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realarch

These are by far the slowest growing palms in my garden. Waiting for them to 'leap' after planting almost 2 years ago. Semi-shade with good drainage and

plenty of moisture. They look pretty good and were planted as 1 gal., but still are pretty small. I did a search and ran across posts awhile back with seedling problems, wondering how those are doing.

'Grasshopper' is getting impatient. Anyone else experiencing the same thing?

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Jeff in St Pete

Tim, I only have one M. insignis (about half the size of yours) and it's one of the slowest palms in my collection. I hope this is one of those palms that speeds up a little when it gets larger.

Here it is after it was recently repotted

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PalmatierMeg

Here is my M. insignis in a 3g pot. I keep it undershadecloth on the back lanai.

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Mandrew968

Anyone know about/have experiences with this palm(good or bad) in South Florida? I would like to try one, but I would also like to know more about it...

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Manolitus

Anyone know about/have experiences with this palm(good or bad) in South Florida? I would like to try one, but I would also like to know more about it...

Andrew,

I actually have one small one in the ground which gets a little morning sun and is actually doing pretty well. Its way too early to tell though.

Manny

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Moose

Anyone know about/have experiences with this palm(good or bad) in South Florida? I would like to try one, but I would also like to know more about it...

Andrew,

I actually have one small one in the ground which gets a little morning sun and is actually doing pretty well. Its way too early to tell though.

Manny

Andrew - I would suggest kkeping this palm in a container on a shaded patio.Keep stepping it up over the years and then plant it when it out grows the patio situation.

Just my opinion. :unsure:

Tim - your palm looks happy. It will grow. :D

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Pedro 65

Glad I found this thread, wow my Marojejya sp has never looked like a split leaf darianii... Marojejya must be "Very variable" :) I look fwd to more pics of everyones Insignis. Pete :)

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Gbarce

I am down to my last 2 Marojejya Insignis seedlings. I keep them in the shade house in large pots but one by one they eventually turn yellowish then develop brown tips on the leaves and then slowly die.

What's happening ?

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Pedro 65
I am down to my last 2 Marojejya Insignis seedlings. I keep them in the shade house in large pots but one by one they eventually turn yellowish then develop brown tips on the leaves and then slowly die.

What's happening ?

Gene, did or do yours look like my above post..but much smaller of course...or..like Tim, Jeffs an Megs? I really think all the Insignis I have seen in Oz that look like Tim, Jeffs and Megs are actually Darianii ?? especially if mine is an Insignis ( variant ) :) Pete

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realarch

You know Pete, I was looking at one of my smaller M. darianii and then looked at my( acquired as) M. insignis and thought, hell, I can't even tell the difference between the two. In fact my smaller

M.darianii looks more pinnate than the one I acquired as M. insignis. The later is slow, much more so than the two M. darianii I have in the ground.

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Pedro 65
You know Pete, I was looking at one of my smaller M. darianii and then looked at my( acquired as) M. insignis and thought, hell, I can't even tell the difference between the two. In fact my smaller

M.darianii looks more pinnate than the one I acquired as M. insignis. The later is slow, much more so than the two M. darianii I have in the ground.

Interesting eh, i thought they where very similar till mine was reputed as Insignis ( well variant insignis)

Tim, even when I see darianii and insignis side by side for sale in Oz they "look the same'

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DoomsDave

Oh, death. M. insignis.

Just death, but good to see life in other places.

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fan palm

i have three all purchaced as darianii. one which is really slow and still has entire leaves is looking like being insignis. the other two are different again, one getting very elongate petioles and irregular leaflets???

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Pedro 65
i have three all purchaced as darianii. one which is really slow and still has entire leaves is looking like being insignis. the other two are different again, one getting very elongate petioles and irregular leaflets???

got any pictures ?? do any resemble my post 7 ?

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Dr. George

Well, for comparison, here are 2 M. darianii from the garden

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A little more mature M. darianii from the JD Andersen garden (HI):

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and a 20+ year old M. darianii at the Hilo zoo.

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gmp

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realarch

Dr. George, what's that black snake like thing around the base of your palms? :mrlooney:

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Dr. George
Dr. George, what's that black snake like thing around the base of your palms? :mrlooney:

The thing that keeps 'em alive through a drought like the one we're still having on the West side. Kim is already tempting me to cross over to the other side, don't you start too. :D gmp

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fan palm

here are a couple of crappy pics from my phone. the first is what i think is insignis:

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these are the other two:

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Pedro 65

th

here are a couple of crappy pics from my phone. the first is what i think is insignis:

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these are the other two:

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Harry, the bottom 2 are insignis, top darianii..Mine "never" looked like yr long petiole insignis even at the same size..Daishy reckons mine" isnt an insignis" and feels strong for a Lemur..now I should add that Jeff saw some crappy pics of mine and I blahhed on about Claytons Marojejya ..Jeff was having a "very busy day' and no doubt the quickest way out was for him to say 'yes Pete i agree, just so he could ' get back to his day' Apologies Jeff.. . :) Pete

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Cindy Adair

I know I've posted these same photos before, but they are all I have. Hover for names.

Come April I'll have some new photos finally, assuming they are still alive.

They are from Jeff Marcus several years ago, but are doing fine growth wise for my expectations. They

were tiny when I planted them and then they have to take care of themselves in the jungle.

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Gbarce

mine are still small and they look just like the palm in the first photo in post #18 (fan palm)

I always suspected they looked like M. Darianii but I always assumed that they would eventually develope more splits on the leaves.

In any case what do I do to prevent them from yellowing and developing these brown tips?

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Gbarce

THis is one of the two I have left. I am no longer sure if it is M. Insignis or darianii

In any case, like the others that have perished before it-- it is now turning an anemic yellow and the leaf edges are also turning brown.

These eventually turn all brown like they were dehydrated.

How do I solve this?

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Gbarce

THis is my smallest one that so far is OK but I do think it is starting to get yellowish too. I don't give these any fertilizers--Is there something I should add to the soil?

Those leaves are about a foot long-- just to give you an idea.

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Pedro 65

Make sure your pots are fast free draining Gene.. Nutricote total and a little dolomite would help immensely too. :) Pete

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olivier971

M. insignis at the "Parc de Tsimbazaza" - Antananarivo :

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Pedro 65
M. insignis at the "Parc de Tsimbazaza" - Antananarivo :

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Great pics of a Very Grand Looking Palm Oliver, For me, Insignis has more "Charisma" than darianii... thanks again. Pete :)

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JasonD

I am surprised to see Marojejya at Antananarivo. How cold does it get there?

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User00
On Sun Jan 13 2013 15:05:20 GMT+0530 (Sri Lanka Standard, fan palm said:

here are a couple of crappy pics from my phone. the first is what i think is insignis:

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these are the other two:

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any updates 

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caixeta

I won a seedling from a friend, can confirm is Marojejya insignis. See detail spotted petiole.574f1a9b2d40f_Marojejyainsignis003.thumb574f1ad76784c_Marojejyainsignis001.thumb574f1af90fe78_Marojejyainsignis002.thumb

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realarch

I would say yes, M. insignis. The length of the petiole would be the clue, M. darianii has none. 

In fact my two that I acquired as M. insignis have turned out to be M. darianii. 

Tim

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caixeta
42 minutes ago, realarch said:

Eu diria que sim, M. insignis. O comprimento do pecíolo seria a pista, M. darianii não tem nenhum. 

Na verdade a minha dois que eu adquiri como M. insignis têm acabou por ser M. darianii. 

Tim

Thanks.

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Daryl
8 hours ago, caixeta said:

I won a seedling from a friend, can confirm is Marojejya insignis. See detail spotted petiole.574f1a9b2d40f_Marojejyainsignis003.thumb574f1ad76784c_Marojejyainsignis001.thumb574f1af90fe78_Marojejyainsignis002.thumb

This looks a lot like Masaola madagascariensis

 

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Pedro 65
1 minute ago, Daryl said:

This looks a lot like Masaola madagascariensis

 

Yes , very well spotted Daryl, I 100% agree.

Pete  :)

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BS Man about Palms

You know whats weird is I have a Masoala again in a 1 gal (Voles killed my big 5 gal.. :angry: ) and the colors and speckling match, but the petiole base looks way too thin.. Its almost like a cross between the two...

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Pedro 65

Bill, Daryl nailed it, Mauricio, consider yourself a lucky dude, thats a fantastic size Masoala mad, the largest 5 leaves/fronds look well over 1 ft , plant it out in full sun "now" where it always moist.

Thanks to Clayton he sold me 2 he had left, the 1 with continual moisture is "rooting downwards" really well, its only a quart the size of yours Mauricio ( caixeta} 

Pete  :)

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BS Man about Palms

Maybe different growing conditions, but here is a link to some pics of my old larger one. Maybe its a deceptive pic in that those leaves may only be 6-8".. what do I know, I'm up past my bedtime...lol

http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/22345-fun-finds-at-sfillss-phils/

 

But a wise man will not take an opposing view to Pete and Daryl as their track record is phenomenal.. :interesting: :winkie:

 

PS- I always noticed the Ravenea krociana had similar mottling and colors too.

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caixeta
9 hours ago, Daryl said:

This looks a lot like Masaola madagascariensis

 

Thank you very much Daryl.  Caixeta

 

 

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DoomsDave
On 6/1/2016, 12:23:40, realarch said:

I would say yes, M. insignis. The length of the petiole would be the clue, M. darianii has none. 

In fact my two that I acquired as M. insignis have turned out to be M. darianii. 

Tim

How about some pictures?

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realarch

Oh Daryl, yo da man! I do vaguely remember now when my Masoala mad. was small that it had similar markings, but the leaves and sheathes were tightly

bunched kind of like Voanioala. I did take some photos when it was younger, just need to find them. 

Caixeta, lucky you. Not a common palm at all. 

Tim

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