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Ravenea Sp (cycadifolia)

Alberto

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Alberto Grand Master

Alberto

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Updates please!!! Charles how your R.dransfieldii compares to R.sp cycadifolia?

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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quaman58 Grand Master

quaman58

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Ben, I think these are the same as R. Louvelii. I have had one in an exposed area for 2 years new. Meaning that it gets both full coastal sun & exposure to cold (32f today). Grows nice & steady and always looks deep green.

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

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Jblume Apprentice

Jblume

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I know this is an old thread, any updates? 

Jonathan Grand Master

Jonathan

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Nice bump, love good mystery.

@Tyrone,  what did yours end up being? Are they still going and have they flowered yet?

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South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

Tyrone Grand Master

Tyrone

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1 hour ago, Jonathan said:

Nice bump, love good mystery.

@Tyrone,  what did yours end up being? Are they still going and have they flowered yet?

They are still going strong but I haven’t planted them yet. I was in Perth when I was active in this thread. I brought them all south with me 11 years ago. About 10 years ago rats or maybe rabbits attacked them again. I may have lost one. Mine have turned out looking what those in the US call Ravenea juliette. I’ve probably spelt that wrong. I reckon they may be Ravenea louvellii or something new. I’ve got plans to plant them all as one colony in a new area I’m creating in the transformed pine forest area. 

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

Jonathan Grand Master

Jonathan

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10 hours ago, Tyrone said:

They are still going strong but I haven’t planted them yet. I was in Perth when I was active in this thread. I brought them all south with me 11 years ago. About 10 years ago rats or maybe rabbits attacked them again. I may have lost one. Mine have turned out looking what those in the US call Ravenea juliette. I’ve probably spelt that wrong. I reckon they may be Ravenea louvellii or something new. I’ve got plans to plant them all as one colony in a new area I’m creating in the transformed pine forest area. 

Interesting! I just had a look at R louvelii on Palmpedia, looks to be a couple of different species in the pics, but the habitat shots look very Ceroxylon-ish. Pretty cool if that's what you have.

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South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

Tyrone Grand Master

Tyrone

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1 hour ago, Jonathan said:

Interesting! I just had a look at R louvelii on Palmpedia, looks to be a couple of different species in the pics, but the habitat shots look very Ceroxylon-ish. Pretty cool if that's what you have.

But then I’ve seen pictures of Ravenea krociana that seem similar to mine. Here’s a link to Palmpedia and the ones from the Mt Warning caldera by Pete (used to be active here) look like mine but only way bigger.

https://palmpedia.net/wiki/Ravenea_krociana

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

Tyrone Grand Master

Tyrone

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The ones at the end of the photos of this link look what I have got.
https://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/Ravenea_julietiae

I don’t think these are Ravenea julietiae as the older habitat shots look nothing like the palms in the final pics by Geoff Stein in Hawaii. 

I can’t wait to get these into the ground this year. I’ve got to do it in a free draining area. I reckon they will take off in the ground. They’ve been very easy care so far. 

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

Jonathan Grand Master

Jonathan

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15 minutes ago, Tyrone said:

The ones at the end of the photos of this link look what I have got.
https://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/Ravenea_julietiae

I don’t think these are Ravenea julietiae as the older habitat shots look nothing like the palms in the final pics by Geoff Stein in Hawaii. 

I can’t wait to get these into the ground this year. I’ve got to do it in a free draining area. I reckon they will take off in the ground. They’ve been very easy care so far. 

Excellent, will be exciting to watch them grow and see what they turn into.

Make sure you post some pics please!

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South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

Jonathan Grand Master

Jonathan

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2 hours ago, knell said:

IMG_4352.thumb.jpeg.49b489bb3e007ddf5007acce4961a188.jpegIMG_4354.thumb.jpeg.5b0ec2033a59057655206fed25127beb.jpeg

https://palms.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/PALMSv64n1p035-042-Dransfield-Ravenea-cycadifolia.pdf

Thanks for the link! Awesome example of convergent evolution...faking a cycad, even the seeds are large and cycad like.

Are the palms above in your garden? 

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South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

tim_brissy_13 Grand Master

tim_brissy_13

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6 hours ago, knell said:

IMG_4352.thumb.jpeg.49b489bb3e007ddf5007acce4961a188.jpegIMG_4354.thumb.jpeg.5b0ec2033a59057655206fed25127beb.jpeg

https://palms.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/PALMSv64n1p035-042-Dransfield-Ravenea-cycadifolia.pdf

Great to see you back on here Knell. Great photos as usual! 
 

I was going to say R cycadifolia had been formally described since this thread started. It is certainly very different to the true R louvellii and every other Ravenea species so it seems there’s probably been some mix up of ID or seed. 
 

The only further contribution I can make to this thread is this photo of R louvelii taken at Sydney BGs in 2018. They look very different to the photos I’ve seen of R cycadifolia. 
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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

Tyrone Grand Master

Tyrone

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6 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Great to see you back on here Knell. Great photos as usual! 
 

I was going to say R cycadifolia had been formally described since this thread started. It is certainly very different to the true R louvellii and every other Ravenea species so it seems there’s probably been some mix up of ID or seed. 
 

The only further contribution I can make to this thread is this photo of R louvelii taken at Sydney BGs in 2018. They look very different to the photos I’ve seen of R cycadifolia. 
image.thumb.jpeg.ddbbf3558b239b766fa7a1fa2f3f8ccb.jpeg

Tim, they look like the ones I’m growing. 

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

knell Mentor

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On 8/7/2025 at 1:56 PM, Jonathan said:

Thanks for the link! Awesome example of convergent evolution...faking a cycad, even the seeds are large and cycad like.

Are the palms above in your garden? 

i work for Floribunda, these are from Jeff’s garden ☺️

Floribunda web jockey / garden gnome

https://floribunda.xyz

Jonathan Grand Master

Jonathan

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9 hours ago, knell said:

i work for Floribunda, these are from Jeff’s garden ☺️

Ah, nice! I imagine that's a pretty cool place to work. 

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South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

realarch Grand Master

realarch

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What a unique and beautiful species. As many times as I’ve been to Floribunda, have not seen this plant. Not an unusual occurrence though, as I see unique and different palms with every visit. It’s actually quite unbelievable.

Tim

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Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

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