Jump to content

  • WELCOME GUEST

    It looks as if you are viewing PalmTalk as an unregistered Guest.

    Please consider registering so as to take better advantage of our vast knowledge base and friendly community.  By registering you will gain access to many features - among them are our powerful Search feature, the ability to Private Message other Users, and be able to post and/or answer questions from all over the world. It is completely free, no “catches,” and you will have complete control over how you wish to use this site.

    PalmTalk is sponsored by the International Palm Society. - an organization dedicated to learning everything about and enjoying palm trees (and their companion plants) while conserving endangered palm species and habitat worldwide. Please take the time to know us all better and register.

    guest Renda04.jpg

Butyagrus variations

Gtlevine

By Gtlevine
in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE

 Share

Recommended Posts

CromulentKevin Collaborator

CromulentKevin

Posted
Posted

I am very interested in obtaining a mule palm. . .I remember hearing that there is a hybrid of a pindo and a queen palm, but I forgot about it until I saw this thread. I think this would be a great palm for me here in Temecula. It would be nice to get a palm that not everyone has which is also not incredibly marginal like some of the ones I try. Does anybody know a grower with these for sale of a reasonable size? Obviously this topic is about different variations of it, so is there a type or a source where I'm more likely to get an extra beautiful specimen? I'm sold on getting one of these. I just need to know where!

On a sidenote, I have a wonderful fat pindo palm in the front of my house which has an enormous leaf size for its height. And yes, I've eaten the fruits from it and they are actually quite tasty when ripe. Never tried making a jelly out of them because I'm too lazy :) I know these are common in the scheme of things, but really I don't see nearly that many of them compared to queen palms and windmill palms and all that. They are really rather interesting beautiful palms and they are so cold hardy and tolerate the blazing sun. What's not to like? I had two of them, but the city made me rip one out because they said it was encroaching on a water line. Those punks!

PalmGuyWC Grand Master

PalmGuyWC

Posted
Posted

There are several current threads on Jubaeas, Butyagrus, etc. but I guess this is the appropriate thread for the following: Yesterday I inspected the first Jubaea inflorescence of the season that Patrick Schafer had emasculated the week before. The female flowers were just begining to open, so today they should be at max anthesis. He plans to arrive today to cross the Jubaea with Parajubaea sunkha. Repeated attempts to cross Jubaea with P. cocoides has resulted in only two hybrid plants. We are hoping that P. sunkha will be more compatible with Jubaea. Gary, in another thread stated that he thinks P. sunkha is the most desirable, and easy to grow of the Parajubaeas, so if successful, this should make a very interesting cross. We should know in a couple of weeks if the cross was successful, as by that time the flowers will either abort or remain on the tree. I'll keep you posted.

Dick

Richard Douglas

Gtlevine Grand Master

Gtlevine

Posted
  • Author
Posted

I love my Sunkha's, definitely the toughest of the Parajubaea and for my taste the best looking of the genus. I hope you have success with this cross and I will be first in line to want a seedling.

Gary

Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

PalmGuyWC Grand Master

PalmGuyWC

Posted
Posted

Hi Gary,

You indicatd in an earlier thread that you had some good sized P.sunkhas. Do you have any pictures of them? If the Jubaea X sunkha cross is not successful, Patrick also crossed Butia X sunkha which is much more likely to be successful as Butias seem to be much more receptive to foreign pollen.

Dick

Richard Douglas

Gtlevine Grand Master

Gtlevine

Posted
  • Author
Posted
Hi Gary,

You indicatd in an earlier thread that you had some good sized P.sunkhas. Do you have any pictures of them? If the Jubaea X sunkha cross is not successful, Patrick also crossed Butia X sunkha which is much more likely to be successful as Butias seem to be much more receptive to foreign pollen.

Dick

I started a new thread and posted some pictures.

Gary

Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

  • 2 weeks later...
palmsrgreat Experienced

palmsrgreat

Posted
Posted

I really enjoy this thread and would like to get some more discussion and talk around it.

I mentioned I was going to post an update here of one of my xButyagrus, so I thought I'd include a before and after photo of a palm I got in a 7gal container.

The first was planted on 3/30/07.

The second photo was taken on 6/14/08.

post-294-1214533650_thumb.jpg

post-294-1214533675_thumb.jpg

  • 4 weeks later...
ErikSJI Veteran

ErikSJI

Posted
Posted

Here are some more photos of some butyagrus from http://www.mulepalm.com

I have 200 going in the ground in the san juan islands, puget sound, pacific northwest so any pointers would be appreciated.

post-1930-1216583908_thumb.jpg

post-1930-1216583937_thumb.jpg

MAUSER Proficient

MAUSER

Posted
Posted (edited)

This is very nice. Butia eriospatha x Queen

xx200608xx118.jpg

Another of my favorite

butyagrus006.jpg

Edited by MAUSER
ESMUR3000000030009A.gif
ErikSJI Veteran

ErikSJI

Posted
Posted

pics of butyagrus triples and doubles.

post-1930-1217175638_thumb.jpg

post-1930-1217175654_thumb.jpg

  • 1 year later...
ErikSJI Veteran

ErikSJI

Posted
Posted

I love rare palms, but I love green palms even more hence, I have a collection of about a dozen Butyagrus. Here is a small cross section of some of my favorites.

This one is an F2 from the Huntington Butyagrus

DSC_2106.jpg

This is another F2 from the Huntington Butyagrus, I have posted this picture before. This palm is about 15 to twenty feet and super fat.

DSC_2138.jpg

This one is from Tim Hopper in Florida

DSC_2108.jpg

This final one was sent as a gift to me from Merril Wilcox. What I like about this one is it has black petioles.

DSC_2072.jpg

Hope you enjoy these, plant lots of them because they stay green through hot, cold, and they even went through my fire storm and barely got touched.

Gary

Here are some photos of some more to compare.

Erik

post-1930-12713454972533_thumb.jpg

post-1930-12713455729548_thumb.jpg

post-1930-12713456502318_thumb.jpg

post-1930-12713457845476_thumb.jpg

post-1930-12713459128017_thumb.jpg

ErikSJI Veteran

ErikSJI

Posted
Posted

I love rare palms, but I love green palms even more hence, I have a collection of about a dozen Butyagrus. Here is a small cross section of some of my favorites.

This one is an F2 from the Huntington Butyagrus

DSC_2106.jpg

This is another F2 from the Huntington Butyagrus, I have posted this picture before. This palm is about 15 to twenty feet and super fat.

DSC_2138.jpg

This one is from Tim Hopper in Florida

DSC_2108.jpg

This final one was sent as a gift to me from Merril Wilcox. What I like about this one is it has black petioles.

DSC_2072.jpg

Hope you enjoy these, plant lots of them because they stay green through hot, cold, and they even went through my fire storm and barely got touched.

Gary

Here are some photos of some more to compare.

Erik

Some more....

post-1930-12713463632849_thumb.jpg

post-1930-12713463978971_thumb.jpg

post-1930-12713464306063_thumb.jpg

post-1930-12713464631467_thumb.jpg

ErikSJI Veteran

ErikSJI

Posted
Posted

I love rare palms, but I love green palms even more hence, I have a collection of about a dozen Butyagrus. Here is a small cross section of some of my favorites.

This one is an F2 from the Huntington Butyagrus

DSC_2106.jpg

This is another F2 from the Huntington Butyagrus, I have posted this picture before. This palm is about 15 to twenty feet and super fat.

DSC_2138.jpg

This one is from Tim Hopper in Florida

DSC_2108.jpg

This final one was sent as a gift to me from Merril Wilcox. What I like about this one is it has black petioles.

DSC_2072.jpg

Hope you enjoy these, plant lots of them because they stay green through hot, cold, and they even went through my fire storm and barely got touched.

Gary

Here are some photos of some more to compare.

Erik

Some more....

Some more.....

post-1930-12713466045281_thumb.jpg

post-1930-12713466709264_thumb.jpg

post-1930-12713467155167_thumb.jpg

ErikSJI Veteran

ErikSJI

Posted
Posted

Here are some more photos of some butyagrus from http://www.mulepalm.com

I have 200 going in the ground in the san juan islands, puget sound, pacific northwest so any pointers would be appreciated.

More....

post-1930-12713468848036_thumb.jpg

post-1930-12713469610442_thumb.jpg

ErikSJI Veteran

ErikSJI

Posted
Posted

Here are some more photos of some butyagrus from http://www.mulepalm.com

I have 200 going in the ground in the san juan islands, puget sound, pacific northwest so any pointers would be appreciated.

More....

More...

post-1930-12713471876286_thumb.jpg

post-1930-12713472156901_thumb.jpg

ErikSJI Veteran

ErikSJI

Posted
Posted

Some more...

First photo butia x syagrus x syagrus.

Second photo seedlings compared... Butia x syagrus / Butia / Butia x cocos.

post-1930-12713479006857_thumb.jpg

post-1930-12713480248918_thumb.jpg

ErikSJI Veteran

ErikSJI

Posted
Posted

More photos.. first photo Spencer Mallets Mule palm in Texas.... and another of a curved Mule...

post-1930-12713483307326_thumb.jpg

post-1930-12713483671448_thumb.jpg

Tejastropicals Enthusiast

Tejastropicals

Posted
Posted

I imagine Spencer's mule doesnt look that good after our January freezes. My mules recieved 80% damage from consecutive 15 and 17f nights. I was surprised by the amount of damage based on others experiences here. This is the coldest we have experienced in 10 yrs so its been a learning experience relative to palm cold hardiness. As cocoids go the Jub hybrids were unscathed as were my Jubs but the Butyagrus are not generally good to below 15f as some have indicated. I have/had about 300 7 gal or larger BxS from multiple sources in Florida and Calif. and they all have similar damage.

David Glover

Growing cold hardy palms and tropicals in Coldspring, Tx

http://www.tejastropicals.com

ErikSJI Veteran

ErikSJI

Posted
Posted

I imagine Spencer's mule doesnt look that good after our January freezes. My mules recieved 80% damage from consecutive 15 and 17f nights. I was surprised by the amount of damage based on others experiences here. This is the coldest we have experienced in 10 yrs so its been a learning experience relative to palm cold hardiness. As cocoids go the Jub hybrids were unscathed as were my Jubs but the Butyagrus are not generally good to below 15f as some have indicated. I have/had about 300 7 gal or larger BxS from multiple sources in Florida and Calif. and they all have similar damage.

Ouch.... I would like to know how Spencers did as I know where it came from. You guys did have a harsh winter.

Erik

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing



  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...