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A couple days ago we took photos of some of our palms catching up on some last minute growing while the early fall weather is still warm. We started in the back yard facing south and overlooking the Isabelle Canal. We've been blessed by a lack of hurricanes and tropical storms compared the the past few years so what wasn't killed by the likes of Ian has had a chance to recover. Allagoptera caudescens Dictyosperma album Livistona jenkinsiana Livistona drudei Kerridoxa elegans Satakentia liukiuensis Chrysaladocarpus leptocheilos Philodendron Pink Princess Chamaedorea sp Moving west toward our Garden Lot View looking east toward Back Yard Jungle Cocos nucifera Dwarf Red Spicata Twins Sabal causiarium by @sonoranfans after Ian Sabal palmetto variegata Sabal grethereae Chrysaladocarpus decaryi Leucothrinax morrisii Sabal minor Chipola Dwarf Livistona muellerii Coccothrinax sp Borassus flabellifer Syagrus kellyana Pritchardia sp Livistona saribus Pritchardia vuylslekeana

More palms and plants from Garden Lot Livistona mariae Bismarackia nobilis, smaller of two surviving Bizzie's West End of Garden Lot looking South Livistona decora Livistona sp Areca catechu Dwarf; left is Pritchardia sp; right is Dictyosperma Albus Coccothrinax sp by Garden Shed Blue green Agave Sabal palmetto 'Lisa' #1 Sabal palmetto 'Lisa' #2 Sabal palmetto 'Mocksville' Hemithrinax ekmaniana Sabal minor x2: Left is typical S. minor; right was sold as seeds of what Seller in Savannah, GA, called 'Savanna Dwarf'. Is there such a thing? I don't know but it is certainly different. Seller disappeared into cyberspace about 15 years ago. Coccothrinax proctorii Dutchman's Pipe Coccothrinax sp - very large Chrysaladocarpus lutescens 'Fused Leaf' Plumeria w/ pink flowers

I didn’t know I could grow Cyrtostachys renda but I guess I can. 😀

A beautiful palm the onilihanses, majestic and always standing proud in the garden. A nice flower has formed and with any luck a few seeds will set, it has produced viable seeds in the past so a good bit of water and I might get lucky.

Saw this Crysalidocarpus onilahensis ‘weeping form’ at Floribunda a few months back. Stopped me, and everyone else, in our tracks. Tim

Spent yesterday planting a few LHI palms down here in the sub-subtropics: H belmoreana ×3, Hedyscepe x 4, Lepidorrachis x 8. A few H forsteriana to come later. Weather was perfect for planting, still, overcast, humid and mild - my only regret is that I'm a bit sore this morning!

There is a an undocumented population of Braheas located just 40 miles south of Douglas, Arizona near the town of Esqueda, Sonora. These palms seem to be a variation of the Brahea Calcarea but with a taller trunk and fuller crown. I would also like to mention that these specimens of Brahea are very likely to be more hardy than Brahea Armata considering they are growing in elevations of 4000 or more where winters are extremely more cold than that of the Brahea Armata range. They palms are located in a ranch named Rancho Los Baños - Tierra Chamahua EcoAdventures which appears to have recently closed and has virtually no public access. There are dozens of pictures of the palms in the TripAdvisor page of the ranch online. I thought yall would enjoy knowing of these groves as they might have the potential of being the MOST hardy Brahea of all the genus. Getting seeds from these plants would be amazing but the location is very remote and a known area of high cartel activity.

Sunrise on a pair of Chrysalidocarpus was captivating this morning. The Chrysalidocarpus onilahensis weepy form in the foreground and taller Chrysalidocarpus pembanus behind it.

Some new seed orders are arriving in the southern hemisphere. I expect good results. These results will have to be evident at the end of the world (Chile), where winters are very cold and apocalyptic. Even so, there are palm trees that can withstand and establish themselves very well.

Agreed. Nowhere near enough while the plant is in active growth, in winter no probs, but otherwise a couple of times a week. Also, I've found that unless a rainfall event is reasonably heavy or prolonged the effect on potted plants is minimal, ie it's remarkable how little water makes its way into the pot in light rain. Hopefully she can still recover.

This plant is about 23 years old .

Hot weather and no rainfall is the order for the garden at the moment. Daily irrigation has the garden looking good still.

These seeds are from a wild specimen near Weeki Wachee Springs. Me and my boys were fortunate enough to stumble across this palm during a hike back in 2018 and have harvested seed each year since. They're not as into it now as they were when they were little (I get it, extracurricular HS activities can have that effect), so I've decided to part with most of this years seed harvest. The variegated yields vary each season, but never dissapointing. Between palmtalk, word of mouth, social media, and ebay, hundreds of variegated offspring from this tree have been shipped out each year. FULL SUN IS A MUST and paitence is a big key too, some specimens show variegation as soon as the first leaf emerges from the dirt. Others are green as can be for the first two years, then one day you look and the newest leaf emerging with every leaf that follows is variegated...deep regret then sets in when you think about all the 'green' ones that were culled too early Cleaned, Float Tested, and Ready to Sow Minimum order of: 50/$45 or 100/$75 , 250/$150 , 500/$250 Shipping an additional $6 for USPS Ground Advantage (w/ Tracking) Venmo or PayPal accepted PM if interested

Here is the same Clinostigma 16 years later.

I spotted these Parajubeas near our hotel in The Presidio. Beautiful!! Mine in Dana Point is struggling. Enjoy IMG_8662.mov

Some other nice palms and tropicals Some of the Washingtonias looked like their petticoats had been burned. Their trunks were blackened. Not sure if that was an attempt to remove dead leaves the natural way or what.

I seem to be having success with the two I have planted. One was planted some time shortly before the summer of 2009 in my Carlsbad garden. As it grew I decided I needed one here in Leucadia, I had to remove a Caryota that had flowered here in Leucadia, so popped in a Clinostigma savoryanum here too. First photo is the 2009 Carlsbad. I don't get a lot of heat in either garden, but definitely more in Carlsbad than here in Leucadia. I did dig out a lot of clay and amend where I planted the one in Carlsbad, and have very fast draining sandy soil here in Leucadia. They seem to be tolerating both.

The much loved foxtail palm, more popular than an air conditioner in 40 degree Celsius heat. And they will take those temperatures well, along with quite cold weather not a snow blinding frost but down to 0 degrees Celsius. Dry tolerant and tough as nails. The only fault they have is seeds and more seeds by the wheelbarrow full, to the point they become a weed. But well worth growing, one Australian palm that has made it big abroad!

Ok, I was waiting to get a prescription filled and just wandering around town. The Senior Citizen Food Bank of all places....I stopped and hit reverse and went back. Asked if I could grab some seeds and got a nice little haul. Also wondering if y'all think any of these are transplantable because they're totally neglected and ignored. Also as far as germination goes, would a community pot with a baggie on a mat speed things up? Should I do the same with my Serena Repens seeds? Anyway, pics of some palms that I think are pretty even if nobody else cares about them here. And I picked that inflourence clean. There was only one other one and it was already dead and gone.

Like it says BWARE. This Washingtonia robusta is definitely living life on the edge. Anyone else want to share photos of lsms thriving on the edge?

Or you'll get eaten by these:

I have several planted on my south facing slope but they have adapted quite well . One that really shows the adaptability of palms most is my Brahea Edulis . The others just grew straight up . Harry ‘Not really “ on the edge “ but this is the only one that conformed like this , kind of cool .

As mine continues to grow, I have to say this is the closest match I see in the thread to what mine appears to be developing in traits. Not speedy, but you can see that this palm I acquired as Dypsis "Honkona" (which I assume would now translate to Chrysalidocarpus "Honkonus" - using the same female to male conversion as pembana - pembanus when it moved from Dypsis to Chrysalidocarpus. Leaves are getting much longer with each successive new leaf still. The adjacent fence is 6 1/2' tall for reference, so I feel safe saying the new leaf is about 8' tall overall and is still emerging.

There's a couple of points that I'd consider. Firstly, if they're volunteers then you probably don't want them to stay where they are, so there's nothing to lose. And secondly is you're reasonably careful, the law of averages will probably allow for some survivors. I've dug out more palms than I care to remember, including species that are allegedly difficult to transplant, like Parajubaeas (2 dead out of 20 dug), and Rhopalostylis, which had a slightly higher mortality rate, probably 20%. I'd go for it, but expect a few losses. Good luck!

... to germinate. I have tried previously at 28 C in the propagator and during summer in my cold frame to no avail. Around constant 35 C in the propagator seem to mak3 the difference! This sp must be the Hyphaena of southwest Asia or are those seeds from the southern most population in the Arabian peninsula and Baluchistan?

I use acephate, but only within my greenhouse, never outdoors. I buy it at a lower price than HD on Ebay. It is both a contact pesticide and a systemic. It won't kill pest egg capsules however, so I apply it three times at a weekly period. After this application my greenhouse will be pest free for months. CAUTION: I use extreme caution about protective clothing, rubber boots, rubber laboratory apron, rubber gloves above the elbows, and a half face respirator with screw on cartridges, rated for aerosols. @Foggy Paul Since your palm doesn't have flowers yet, there is no risk of secondary poisoning of birds or other beneficials. (the reason I never apply it to outdoor plants)

Alocasia over 30 years old

Ok it's been A DAY. I'll share Story Time in the Palms in Pots subforum, but for now here's a few pics from the yard. The Butia on the far side looks like it's gonna be a beast. Speaking of beasts, check out this grass. No, really, it's my hybrid still slowly pushing an entire new crown. I wish I knew how to speed it up, it's like it's constipated. While we're on the subject of beasts, look at these FAT fronds on this Sabal Maritima. It's a damn shame they'll have to come inside in the next few weeks. CIDP is growing and recovering from literally being mailed to me bare rooted with only a Ziploc baggie around the roots in the daintiest box I've ever seen and being held in Memphis for 5 days. I got nothing against this plant, I'm just not feeling it. I dunno that it fits my whole vibe. $5 butterfly bush is looking great. Aside from being much smaller, it looks way better than the other 3 in the yard. The other 3 are all unkempt beasts that just... Eh. The one washy has gotten too big for the cats to tear up. The other 2 are resilient though. They get knocked down, but they get up again. You're never gonna keep them down.

Desiccation due to under watering most likely. Watering only once in a two week period isn’t enough for a potted Windmill palm.

This colpothrinex and calyptrocalyx pulled my attention when walking the garden after work

I moved 6 A myolensis from my old property over 6 years ago. Sizes ranged from a little larger than yours to nearly trunking size. I had 100% success. Much easier than A cunninghamiana which doesn’t have much tolerance for disturbance. Now all are going really well and only the largest at the time had a set back but that was due to underwatering while in the pot after transplant waiting for its new home. It’s now the smallest of the 6. The one pictured was the second largest at the time and is now the largest.

Apart from the freak hail in winter a while back, my palms had survived well and I was preparing for a photo session to stick it to the nay sayers who said THAT won't survive your winter. Well apart from 2 and some in the aforementioned hail, my palms and other tropicals got through unscathed. Spring came right on time and left a week later. We went straight into mid summer, temperatures in the mid to high 30s daily. This should have been survivable but there was not a drop of rain for weeks and the humidity which would be killing me but great for the plants was non existant. Ferns and Aroids starting dying off rapidly, then the heat got to me and I was bedridden for 2 weeks. I did have someone come in to water but as the saying goes if you want something done, then do it yourself. When I was finally able to sit up without falling over side ways and ventured into the shade house, over half my young palms were dead. Things not just bought this year, but last year and the year before that had shrivelled up and died. Licualas, Calyptrocalyx, Linospadix, even some of the smaller Chamaedoreas are now dead and gone. Last sunday was the hottest October day on record for my suburb, a mere 41c culminating in a wild storm that flattened plants and even blew over large very heavy pots, followed by heavy hail ( hail usually falls for 5 minutes or so, this time it lasted 20 minutes) the size varying between Lychee and Egg sizes. Doing a rough estimate of the cost involved, in hindsight, I should have just saved all that money (the post office got nearly half of it anyhow...the bastards) went to Korea for a face lift and pair of tits, come back and married someone with buckets of money and been able to afford big palms and an irrigation system. Right now I have decided not to waste another cent on plants, attend the palm show in march next year and only buy ready to plant sized things. Rant over, now I am going back to curl up in the corner again. Peachy. PS one good thing......Tassie Troy sent me some Chatham Island Rhopalistylus seeds a while ago and I got 100% germination success. They are getting their second leaf already)

Dear Fellow Palm Enthusiasts, I enjoyed this three minute video, and I think you will also:

Needs to be in a larger pot or, better off, in the ground. Those closely spaced trunk rings are from not enough water. A healthy young specimen would look like the one pictured below. And mature, like the second photo.

@Hilo Jason Here’s my update. As previously mentioned, they seem to like heat so did well this summer. Definitely picked up speed. Really need to ground one of these. -dale IMG_5812.mov

@gyuseppe @Fusca What Tyrone is getting at is that this palm appears as red as C renda, not that it is C renda which doesn’t really look at all like this at this stage of growth. Tyrone - C baronii ‘Black Petiole’? It’s a beauty! I’ve got 5 in the garden and they vary in colour. Only 2 of mine approach this kind of colour.

Did you guys know that what gives US dollars their green color are the fronds of Chamaedorea pochutlensis? They are collected in Nayarit and sent to the border with California where the sap is mixed with other chemicals to make it a tint, this tint is expensive and it is also exported to other countries like Japan and Germany. Only this species is used for this because C. pochutlensis fronds remain fresh for more time when cut than other Chamaedorea species. https://elblogpuertanorte.blogspot.com/2009/06/con-jihuite-nayarita-dan-color-dolares.html?m=1 https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?vanity&set=a.853787421343728

Also Tim sometimes you get no pollen, for some reason or other I get a few of all my chamaedoreas not producing male pollen. And you can see in adscendens that they have been heavily cropped and tire of continual seed production. And need a rest with signs of not flowering and nutrient deficiency signs, not all of them it I learnt the signs of the genus, living so close to them and seeing them almost daily for 25 through observance I have learnt the certain characteristics of chamaedoreas in my garden, a great thing to learn studying the genus of chamaedoreas. There a wonderful genus of palms.

I have only had occasional scale problems . I use a mild dish soap and water with a paper towel . Remove the scale and spray with a vegetable pesticide . It usually requires multiple applications but it works . Harry

Here’s a pistillate flower.

Sabal row has now been converted to Sabal cluster. I’ve added a lot of silver saw palmettos in pots underneath to give it a very native look.

A nursery visit to see what they had in the way of palms, and nothing special but some nice kentia palm. This stock is pretty well much the standard palms grown in my area and it’s been this way ever since palms become popular as garden plants. Such a shame the buying public have such little choice for there garden, the only good thing is it wasnt a chain store and a nursery still surviving. There are so many beautiful cold tolerant palms out there yet they continue growing the same common ones. Supply and demand I guess!

Dypsis louvelli new leaf is worth a bit of attention. And in flower no seeds yet but Iam hopeful one day.

Polyandrococus caudescens new leaf.

Some more views of Garden Lot palms. Allagoptera brevicaulis Copernicia baileyana Butia odorata Allagoptera arenaria Copernicia gigas Sabal mauritiiformis Gaussia gomez-pompae Chamaerops humilis 'Vulcano' Attalea phalerata - The "smallest" of the Attaleas and the only one that survived Ian Sabal minor 'Emerald Isle Giant' Every garden needs a gazing ball

Yeah, I've made that mistake a few times, in autumn or early spring...think I'm a slow learner! Fingers crossed for the little Trachy.

Took a few pics of palms at the San Antonio Botanical Garden today. Washingtonias and group plantings of med fans and saw palmetto certainly dominate the palm scene, but there are plenty of sabals and a few other species as well. I still have the same question as my visit last year though. The garden has two palms labeled as Nannorrhops. One is clearly a mazari palm: Whole clump Branching stems with smooth petioles and leaves that have a slight costapalmate fold Long flower stalk held high and lots of tomentum The other palm looks more like a silver med fan, but it has some differences that tell me it is not a Nannorrhops or med fan. I think some of you have suggested it is a Brahea before, though I don't recall which species. Palm 2 with flat leaves, no branching stems, also completely smooth petioles, and a long flower stalk held low: Not to be outdone by these two silver palms, the silver saw palmetto looked great too:

Not sure if it was ever posted here, I couldn't find it anywhere, but there is an incredible 4-headed palm in Clearwater that's been lying down on the ground for many years, surviving and seemingly thriving. 2025: 2014: https://maps.app.goo.gl/aoPyszmm1JdNukfj9

Here is the same palm today in 2025. I like the thatched trunk. It is much more difficult to see the glossy adaxial leaf vs dull almost blue abaxial side that was so defined as a juvenile palm. Has anyone else noticed these changes with their Sabal mauritiiformis ?

We have a part time gardener come in 1x per week to help us keep up for $X per hour plus plants for his plant-loving wife I've discovered Pritchardias grow great here in SWFL. So do Livistonas but are tricky and prone to fall in cat 3+ hurricanes. Palm lovers should focus on tropical palmate palms and back off the crown shafted pinnate palms - yeah, I know that will never happen.