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Had to run down to the Keys for a couple of days. Here’s some pics from the hotel. It is hot, bone dry, and sunny this time of year. Desert conditions. Didn’t have any time to run around looking for out of the way stuff, but the hotel did a really great job with the landscaping, so I thought I’d share….. It was a quick trip. Whoever put all this together really knew what they were doing. Great selections for the climate and conditions. Tourist Palmscaping to start…. In place of bottles and spindles for accents, they plugged in a lot of coccothrinax… Random Zombia antillarum… Some Latania for silver accents… Lots of Thrinax Radiata all over for some lower cover and shade… Leucothrinax morisii everywhere down here as accents… way better ones along the roads. These and Thrinax are in every yard, median and parking lot. Chrysalidocarpus Pembana clumps recurring as under tree accents… Typical Areca / Chrysalidocarpus Lutescens all over as screening palms…. Mostly looking ok for down here. Lots of these as screens… blanking on the name right now… that clumping one with the fragment fruit, I think, or maybe Arykury Palms/Syagrus schizophylla. Not sure, favor the first…. Some Vetechia sprinkled in… A Copernicia alba… A few Satakentia…. A random Atela… Lots of Serenoa repans, some stands 8-10 feet tall…. Lots of Allagoptera arenaria… Lots of Chamaerops humilis as accents… a common yard palm down here. Some Acoelrrhaphe wrightii screens…. Looking happy even in dry spots. This random huge palm was not too happy…. (Not sure, but it was a big young boy) Lots of cool understory and ground cover plants around too… all appropriate choices Missing was Pseudophoenix Sargentii and more Copernicia…. Many great Pseudophoenix along the roads and the way down. 300lb Goliath Grouper…. Always watching… always judging… Tarpon of course (off site)21 points
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ALl the taller palms have a hurricane haircut now from Milton(110mph gusts). Nothing too tall in my yard, a couple royals 40-45 feet tall estimate but there are some pretty thick trunks. Its tough to estimate height that tall. But the smooth trunks are 26-30 feet and crownshafts are 6 1/2 feet. That leaves leaves and spear extending past 31 feet(smaller one) and 36 feet(larger one). I estimate leaves/spear extend 10' + past top of crownshaft. The royal trunks are a bit more slim down low with some coke bottling up around 15-20 feet or so. First pic is the taller one which is more slim in trunk by 3" perhaps. The fence is 7' The smaller one is near a hose bib and got more water, a bit less sun. Down low its 27" thick next to the 30" wide chair(viewed straight on). It appears to bulge a bit, perhaps 3-4". Here is the bottom 20 feet of trunk with chair for scale. These are my tallest palms and the heaviest trunks(25' to 30' of trunk weighs several tons. They are not the thickest trunked palms down low. That would be sabal causiarum at about 42-44" bulge down low this is the thickest trunked palm down low. My favorite trunk is the concrete pillar looking trunk of copernicia fallaensis. It does not taper at 28-29" thick last time I measured the perimeter(2piR) with a tape last year. The causiarum tapers notably, fallaensis does not taper thus far. It is notably thicker than the causiarum at 10 feet above ground as the causiarum trunk tapers to 24" or so at that height. And last but not least is the fastest tapering palm, beccariophoenix alfredii, about 32" thick at the base but rapidly tapering. I also like the undulations on the clean trunk. I have never cut leaf bases off all these palms, they are naturally shedding. Alfredii trunk base And the overall of alfredii showing the rapid tapering of trunk. Alfredii seems to recover well from hurricane but it still has the comb over effect of asymetry. Funny alfredii looks like my best recovering palm right now but we haven't hit the wet season yet when everything grows a lot faster.. I learned a less from Milton, damage was more a function of height than species. The tallest were the most damaged.20 points
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Size is most definitely "relative". I just took this photo showing what I see when I walk past my most finished area of the yard. The Flamethrower (a palm I bought at a large size to get some "instant gratification") dominates the grouping... But if you step back a few feet (and look up) all of these palms are dwarfed by the two Caryota obtusa/gigas which are fully mature, and are the only palms remaining from the original landscaping. Caryota obtusa/gigas are already huge, but are EXTRA large when compared against a young garden...20 points
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Some recent additions to the garden. Thankful for another mild Central Florida winter. Happy Spring everyone Chrysalidocarpus Lanceolatus (Blended with a 3 yo Pembana clump) Chamaedorea Ernesti Augustii Pinanga Adagensis Sabal Mauritiformis Coccothrinax Macroglossa “Azul” Leucothrinax Morrissii Coccothrinax Crinita Copernicia Prunifera Pseudophoenix Sargentii14 points
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My tallest is probably a Caryota Urens but it is hard to tell from the ground . It is the only palm that outpaces the Syagrus Romanzoffiana’s . The largest by volume is the Butia Oderata on my hill, it has a very large trunk and has many large fronds ( not a palm for small gardens). The largest single frond is the Caryota Obtusa , the fronds are huge . Harry ‘Caryota Urens, with a partial view of the C. Obtusa . I’m not sure if the Washingtonia Robusta down my hill is taller , Caryota Obtusa single frond! ‘This was about a year ago , even larger now by just a bit. It is not a palm I would like to have near my house or in a small backyard. I am glad I put this one on the hill . They look manageable when they are young but grow to be quite large. ‘The Butia as seen from our deck. Harry13 points
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Would love to see pics of Southern CA and Northern CA Burretiokentia koghiensis and dumasii at any stage of development. Mine are in the ground two and a half years from tiny liner sized seedlings. First year was difficult since they were getting way too much straight sun but are growing fast after planting a 15 gallon Archontophoenix cunninghamiana nearby that shades them in the afternoon. Winter growth has been surprisingly fast. First two pictures are B. koghiensis and below them, the B. dumasii. Can’t wait to see summer growth.13 points
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They are painfully slow growing while in the seedling and pre-trunking stages even under optimal growing conditions. I planted this one as a small seedling thirty years ago. My soil is neutral and clay based. Irrigation water is very alkaline at about 8.2. It gets watered once per week in the summer. Potassium deficiency has occasionally been a problem but I feed it more often now and the problem has subsided. These are really tough, drought tolerant palms as well as tolerant to freezing temperatures though mine hasn’t experienced that in eighteen years.13 points
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What is or are your biggest palm(s)? This includes outdoors and indoors, overall height, crown width, trunk thickness, whatever. In my case one contendah’ is my large Roystonea oleracea, purchased as a fiver from Mardy Darian back around 2010. About forty five feet tall. I’ve got more, but show us some of yours!12 points
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By popular demand from @aztropic who sold me this palm. I present to you, the 2nd (that I know of) pure Chilean Wine palm in Florida. location: Deland, FL i have been following @Scott Ws Journey of growing his Jubaea and decided I wanted to try as well. Since I am only a hour south of his Jubaea in Jacksonville, fl. I also have a nice microclimate from a pond in my backyard that might help the humidity issue with airflow. My phoenix Canariensis is loving it so far. I originally was not going to post out of fear of failure but decided why not.12 points
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Gray skies this time of year are a sign of our coastal air conditioning system. It keeps the temperatures a comfortable constant night and day, when temperatures a few miles east begin to soar. Consequently, I appreciate seeing this color sky in Spring. So here are some palms against a gray or grey sky, depending on where you are.12 points
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A beautiful specimen in the garden I always admire. Such a lovely new coloured leaf almost like a miniature kentia you can definitely see the link there somewhere. I have been given a stack of seeds both the single trunk and the clumping form and as usual, my palm decides to bear seeds saying what about me those seeds you got given are no good when you have me look I can produce seeds it’s always the way.11 points
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I was in Carlsbad for work today and I haven’t been here for 10 years probably and the last time was to go see the caverns and watch the bats fly. I didn’t pay attention to the palms then but I was blown away by the amount of large filifera growing here. There were some large chamaerops. I also saw a few windmills, but I didn’t see any sabals surprisingly. A lot in these pictures took some good winter damage but were green and growing out. Carlsbad is 7a/7b and after looking at their temperatures it gets to 0-5 F at least once every winter and yet these endure. Maybe it’s the 3500’ elevation sun and dry winters? I don’t know but I was impressed and thought I should share with palm lovers. The pics I took are only just a few. They are all over town!11 points
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Thought I’d bring back this thread with a photo of my baby “Mad Fox”… kindly sold to me a while ago by @Matt in OC. I realize it’s a long shot, but it sure looked healthy when I was checking on my seedling collection… Took it out for a photo shoot to celebrate it making it through the winter… Wish me luck!11 points
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Harry, R. baueri and R. cheesemanii used to be separate species. However, the only difference is that cheesemanii has a spherical seed, while baueri has an ellipsoid seed, so cheesemanii was subsumed back within R. baueri. R. baueri var. baueri from Norfolk Island, and R. baueri var. cheesemanii from the Kermadec Islands. Here is an image of my cheesemanii.11 points