Utopia botanicals - walkin' with Clayton

[Walter John]

Okay, moving on now to another famous hybrid palm, the "vanilla milkshake" palm, man if only we had an "orange crush" next to it. :lol:

sorry folks, I digress.

Here's Utopias famous Dypsis pembana x decaryii hybrid or was that cabadae x decaryii ? who cares, it looks fantastic but mysteriously has not really grown any taller for ages. Must be at it's peak height ?

[Walter John]

More of these Dypsis palms planted around in out of the way spots. Those petiole colours are glorious.

There was a path here somewhere. I let Clayton go in front, a few "Joe Blakes" around the joint apparently.

[palmtreesforpleasure]

Hi Wal

Another great tour, with descriptive comments. Glad you remembered the memory stick. Any pictures of the security system, definitely no midnight nursery supplies at Utopia.

regards

Colin

[Walter John]

Hi Wal

Another great tour, with descriptive comments. Glad you remembered the memory stick. Any pictures of the security system, definitely no midnight nursery supplies at Utopia.

regards

Colin

Hi Col, thanks mate, a few more pics to go, and the security system is most definitely in place, Donna has some new quilting material to prove it.

[Walter John]

Meanwhile back on the path that time forgot, we came out the other side and smack in front was this.

We looked to our left and............no way through there

I heard a rumble in the jungle sound and we glanced quickly to our right

So we climbed a tree and swung on some vines back to the nursery. Sorry no pics.

[Walter John]

As I said earlier, there are about 4 million chambeyronia palms planted throughout Utopia, so I asked Clayton which was his most vivid of the lot, which C dot macrocarpa had the top shelf watermelon striations, and here folks for your viewing pleasure is the ultimate winner.

[Walter John]

More of the winner.........

[Walter John]

Here's some of Utopia's rare clumping palms:

Phoenix roebelenii

Syagrus (I think ?)

[Walter John]

More rare clumpers

Dypsis onilahensis var bef

Licuala ramsayii (yes, you heard it right)

[Walter John]

Here's some more onilahensis befs, what a truly beautiful palm, I want one bad Clayton (hint hint)...

[Walter John]

Some Basselinias

[calyptrocalyx&licuala freck]

Hi Wal,

Another great thread with lots of cool pictures,

Thanks Dude,

Hey wheres the picture of the snake with the

cane toad in its mouth,(Double road kill there.)

Hey Wal, Woof Woof

Regards Mikey

[Walter John]

Finally, a few pics of the most valuable seed toss occurence anywhere in the palm world. Clayton tossed some Lemurophoenix seeds on an embankment many years ago and today, this is the result. Multi plantings of one of the most specatular palms on the planet and invariably one of the most sought after palms going, the "Lemurophoenix halleuxii".

Thanks again Clayton and Terese for allowing these photos onto the board for all to see. I have High Def copies of all if you are interested.

[Walter John]

Back into the shade cave we go..........

[Walter John]

Hi Wal,

Another great thread with lots of cool pictures,

Thanks Dude,

Hey wheres the picture of the snake with the

cane toad in its mouth,(Double road kill there.)

Hey Wal, Woof Woof

Regards Mikey

Don't you woof woof me you hopping kiwi you

why couldn't they have labradors ? Donna doesn't mind though

Roadkill to go, cane toad eating reptiles do exist:

[Utopia Palms]

Hi Wal

You don’t muck around do you that new camera getting a work out! It was good to take some time off and have a walk around, some of those parts of the garden are quite thick these days If only i had a camera to take a few photos of Wal fighting his way through the jungle!

I wish I could say he made it out in one piece!

Their where snakes, jumping ants thick Bamboo and palms which you would not want to get stuck in to say the least. Some of those areas I have not been into for over 10 years, we had to walk up the creeks just to see some of these palms, which was a big surprise even for me, but hey it was good to take some time out as we have not had much time off in the last few months.

I must say this was Wal second attempt with his new Camera he dropped in just before the big Cairns trip with his new camera all ready to go keen to test it out, he jumped out to take his first photo and the camera said memory card full……Lesson number one never forget your memory card!!!

I think Wal took 2 memory cards with him on that trip.

Hi Kris

All going well over here just very busy, hope all your palms are growing as fast as normal for you and your seeds are all germinating well.

Hi Ari

I had to take Wal into the “bush” to see those Pinangas bring your climbing boots next time and we will give it a go!

Clayton.

[Alicehunter2000]

Love all the palm pics..........but for some reason I got some sort great attraction for the Areca catechu dwarf..........that's not weird..Is It?

[LJG]

Hi Clayton, can you answer two things:

1) How old is that Brahea moorei? If it is indeed that (never thought they liked wet).

2) Is that a cabadae x decaryii cross? Is it related to this one:

http://www.pacsoa.org.au/palms/Dypsis/spWhiteTriangle.html

[ariscott]

Hi Ari

I had to take Wal into the “bush” to see those Pinangas bring your climbing boots next time and we will give it a go!

Clayton.

No worries, Clayton. I will leave my high heels at home .

Regards, Ari

[BS Man about Palms]

Great tour, wish I was there!

[Walter John]

In these photos there is a Calamus warbegii winding through, can you see it ? kind of like where's wally now.

[Walter John]

Clayton's got a hold of C dot warbegii here.

There was this intimidating red spitting hookeri nearby.

[Walter John]

Great tour, wish I was there!

Glad you liked it Bill, just gotta get yourself over here and see it for yourself, there's nothing like the real thing, Oo mama mow-mow.

[Utopia Palms]

Hi Clayton, can you answer two things:

1) How old is that Brahea moorei? If it is indeed that (never thought they liked wet).

2) Is that a cabadae x decaryii cross? Is it related to this one:

http://www.pacsoa.org.au/palms/Dypsis/spWhiteTriangle.html

Hi Len

Answer Q1 It’s a Brahea decumbens, and none of the gardens ever get watered here only what falls from the sky as rain, but it can get quite wet at times, we had over 350mm just last weekend.

Q.2 yes the Dypsis is a D. cabadae x decaryii but it’s never had the white tomentum as the one listed on the PACSOA site.

I think this one is a few years older than the one listed on the PACSOA site and the seedling came from a nursery that had the two seeding palms next to each other, only a very small percentage crosses. I’m not sure of the source of the seed from the one listed on the PACSOA site it’s a great looking palm though!

[Utopia Palms]

Ok Ari we might have to bring up the full rat-pack I think and make a day of it next time.

Hi Bill

Wal has a good time everywhere goes, I should have taken a photo of him swinging from that vine though. I could not get him to sit up on the Corypha you might have to give him a lesson or two when you come over hey.

Clayton

[LJG]

Thanks Clayton. Very nice plants indeed.

[Gtlevine]

Clayton, Wal labeled the hybrid Pembana x Decaryii, not Cabadae x Decaryii. It looks more like Pembana x Decaryii and this would explain the lack of white on the crownshaft. If it is Cabadae x Decaryii, the deep forest could also be an explanation for lack of white crownshaft.

Gary

[deezpalms]

Thanks forthe great tour and photos Wal!!! I loved every minute of it!!

By the way I believe the 2nd. palm post 30 look like a no windows becariophoenix

[Walter John]

Thanks everyone for your kind words.

Looking for IDs on these Livistonas, anybody ?

[Utopia Palms]

Clayton, Wal labeled the hybrid Pembana x Decaryii, not Cabadae x Decaryii. It looks more like Pembana x Decaryii and this would explain the lack of white on the crownshaft. If it is Cabadae x Decaryii, the deep forest could also be an explanation for lack of white crownshaft.

Gary

Hi Garry

Yes It’s a Cabadae cross at that time D. pembana had not come into Australia it was a good 5 to 7 years after when the first Pembana seeds came in.

I was going to put that in about the white on the crownshaft and then i deleted it at the last moment because I did not have any real evidence to back it up, also with D.Leptocheilos it’s actually the opposite although the white powder forms on the trunk it retains this for many years in the shade where as full sun grown plants soon lose it.

Clayton

[Utopia Palms]

Thanks forthe great tour and photos Wal!!! I loved every minute of it!!

By the way I believe the 2nd. palm post 30 look like a no windows becariophoenix

Hi Dave

Yes your right It’s Beccariophoenix madagascariensis!

Now this is sure to start more controversy but this was the first species to be described and is the True species! For some reason a photo of cultivated form of the Window form was “accidentally” put in the Book PMO thus giving us two B. madagascariensis. At the time both these forms were found a few years apart so maybe this led to the confusion?

Also no one suspected at the time that there could be two different species.

I’m not sure why the window form has never been named?

Maybe that’s a good question to ask John

Clayton.

[Walter John]

Thanks everyone for your kind words.

Looking for IDs on these Livistonas, anybody ?

Hi Clayton, speaking to Mike Green today (Newcal), he's fairly sure that these Livistonas are not victoriae but are indeed lanuginosa (Cape River) as you suspected.

[Daryl]

Wal, I'd say they are lanuginosa too. L.victoriae leaves are flatter and not so costapalmate. Plus these look like some of the young Cape Rivers we saw in the wild near Burdekin Dam.

Daryl

Cape River Photos

[Walter John]

Wal, I'd say they are lanuginosa too. L.victoriae leaves are flatter and not so costapalmate. Plus these look like some of the young Cape Rivers we saw in the wild near Burdekin Dam.

Daryl

Cape River Photos

Thanks fellas.

[Walter John]

Hi all, I came upon a graphic program recently (Photomatix pro) and toyed with it's "combine" function and using some of the Utopia pics I have fused these together. Could be good if the right pics are used.

[Carlo Morici]

As I said earlier, there are about 4 million chambeyronia palms planted throughout Utopia, so I asked Clayton which was his most vivid of the lot, which C dot macrocarpa had the top shelf watermelon striations, and here folks for your viewing pleasure is the ultimate winner.

[Walter John]

This photo from the day nearly got away. Can't remember what this was, could you please inform us thanks Clayton ?

[Walter John]

Looking back at the pics I took this day, I found a few more I failed to post so for your discerning eyes, here's a few more for you to ponder over in envy.

I did.

[Walter John]

I'm fairly sure this is the last of the pics..

one more.........what is this ?

[Walter John]

Big difference on the usage of flash on the trunk of this Basselinia gracilis. Lovely palm.

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