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Madagascar Madness

Kim

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bgl Grand Master

bgl

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Kim,

Thanks for additional photos! It's an experience just looking at them. And you're right - 2 days is not bad if you really want to visit a place!

And Bruno,

thanks for your invitation! I'd love to make that trip some day. However, right now, because of other commitments I have (aviation related) I really can't be away for more than a week and a half or so, because when I return I have to get everything done that wasn't done during my time away. And going to Madagascar for that short a time is obviously not an option... :(

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

madagascarbob Rising Star

madagascarbob

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Feel free to upload every picture , there all great !

simona Experienced

simona

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Thank you Kim!

Can't comment...just relaxed and enjoyed every step of it. Simply beautiful!

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Greetings from Amman/Jordan

Simona

MattyB Grand Master

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Awesome!  The Malagasy people are so beautiful.  A very distinct look they have.  Thanks Kim!

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

MASOALA JASON Community Regular

MASOALA JASON

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Yes, thanks for the great pictures Kim. They brought me right back, I miss the flora, fauna, food, and the strikingly beautiful people of the island.

Jeff Searle Grand Master

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Kim,

     I'm smiling for you. It's always great to see someone else visit an exotic place that you once went to. CentRest was a beautiful lodge nesstled in the mountains. Did you get a chance to climb up on Mt. Vatovavy? I look forward to your group of pictures.

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Gtlevine Grand Master

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I just loved Centrest, it was such a peaceful and beautiful place to stay. Lilia the owner was wonderful and a plant enthusiast. I can't explain it to anyone who has never been there, but Centrest and the surrounding Ronamafana rainforest has to be one of the most beautiful places on this planet. Sitting in the dining room sippng on my coffe while watching the chamelions on the walls with the sights and sounds of the rainforest in the background was just unbelievable.

You need to post some more pics Kim,

Gary

Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

DoomsDave Grand Master

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More pics, Kim . . . .

Puh-leeeze . . . .

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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:) Okay, okay!!  I'll quickly post a few before I attend to my other obligations this evening...

Milestone:

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I honestly can't recall if this is Dypsis mananjarensis or ifanadianae;  I'll guess the former.  It's just down the road from Ranomafana, but we have a greater distance to travel.

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Pineapples for sale:

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"Residence" from way back when the French were still here, a line of towering Clinostigma marching up the drive.  The caretaker had planted a few offspring to fill in the blank spots, assuring continuity of their presence here.

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Kim Grand Master

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Such a tall beauty:

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The Residence is now populated by chickens:

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Red clay stairway:

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We were curious about this very large tree in full, glorious bloom with red flowers; any idea what it might be?  (This photo is taken from a great distance, sorry about the lack of detail.)

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Kim Grand Master

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I'm fairly certain these are Dypsis mananjarensis, across a wide ravine from the road, looking magnificent atop a hill:

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Another shot, notice the inflorescence:

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Much further along the road we find this solitary palm, roots holding it bolt upright on the extreme edge of the road cut:

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Let's put a human in there to give you some idea of its size (and can you tell me which species?):

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I'll let you drool over that for awhile; I've got band practice now.  I'll try to post a few more tonight.  We're just now getting into palm country here...

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

DoomsDave Grand Master

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Thanks!

More more more . . . . .

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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bruno Experienced

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Kim, they're all mananjarensis.

When doc D was there he was surprised not too see the "mealy bug" spots ont them.

antananarivo madagascar

altitude 1200m

BS Man about Palms Grand Master

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There has been some rumours lately that the "mealy bug" mananjarensis, may actually be "malcolmberii"  I have no idea, to be sure.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

LJG Grand Master

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(BS, Man about Palms @ Mar. 18 2008,20:17)

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There has been some rumours lately that the "mealy bug" mananjarensis, may actually be "malcolmberii"  I have no idea, to be sure.

No. Why? because I said so.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

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Kim, I am pretty sure the tree with the red flowers is a Dombeya sp. There is a large individual of a Dombeya sp. that is growing at the bottom of fern canyon at the San Diego Zoo that should be flowering about now also.

Kim Grand Master

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This is a beautiful area of Madagascar, on the road to Ifanadiana, because you begin to see many, many palms growing on the hills.

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Still, it was heartbreaking to see large areas on these hills that had been burned and cleared for growing rice or manioc.

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Kim Grand Master

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After a few years, the cleared areas are farmed out, and the farmer moves on to another field; then the Ravenala madagascariensis take over.  We drove through a Ravenala forest. (The vertical stalks are bamboo.)  It had its charms, but thinking about the primary forest that had been lost, it was sad.

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This building is made from the trunks of Ravenala madagascariensis split in half and opened like a book.  I never would have imagined it would be a durable building material, but it seems to work very well.

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Typical village structures.  THB is ubiquitous;  it stands for Three Horses Beer, and according to Steve, it's decent beer.

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A couple of you commented on the beauty of the people of Madagascar, and I must agree.  I wished I might have been invisible to be able to take more portraits of these people who have such beautiful faces and dress with color and style, though they have little in the way of resources.

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Kim Grand Master

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At last we come to a lone Dypsis ifanadianae, and again it's across an impossible ravine.  It looks just out of reach, but could take as much as an hour to reach on foot, requiring hiking up-river to find a crossing point, and bushwhacking all the way, no real trail of course.

The cyclone from a week earlier has left its mark.

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Perhaps that's another young one down below?

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Looks like it might set seed...

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In this photo I was trying to get both the mature upper palm and the smaller palm below in a single frame...

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Kim Grand Master

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Some distance more and we come to a lonely D. ifanadianae on the edge of a hillside area that has been logged recently.  Again, the palm looks ragged from the cyclone, and it looks a little precarious.

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Mt. Vatovavy is still another 1/2 hour away, but we are running out of daylight.  I had hoped to hike up this mountain to see a variety of palms, but it's not possible this trip.  So I have a reason to return, eh?

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Maybe some seed soon on this one too?

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

RainForestt Robert Mentor

RainForestt Robert

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Kim, you have set loose wanderlust in me!!  Thanks for the photos and the narrative.

Robert

Trinidad!  Southernmost island in the Caribbean.

So many plants, So little space.

bruno Experienced

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Kim, on post 57 the number 3 and 4 are d. ifanadianae also!

antananarivo madagascar

altitude 1200m

Kim Grand Master

Kim

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(bruno @ Mar. 19 2008,09:54)

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Kim, on post 57 the number 3 and 4 are d. ifanadianae also!

Thanks Bruno!   :)

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Kim Grand Master

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(MASOALA JASON @ Mar. 18 2008,20:34)

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Kim, I am pretty sure the tree with the red flowers is a Dombeya sp. There is a large individual of a Dombeya sp. that is growing at the bottom of fern canyon at the San Diego Zoo that should be flowering about now also.

Jason, I believe you are correct.  Dombeya cacuminum is endemic to Madagascar, and I found a photo of one in bloom at the Huntington, looks like a match.  Thanks!

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Gtlevine Grand Master

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(BS @ Man about Palms,Mar. 18 2008,23:17)

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There has been some rumours lately that the "mealy bug" mananjarensis, may actually be "malcolmberii"  I have no idea, to be sure.

Rumor is false, Dypsis Malcomberii comes from Andahehela in South East Madagascar, the area where Kim was is out of range so all the palms are Manajarensis. The palms do have the Mealy Bug markings that Kim is photographing, but you can't see them from the ground. I used my zoom lens to get a closer look and I could see the marks.

Gary

Rock Ridge Ranch

South Escondido

5 miles ENE Rancho Bernardo

33.06N 117W, Elevation 971 Feet

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I'm curious about the Clinostigma palms at the bottom of post 49 and top of 50.  Could these possibly be Dictyosperma?  I've never seen a Clinostigma look like that.  Euterpe?  No.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Kim Grand Master

Kim

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I'm curious about the Clinostigma palms at the bottom of post 49 and top of 50.  Could these possibly be Dictyosperma?  I've never seen a Clinostigma look like that.  Euterpe?  No.

I should have taken a photo of the juveniles; they did not resemble the Clinostigma savoryanum  I've tried to grow.  My young Cliino had bifid leaves; these were already pinnate.  Also the petioles on mine were green, these were red-brown.  So I figured they had to be a different Clinostigma?  They weren't labeled... :P

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Kim Grand Master

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On the way back to CentRest we make a quick stop at Lilia's nursery.  It's getting dark quickly, but we take a look around -- watch out for the HUGE spiders hanging overhead!

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She grows many anthurium, palms, heliconia, gingers, orchids, foliage plants, everything your heart desires!

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Rose de porcelaine, Etlingera elatior

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Sobralia

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Kim Grand Master

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Next morning we get up early and dash out to see the Ranomafana Arboretum, a botanical collection put together by an American, Don Turk.

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This is a collection of trees endemic to Madagascar, but in the steady rain I was only willing to photograph this unknown Dypsis.

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Kim Grand Master

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Well, if that's a Dypsis lastelliana, it's the hunkiest one I've ever seen; big beefy trunk.

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Oooo, aaaaah, check out that color!!

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Bruno seeking shelter from the storm:

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At breakfast we discuss our plans with Lilia, and she decides to join us on the spot.  So the four of us drive off toward the west, destination: Isalo.

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Kim Grand Master

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On the Road

We don't get far before we are distracted by some palms by the roadside -- could these be the Vakona 'black stem'?

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We think not.  What do you think?  (They were planted in a row, not wild.)

Special for Bruno, le vrai malgache:

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Yes, another village, can't help it, I love these colors...

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Kim Grand Master

Kim

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Scenes from the road...

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Celtel, THB

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Market day

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River and terraces

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Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Walter John Grand Master

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fabulous

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

bgl Grand Master

bgl

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Kim,

Thanks for all the photos! Palms or people or scenery - they're all great! :)

And I agree with MattyB - tall palms in Post 49 and 50 are NOT Clinostigmas. And the Dypsis in #69 is not a lastelliana. But I don't know what it is. Must be in the carlsmithii/sp. bejofa complex.

Bo-Göran

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

paulgila Grand Master

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wonderful pix,kim!the palms are amazing & yer shoots of flowers jump right off the screen.now i've got them all over the floor :P

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

Scott Mentor

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Kim - Truly incredible shots! I love your attention to detail. This also must have been a real educational trip in so many ways. we're lucky to have you share your experiences! :)

Scott

San Fernando Valley, California

Sunset Climate Zone 18

MattyB Grand Master

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(bgl @ Mar. 19 2008,18:41)

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Kim,

Thanks for all the photos! Palms or people or scenery - they're all great! :)

And I agree with MattyB - tall palms in Post 49 and 50 are NOT Clinostigmas. And the Dypsis in #69 is not a lastelliana. But I don't know what it is. Must be in the carlsmithii/sp. bejofa complex.

Bo-Göran

Well I did teach Bo everything he knows. :D

Great tour Kim!  Thanks.  I love the village shots and of the people with their colorful garb.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

madagascarbob Rising Star

madagascarbob

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Wowie Wow Wow Wo Hoo !

Jeff Searle Grand Master

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Kim,

   Even though I didn't see these exact palms when I passed through, but I did see some very large Dictyosperma's along the road in the area. What do you think?

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

DoomsDave Grand Master

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Kim!

THAT is a travelogue!

Love the palms, the people and the place, and your pictures of them!

More more more  . . . . .

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply.

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