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The Encephalartos laurentianus flush is progressing better for this time of year than normal. The mild weather has allowed the flush to emerge without wind and rain damage. Sometimes the portion of the leaves above the adjacent 6' block wall succumb to wind shear, but not yet at least on this flush.9 points
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Most sabals are slow compared to the alternatives for most people. Washingtonia robusta or filifera are popular widely out west and are fast growers. Among many palms enthusiasts I think fan palms in general are not what they are looking for. Feather palms are more popular in general. There are many choices in california, and some members do have sabals and they look very happy so its not the weather. I think sabals are most popular in colder zones, 9B and lower. They do grow a bit faster than CA sabals but "sabal steve" has shown that S causiarum grows fast in california, he has a monster. If you go to a palm nursery in california you might see 100 species available and the vast number are pinnate palms. I'd say the choices there are vast and if you are unlimited by weather few will be sabals are hundreds of species are available and pinnate palms look more tropical in general. Sabal palmettos and some other sabals are slow in florida to so they plant them with 10' of trunk. I have grown my sabals(uresana, causiarum) from strap leaf seedlings. But in my yard they represent only 2/65 palms, a small percentage.8 points
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Bunch of stuff coming alive in the garden. I’ll post quite a few times here in the coming weeks/months. Love this time of year. Admittedly I don’t know the cross but I believe it’s Longifolius x Princeps. Could be Lehmannii x Princeps as it’s very blue. Who knows….its happy tho. Last year was a 2 Leafer, this year it’s 4. -dale8 points
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You’ll see them around in Southern California, though they’re a lot less prevalent than most other fan palms. i used to think that they were slow and that’s not entirely true - though slow is a relative term. They’re definitely sturdy, in Sam Diego, and worth the wait (in my opinion). Shoot me a DM if you’re having trouble finding any. Here’s a link to a thread which documents a lot of my experiences: Not the best picture, but here’s a S. Uresana and a S. Mexicana type, from the other day. I’d estimate that they are around 10years old, from a 5 gallon. They’ve been on their own, without any care, and are self sufficient where I’m at 10a (maybe even 10b). 92104 zip code. There’s also a S. Bermudana (maybe) and a S. Causarium further to the right, which can’t be seen. Those are also living on their own, with no help. These are growing with a lot of other palms in the 3500-3600 block of Wightman St, and there’s a Livistona Chinensis, Arenga Engleri, and a big Sabal Mauritiiformis two houses south, on Wilson Ave, if you were in the area.7 points
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It's Nannorrhops ritchiana, Mazari palm. Not native to Russia, but further south in Asia and the middle east, including Pakistan and Afghanistan. I know some cold hardy palm enthusiasts in the US grow them but they are certainly not common in cultivation. The only place where palms are grown in Russia is along the black sea coast, primarily in Sochi. They plant a lot of Trachycarpus there and probably some others. None are native to the region.7 points
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This just in from IPS President Andy Hurwitz! Help Celebrate 70 years of the International Palm Society7 points
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Lots of commonly planted palms in CA need extra water to survive. Syagrus, Archontophoenix, Howea, etc. They all need more water than most Sabal species. By the way, I have a humongous Sabal bermudana on my side yard.7 points
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I haven’t found them to be hugely different in growth rate to Howea forsteriana which is of course among the most common palms on the planet. I haven’t grown enough to know, but is their typical germination rate lower than H forsteriana? I feel like there must be something more to it. Aesthetic appeal of H forsteriana with drooping leaflets more attractive to your average non palm person? Looking back over photos, mine has been in the ground for 4.5 years now. It has grown from quite a small juvenile to a good sized plant in that time. These photos are a bit over 4 years apart.7 points
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You won’t really know until she flowers for sure, but she does look pregnant, never tell a lady she looks fat or ask are pregnant if she’s really not. So for now Jim just tell she looks good!7 points
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I have found archies to be very good for making multiples and I use a more dense planting than my other crownshafts. They love water so planting in multiples can make it easier to keep them moist. We have a dry spring here and they will get pale if I dont add consistent irrigation for them to look good. Other than that they are easy to keep happy in my yard. My archi8es are currently kind of tall(25-30') cant get em in a pic unobstructed so pictures are. I looked back to 2011 a year after I planted my alexandre triple and then a pic from 2019 where they grew in a bit. Here is the pic a little over a year after planting from 3 gallons, they were quite fast. Note the whitish undersi8des of the leaves in morning sun, hard to see the whitish undersides today as little sun hits them at 30' tall with everything grown in.. second pic 2019 shows how they grew in in 8 years(in 2019) since planting. today they are much larger of course, trunks are over 20' clear and bases are swollen to 17-18" thick.7 points
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They sprout easily. The hard part is living long enough to see some semblance of maturity on the babies.6 points
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I’m more concerned why Coccothrinax and Copernicia aren’t grown more here than “Sablah”. 🤣6 points
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I planted out this weddelliana yesterday. The soil in this part of the garden is heavier than the rest (takes about five minutes to drain 2" of water). The area gets consistent summer "rainfall" from fog dripping from the neighbor's Magnolia grandiflora overhead. It also gets almost no sun any time of year and as a result is continuously moist. I know this species is prone to root rot, so I cut off irrigation to the plant. It will be our only palm that isn't irrigated. What does everyone think of this strategy?6 points
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From the looks of that building, it’s WAY WAY older than the Queen palm that is about twenty years old. That building certainly wasn’t built in 2006 or later. I’ve seen many cases of palms “hugging” the walls they are right next to.6 points
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I have tried growing Vanda coerulea twice. The first one survived a couple of years and the second attempt was similar in duration. They don't seem to like my damp and cool winters. That is a lovely Vanda you have. I am happy that this third attempt with Epidendrum lacustre Panamanian variety is thriving still after 4 years. The flowers aren't especially large or colorful, but I love their structure.6 points
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I hate to tell you, but if you think you can transform the nursery industry, you might want to think again. I think what you're calling a "regular nursery" is a "plant retailer." Big Box stores have overtaken the industry and typically employ people with zero-to-scant knowledge of plants and sell rafts of product carefully coordinated with huge grower-corporations (think "Proven Winners" and the like) disseminated through marketing channels and trade-shows to develop a thirst for some new variety or cultivar in a seasonal blitzkrieg. Of course these big retailers will also carry a selection of bread-and-butter landscape palms: queens, kings, Washingtonia, Butia, Trachycarpus, et al depending on the dictated climate zone. They will likely special-order something if it's available from their regular list of suppliers, but the wholesale growers are also tuned in to what sells and grows quickly because they have to stay in business...and real estate, containers, soil and water are expensive when there's little hope for moving the plants out in good time. A production-to-market time of three years vs. seven years makes a huge difference in the profits of a grower, and as others have mentioned above, this is why you will find queens, kings and in particular Washingtonia over Sabal...they grow, and thus move, quickly. And Joe and Mary Homeowner are happy to see a nice fast-growing "palm tree" at their new tract home because they suffer from our modern-day need for instant gratification. In SoCal it's almost a miracle that we now see Bismarckia sold regularly in garden centers; with Ravenea heavily pushed for the houseplant market. Yes, Foxtails, Triangles, and a very few others are occasionally encountered, and it took many years for this latter group to gain any kind of foothold, which is really not even a foothold, they're still oddities to many but they grow at a decent speed and growers can probably make a bit of money on them in certain areas. Sabal is not likely to join even that outlier group, despite its hardiness and other positive qualities, because it is just not a fast-growing palm and has no customer familiarity. It's just an uphill battle for both the grower and the larger retail channel. While the rarer-and-rarer traditional nurseries will most likely order many plants from wholesalers, they are often growers themselves, they may go to great lengths to acquire propagation material of unusual species, nurse them, shift up to saleable sizes all by their own hand. They may buy bud-wood and graft fruit trees using a known rootstock for their area, etc. These are generally multi-generational, dedicated and knowledgeable nursery people whose horticultural and real-world experience in the landscape have gained them a major reputation and make for a completely different experience that appeals to serious gardeners who want to gain horticultural or botanical knowledge. Those nursery-people also gain a lot of satisfaction from interacting with customers and exchanging knowledge and experience. But they are realists, and if you get them into a conversation about something like Sabal, will likely say, "well, we don't get any call for them, so they're just not something we carry, and we can't even special order them without importing them from Florida, because they're just not profitable for growers here. You should go to a specialist palm nursery." And here we lead back to the community of specialty growers, including backyard growers, who offer a wonderful array of plants that was unthinkable even fifty or sixty years ago. It is thanks to these people who have poured their hearts and wallets into a risky business that we have them...so I think the best thing you can do is spread the word to others about the palms you champion and point people in the direction of these knowledgeable and dedicated nurserymen and women who have enriched our personal and, for many, professional lives with a variety of unusual plants that was unthinkable a few decades ago.5 points
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Imagine the Pseudophoenix Sargentii Navassana, which is slower. I've managed to germinate many.5 points
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With the introduction of the CRB I'm not buying any more palms. It's enough of a battle to keep the one's I have alive. As they die I think I'm gonna replace w/some native plant. Sad day on the West Side of O'ahu.5 points
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There’s some cones, there is some flushes but people often ask how do i propagate suckers/offsets or how do i pollinate a cone, how do i know when it’s ready etc….. today i removed a couple nice offsets from one of my female E. Dyerianus plants. A fairly easy process depending on plant location and soil. These happen to be in easy digging soil. I removed the excess dirt around the area of the offset. Today my tools consisted of a hammer and crowbar. Simply placed the crowbar between the offset and main stem and a couple love taps later we have a beautifully removed female dyerianus sucker. I treat these in a fungicide and add a rooting powder to the exposed areas on the offset. Place in perlite or pumice and give it a good water in. Sit back and wait for your roots to grow….5 points
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When I planted the two (another a few plants down the wall), I realized that it could be a temporary planting due to the ultimate size. I'm just enjoying them while I can. I still have a few inches between the footing of the wall and the edge of the plant, so still some room before they cause a problem. Speaking of big green cycads, my wife actually likes the Encephalartos laurentianus on the other side of the wall best. She isn't a fan of getting poked by my cycads, so that says a great deal. One of my favorite greens is starting to flush now. It will never be as giant as the Encephalartos ituriensis, but with time, it can get big.5 points
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Looks good @iDesign here’s an update on mine that was posted back in 2019 on this thread. I planted it in my “new” Garden in 2021. It’s now multi trunks, flowering and massive! Full Hawaiian sun, close to sea level. Maybe 100 ft elevation. Size 10 sandal for scale: here it is from the outside of my fence: And here’s what it looked like in 2019 after digging it up from my old garden. It stayed in this pot for 2 more years til being planted in 2021:5 points
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