norwegian Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Hi everybody! This is my first post to the forum here I come from Norway and believe it or not we got palms trees up here too! Trachycarpus fortunei and Chamaerops humilis are among the most popular palms to grow in our cold climate. I have made a website about growing palm trees in Scandinavia - hope the page can inspire some of you that grow hardy palm trees worldwide. Scanpalm - Everything about palms in Scandinavia There is also a new forum on the page that you may participate in, many interesting topics. Scanpalm - discussion board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgl Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Hei Thomas, och velkommen til IPS Forumet - vi vill ha flere medlemmer i Skandinavien! I looked at your site. Very nice video! And lots of great information. Took a quick look at your forum as well, and will go back to check it out in more detail tomorrow (we're going some place in about 15 minutes, so my time is limited right now). I hope you'll be a regular contributor here. Lots of other people from cooler, or colder, places, even though you and a few of your fellow Norwegians in all likelihood are the northernmost PalmTalk members. Are you also in the Kristiansand area? Aloha fra Hawaii! Bo-Göran Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Keith Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Thomas, Great site you got going. You certainly like a challenge, but the challenge is what brings gardeners together. Good to have you on board here. I will visit your site regularly as well. In my post I sometimes express "my" opinion. Warning, it may differ from "your" opinion. If so, please do not feel insulted, just state your own if you wish. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or any other damages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Johnson Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Way cool Thomas. No pun intended. Many people here want to know the limits of palm growing and you have shown some new ones. I am sure there will be more questions and requests as well as offers of palms to you to see if they will grow there. It would be great to have you as a regular poster! I DIG PALMS Call me anytime to chat about transplanting palms. 305-345-8918 https://www.facebook...KenJohnsonPalms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simona Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Hello & wellcome norvegian, Here is a quote from your website: Scandinavia has a much milder climate than other areas on the same latitude, because of the warm water of the Gulf Stream. The very mildest areas (the coast of Sunnmøre) can actually be classed up to USDA zone 9A. ....and that is quite an interesting fact. Thanks, for presenting your website! Greetings from Amman/Jordan Simona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwegian Posted June 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Thank you all for your nice comments and positive feedback! It certainly is a challenge growing palm trees up here in the north. I do not live in the Kristiansand area, but in Ålesund on the west coast of Norway which is situated on latitude 62,5N. I believe this is the northernmost possible to grow palms as the coast further north gets colder fast. USDA zone 9 is correct, it never gets really cold here - but on the other side it never gets really warm in the summer over a long period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomsDave Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Thank you all for your nice comments and positive feedback! It certainly is a challenge growing palm trees up here in the north. I do not live in the Kristiansand area, but in Ålesund on the west coast of Norway which is situated on latitude 62,5N. I believe this is the northernmost possible to grow palms as the coast further north gets colder fast. USDA zone 9 is correct, it never gets really cold here - but on the other side it never gets really warm in the summer over a long period. Norwegian! You are, as we say, AWESOME! Ahem. Pushing boundaries, all of that. So, do you get frost frequently? If not, try Rhopalistylus sapida or baueri, or even if yes try them anyway. PICTURES! Seriously! PICTURES. Let's keep our forum fun and friendly. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgl Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Thomas, Yes, pictures would definitely be of interest! And you're in Ålesund - wow, that's impressive! For those who havn't gone thru the trouble of looking at a map, Ålesund is further north than the south tip of Greenland. It is also further north than Anchorage, AK! About USDA zone 9: there's an additional aspect that I'm sure makes it quite a challenge to grow palms in Ålesund at latitude 62.5N. If I'm not mistaken, Houston TX and New Orleans LA are also in USDA zone 9, but they are at latitude 30N! The difference in daylight hours during the winter between 30N and 62N is mindboggling, which means that during Dec-Feb the sun just barely gets up above the horizon at lat 62N, and for a very short time. Doesn't give it time to warm up much of anything. The good news of course is the Gulfstream, which is close by, and provides for relatively mild winters. So, I'm really curious, are there any palms in Ålesund that have survived outdoors for any length of time? Bo-Göran Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwegian Posted June 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Thomas, Yes, pictures would definitely be of interest! And you're in Ålesund - wow, that's impressive! For those who havn't gone thru the trouble of looking at a map, Ålesund is further north than the south tip of Greenland. It is also further north than Anchorage, AK! About USDA zone 9: there's an additional aspect that I'm sure makes it quite a challenge to grow palms in Ålesund at latitude 62.5N. If I'm not mistaken, Houston TX and New Orleans LA are also in USDA zone 9, but they are at latitude 30N! The difference in daylight hours during the winter between 30N and 62N is mindboggling, which means that during Dec-Feb the sun just barely gets up above the horizon at lat 62N, and for a very short time. Doesn't give it time to warm up much of anything. The good news of course is the Gulfstream, which is close by, and provides for relatively mild winters. So, I'm really curious, are there any palms in Ålesund that have survived outdoors for any length of time? Bo-Göran If you want to see pictures than check out the scanpalm photogallery: Scanpalm - Photogallery At the darkest day in december the sun gets only about 4degrees above the horizon, so it's practically gone... it's the warm waters of the gulf stream that makes everything possible! My palms date back to the summer 2004 and they do fine without any heating, only some shed for the wind in the winter. So check out the photogallery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmatierMeg Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Thomas, welcome to Palmtalk. Great pictures. I see you grow cactus outdoors, too. Meg Palms of Victory I shall wear Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise) Florida Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal Elevation: 15 feetI'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicure3 Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Awesome websote you put up. You obviously put a lot of work into it. Congratulations. It is amazing where palms will grow. Not sure i would try a pigaffeta just yet, but with global warming, you never know..... Coastal San Diego, California Z10b Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean warm summer/mild winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaston in Argentina Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Hello Thomas. Congratulations for the excelent website!!! Some people here would never belive that palms grow in Norway.- I have seen the website before, its greath information about what you can grow there.- Im favorably impressed that our Trithrinax campestris grow fine there, near Oslo city if i undestand well that its where they are beeing cultivated as big imported palms.- Try more and more, they never fail and will give nice mutitrunked palms to the skandinavian scenary.- I usually see skandinavian tourist people around here lately, but they arent interested watch the palms trees of the mountains, i think that not many people in your countries know that can grow many species in their yards and your website give a lot of information.- We can make an exchange, sendus the nice ladies that live in Finland, Norway, Sweden and Denmark, and i sendyou Trithrinax campestris palms trees :-) I think they can be addapted to our temperate and dry climate :-))))) Cheers from Cordoba, Argentina. Gaston Torres Vera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomsDave Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Those are great pictures. Want to try some King Palms? I've got oodles of seed . . . . Let's keep our forum fun and friendly. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmislandRandy Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Welcome! And I thought growing C rendas in South Florida was a challenge! "If you need me, I'll be outside" -Randy Wiesner Palm Beach County, Florida Zone 10Bish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwegian Posted June 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Hello Thomas. Congratulations for the excelent website!!! Some people here would never belive that palms grow in Norway.- I have seen the website before, its greath information about what you can grow there.- Im favorably impressed that our Trithrinax campestris grow fine there, near Oslo city if i undestand well that its where they are beeing cultivated as big imported palms.- Try more and more, they never fail and will give nice mutitrunked palms to the skandinavian scenary.- I usually see skandinavian tourist people around here lately, but they arent interested watch the palms trees of the mountains, i think that not many people in your countries know that can grow many species in their yards and your website give a lot of information.- We can make an exchange, sendus the nice ladies that live in Finland, Norway, Sweden and Denmark, and i sendyou Trithrinax campestris palms trees :-) I think they can be addapted to our temperate and dry climate :-))))) Cheers from Cordoba, Argentina. Gaston Torres Vera There are no Thrithrinax around the Oslo area, those that have been planted out are close to Stavanger. I agree, not many Scandinavians know that they can grow palm trees in their garden - in fact many has not even considered the idea at all of having something else than the standard northern bushes and trees. Today I bought myself a Butia capitata, will plant it in my garden tomorrow!! And I thinking about buying a Washingtonia filifera too! I will of course upload photos the scanpalm photogallery. In the meantime, the scanpalm photogallery has received photos from other exotic gardeners in Denmark - you may wanna take a look at Scanpalm - Silkeborg photos Scanpalm - Lyngby photos (garden with a big Jubaea chilensis!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgl Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Thomas, Nice photos from Denmark, and seeing palms in snow is definitely a different look! It would seem that some of those Trachycarpus are very carefully planted close to a wall, that's presumably facing south. I'm curious, where would you buy a Butia capitata when you live in Ålesund? And what size is it? And, as you've probably already noticed, I registered on the Scanpalm forum a few hours ago. Aloha, Bo-Göran Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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