Dypsis madagascariensis
  • Dypsis sainte-lucei
  • Dypsis florencei
  • Dypsis ambositrae
  • Dypsis arenarum

Your thoughts?

Thanks,

David

Hollywood Hills West, Los Angeles, CA USA

Southwest facing canyon | Altitude 600 - 775 feet | Decomposing granite
USDA Zone 10b | AHS 6 | Sunset Zone 23 | Köppen Csb | No frost or freezes
Average Low 49 F°/9.4 C° | Average High 79 F°/28.8 C° | Average Rainfall 20"/50.8 cm

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David,

With occasional strong winds and (presumably) full sun, you would need something sturdy. Some of the smaller ones that you mention probably wouldn't make it in the long run. Dypsis madagascariensis might be a good choice, but most are not singletrunked. And Dypsis sp. florencei has been confirmed by John Dransfield as D. paludosa. But I don't think that would be a good choice.

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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No question, go for the Dypsis "fakey" "fine-leaf" ambositrae. These palms are perfect for what you're going for - full sun, wind-proof, little water, thin trunked, not too tall...

Jack Sayers

East Los Angeles

growing cold tolerant palms halfway between the equator and the arctic circle...

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"Fine leaf" is a good one. But sainte lucei, other than being on the slow side, beat's 'em all IMO. Can tolerate full, (though not blazing) sun, and is cold tolerant down to at least 29F when established. If I had more room, I'd plant a dozen or so..

Bret

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

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When I saw the thread title, I thought what Jack said. I think Bret choice is good, but harder to do.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

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I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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No question, go for the Dypsis "fakey" "fine-leaf" ambositrae. These palms are perfect for what you're going for - full sun, wind-proof, little water, thin trunked, not too tall...

You are so right about the fine-leaf's wind-resistance! And they do love sun.

I like the look of Saintlucei better, but mine has had a bit of trouble with wind.

St. Pete

Zone - a wacked-out place between 9b & 10

Elevation = 44' - not that it does any good

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I would definately eliminate D. florencei/paludosa. I have one that is definately having problems surviving even with kid glove treatment. It is also showing some suckers. I have had it for about two years and it has major probs with brown tipping and took a beating with the hot dry days we had recently. I would vote for the "fine leaf" also.

Alan Brickey

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I am with Alan of Dypsis florencei. Grow great and fast in the greenhouse (where mine were bought from). Once outside, they just look bad. Never can keep them from brown tipping. Then winter comes and beats them up even more. Although I have got them through a few crappy winters here, it just isn't worth it.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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Thanks for the input. I think I will get a bunch of Dypsis Saintlucei.

David

Hollywood Hills West, Los Angeles, CA USA

Southwest facing canyon | Altitude 600 - 775 feet | Decomposing granite
USDA Zone 10b | AHS 6 | Sunset Zone 23 | Köppen Csb | No frost or freezes
Average Low 49 F°/9.4 C° | Average High 79 F°/28.8 C° | Average Rainfall 20"/50.8 cm

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