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Do They Hybridize - Licuala, Pinanga, Calyptrocalyx ???


Dypsisdean

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If I'm interested in keeping seed pure, how careful do I need be when considering where to plant these various genera?

For example:

What happens if I put my L. mapu under my L. elegans? Or my C. micholitzii under my C. spicatus. Or P. disticha under my P. speciosa. Or..............you get the idea?

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

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I don't think you should have those species together in your yarden. They might hybridize and you'll get unpure seed. The only safe thing is to bring them back to CA, preferably Spring Valley, where there is no chance of them fruting and causing unwanted hybrids.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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I don't think you should have those species together in your yarden. They might hybridize and you'll get unpure seed. The only safe thing is to bring them back to CA, preferably Spring Valley, where there is no chance of them fruiting and causing unwanted hybrids.

Thanks Matty,

I know I can always come here for cutting edge scientific knowledge.

Oh --- "no chance of them fruiting" --- didn't you mean "growing?"

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

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no grow = no fruit.....no?

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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nothing

I got nothing to add....

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Have I Stumped the Stars?

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

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Have I Stumped the Stars?

Perhaps, but you sure got Matty fired up :mrlooney:

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Living in Paradise, Leeward O`ahu, Hawai`i, USA
Temperature range yearly from say 95 to 62 degrees F
Only 3 hurricanes in the past 51 years and no damage. No floods where I am, No tornados, No earthquakes
No moles, squirrels, chipmunks, deer, etc. Just the neighbors "wild" chickens

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Have I Stumped the Stars?

If I were you I'd send a PM to a couple of people I know, you know, and that we know most likely know the answer. Know what I mean ?

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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I remember Mikey told me ages ago.... that most licuala flower at different time?? After having 2 kids, my memory is shocking :blink: . I think we were talking about hybridizing them, and he mentioned that to me.

Not sure about the rest. My Pinanga and Calyptrocalyx are a bit small. Next time I call Mikey, I will definitely ask him.

Regards, Ari :)

Ari & Scott

Darwin, NT, Australia

-12°32'53" 131°10'20"

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Mikey reckons that there is a possibility of the Calyptrocalyx freely hybridising , but the other spp. would need some manual stimilation .

Michael in palm paradise,

Tully, wet tropics in Australia, over 4 meters of rain every year.

Home of the Golden Gumboot, its over 8m high , our record annual rainfall.

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Dean,

Interesting question, but I'm afraid I don't know the answer yet since most of my palms only started fruiting/flowering over the last several years. Not enough time has gone by for me to be able to establish whether hybridization is something to be concerned about. But if it is, some of the Pinanga hybrids would definitely be pretty interesting and colorful! :)

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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